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[Merica]

One thing I don't get is why people get so annoyed at others using phones at gigs. How does that impact your enjoyment? If it does, that's your problem, not theirs. The only time it matters is if the phone is physically blocking your view. Otherwise, let people experience it how they want. If I ever take my phone out I'll barely even look at the screen. Check to make sure it's in frame but then hold it still and adjust my eyeline so I'm watching the band on stage, not through the phone. Then I have my own little snippet recordings to watch later as a reminder. Fun fact too, even if your recording is sub-par (and even if it's being recorded professionally too) most people will still favour their own work because they feel more attached to it. It's from their personal point of view of the gig. It's why you see so many shit quality recordings on YouTube. I agree, they mean dick all to anyone else, but yeah. Stress less about that shit and worry more about the band stinking it up on stage.

This is all fair, although I must admit I laughed out loud watching the stream when they showed a mid-wide shot of Ed and there's a ridiculous amount of phones pointed at him.

[Wambangalang]

I've never liked watching back performance videos of the concerts I've seen live, they always lack so much of the intensity of the real moment and completely differ from my memory. Perfect example was the Perth '04 show Dan posted recently. I was there that night and the video obviously pales so much in comparison to how I remember it. Anyway you just had to be there is my point

[Costakoui]

Mate, its not even always about comparing. Ed is just shit. If he was good, I wouldn't care if he was compared to a previous version of himself, the point is, in and of itself, he's not good. Or at least I believe so.
And if people believe so, why should that bother you?
Stop being "negative keyboard warriors" is such a bullshit comment. "Stop having an opinion different to mine" is what you're saying. I could easily say "stop being positive keyboard warriors" and go on about how you'll gobble up any old crap Ed shits out .. it works both ways. So, stop trying to think you're making a "point" here.

The fact you know yourself there is a difference is reason for some people to compare if they want. You're comparing, its just that you're giving Ed a favourable outcome in the comparison. Somehow people who don't give him a favourable outcome have an invalid opinion? Fuck that.

So you think Ed is no good but you keep posting here. Why? One could say that you doing it in order to criticise Ed and Live for the sake of it.

[Merica]

Well for one thing Ed isn't Live all by himself. If anything The Turn showed that you don't even need Ed to make a quality Live album.

[vivapokey]

So you think Ed is no good but you keep posting here. Why? One could say that you doing it in order to criticise Ed and Live for the sake of it.

Don't you worry your pretty little head about it, I won't be here for too long I suspect. Said it before I'm giving the new music a chance. If its absolute trash then I'll be gone. I'm extremely skeptical about it, but I've come this far so hey, who knows, maybe there will be a good song or two in there. CCP proved with The Turn and TGF that they are capable of making good music, so there is some hope there that maybe if Ed can be manipulated enough in studio then something cool might come out. Admittedly its a small chance but hey, what can I say, I'm an optimist.

This post has been edited by vