NYE Party At Think Loud Entertainment, "mingle with [CCP] and ask them all of these important q..." Options

[vivapokey]

Do we need to spawn another forum to complain about the turn being removed again?

So back on topic - anyone have any questions they asked?

Yeah "why ignore The Turn? Was Ed not comfortable with an album by CCP full of songs about what a backstabbing prick he was? What does CCP think of Parasite?"

I mean, those are questions you could have asked...

[dangum]

Out of all 17 pages of this thread so far, maybe 1 page of it is actually related to the NYE party.

This.

From this post forward, please only discuss the NYE concert and none of the other topics which have been discussed endlessly in other threads. If you really want to talk about Ed vs Chris, 90's Ed vs 2010 Ed, Is The Turn a real Live album? then start your own thread or find one of the many existing threads.

[World Dreamer]

This.

From this post forward, please only discuss the NYE concert and none of the other topics which have been discussed endlessly in other threads. If you really want to talk about Ed vs Chris, 90's Ed vs 2010 Ed, Is The Turn a real Live album? then start your own thread or find one of the many existing threads.

dangums job was so much easier a week ago!

[Possum Kingdom]

dangums job was so much easier a week ago!

Not sure if it's good or bad that I didn't even notice there was another guitarist? I turned it off after about 5 songs. Can he sing backup? Live really misses Adam, because he helped out quite a bit on vocals. CT can still help with I Alone, but that's about it. When playing songs from The Turn they had to use a lot of backing tracks.

If you would've told Live that around 3000 fans would tune in for their NYE performance do you think they would be like that's awesome or holy shit...that's it? Busy night for a lot of people and dealing with different time zones and countries so there were a lot of factors.

[FishOutaWater]

While I understand the desire to restrict the never-ending arguments about 90's Ed verses 2000's Ed and Ed verses Shinn to a single thread so that it doesn't pervade every discussion on this board, objectively speaking, I think it really is relevant to this thread and will probably be relevant to many reviews of Live's performances. This was Live's first performance with Ed after 7 years, and after having Chris Shinn as the lead singer and putting out The Turn which is more rocking than anything Live has done with Ed since Secret Samadhi. Live is telling us they are getting it all back together again like it used to be in the 90's. I think it is fair game to evaluate this performance, and evaluate Ed, as arm-chair fan critics, by weighing in on whether Ed still has the same vocal qualities and stage performance as he did int he 90's (the era they are trying to re-claim). That was a direct question from the interviewer on the MMR interview this morning. I have also seen comments in this thread regarding Chad Taylor and Chad Gracey in the same vein. And the reality is that Ed replaced Chris Shinn as the lead singer of Live. Live had 90's Ed, then 2000's Ed, then Chris Shinn, then 2000's Ed 2.0. We've all lived through all of that. Like it or not, that is going to come with comparisons and evaluations and, regrettably, arguments. Particularly because many Live fans (including the casual fans) will only decide to go along for the ride if Live with Ed brings to the stage and to the recordings the kind of mojo that they had in the 90's. So it's fair to evaluate how they are doing with that. This is a message board. Isn't the entire medium built for opinions, debate and arguments? Perhaps, at a minimum, we could try to limit the opinions, debate and arguments to new points and novel observations instead of rehashing the same things over and over again into their second decade.

By the way. I see Live as being at a critical juncture right now. They get one chance to get this right. Since TDTH, they have been on one long slide down the ranks of obscurity. Apart from the single Heaven, they dropped in quality and relevance with each step of the way, from V to BoP, to SFBM, to The Turn with a different lead singer. Now they have an opportunity with this renion after 7 years to turn it around. They can pump this up with a lot of PR, but at the end of the day, they need to make their stage performances in front of audiences and their new music return to the quality of 1995. If they can do that, they will be a band again for a long time, and they will have an ample active fan base to sustain them. If not, then they will be left with about 5 people on this message board and a passive list of followers on Facebook, and that Live logo might as well be a grave marker.

This post has been edited by FishOutaWater: Jan 3 2017, 10:51 am

[FishOutaWater]

Back on topic for me - Also, unless I missed it, did they make a big deal out fo the fact that 12/31 was the 25th anniversary of Mental Jewelry? I didn't notice it if they did. I wish they had emphasized and celebrated that more. And it would have been a nice gesture to the hardcore fans in attendance on New Years Eve and those who sat in front of a computer screen as the clock ticked 12:00 so they could watch Live perform online, if they had broken out at least one deep cut from Mental Jewelry as a gift to the fans and to celebrate that album. They have been playing Operation Spirit, Peace is Now and Beauty of Gray every night for 20 years. I would have loved it if they had done their homework and rehearsed something like Peace Is Now or Mother Earth is a Vicious Crowd for the fans. That captures the essence of Live and is so poignant for the times. That has never been Live's thing, but I think it needs to become a bigger part of their show preparation. I've seen a bunch of old time bands who break out deep cuts they haven't played in years and that gratifies their fans. This show wasn't for the casual festival attendee who wants to hear the hits. I really hate to sound like I am unappreciative, because they did host a show for fans and share it in a free stream, but truth be told, I actually expected something a little more special in the set list.

This post has been edited by FishOutaWater: Jan 3 2017, 1:23 pm

[jayda]

I've started to watch the NYE show. About 47mins into the video. I could have told you all 20 seconds in that Ed had a cold.

So far, he is doing ok re the performing (apart from the cold which is clearly affecting his voice so will reserve judgement).

I can't get over how umm, more 'mature' he looks. Not in a bad way at all, but he looks different. I haven't really seen a pic of him for 2 or 3 years now. Apart from a little bit of that video with him in it in the radio studio recently.

To be honest, I've been doing other things whilst it was playing. It bored me to sit there watching it. Maybe I've lost it as far as LIVE are concerned. Makes me sad to think that.

Why did it take them so long to get on stage after Hinesy introduced them?

Another thing, they need a new MC.

[Live4Life]

Another thing, they need a new MC.

For sure!

[Fool_By_The_River]

Whitediscussion on youtube just uploaded an HD version of the whole show from a different perspective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oj47s_ICxk&t=0s

This post has been edited by Fool_By_The_River: Jan 3 2017, 7:39 pm

[Voodoo Lady]

I can't get over how umm, more 'mature' he looks. Not in a bad way at all, but he looks different. I haven't really seen a pic of him for 2 or 3 years now. Apart from a little bit of that video with him in it in the radio studio recently.

It was the opposite with me with Gracey and Pat. Since I hadn't really paid attention to them much in the past couple of years, they looked a lot more mature, esp. CG. I did notice Ed is getting those, what do you call them, liver spots, on his face. Sucks when your rock idols start showing their age.

[The Thrill]

I've started to watch the NYE show. About 47mins into the video. I could have told you all 20 seconds in that Ed had a cold.

So far, he is doing ok re the performing (apart from the cold which is clearly affecting his voice so will reserve judgement).

I can't get over how umm, more 'mature' he looks. Not in a bad way at all, but he looks different. I haven't really seen a pic of him for 2 or 3 years now. Apart from a little bit of that video with him in it in the radio studio recently.

To be honest, I've been doing other things whilst it was playing. It bored me to sit there watching it. Maybe I've lost it as far as LIVE are concerned. Makes me sad to think that.

Why did it take them so long to get on stage after Hinesy introduced them?

Another thing, they need a new MC.

Two things. Ed was very sick the whole week. But the show must go on.
And lastly. I don't think "hinsey introduced anyone". Did you hear an introduction. I didn't. What I heard was someone thanking someone. That's what I heard, but certainly NOBODY introduced the band. That's a fact.

[The Thrill]

For sure!

Diane, I see your still the same a-hole.

[Existentialist]

Two things. Ed was very sick the whole week. But the show must go on.
And lastly. I don't think "hinsey introduced anyone". Did you hear an introduction. I didn't. What I heard was someone thanking someone. That's what I heard, but certainly NOBODY introduced the band. That's a fact.

[jayda]

Two things. Ed was very sick the whole week. But the show must go on.
And lastly. I don't think "hinsey introduced anyone". Did you hear an introduction. I didn't. What I heard was someone thanking someone. That's what I heard, but certainly NOBODY introduced the band. That's a fact.

Yeah, well, it was obvious he wasn't well.

To tell you the truth Hinsey, I didn't listen to you beyond the first sentence so I assumed you were introducing them when you were talking, checking your phone (I hope it was where you had your speech written and you weren't on social media ) and walking back and forth.

This post has been edited by jayda: Jan 4 2017, 1:34 am

[Bremang]

When it comes to Live, it is in Bill Hynes' best interest to disappear way way way into the background.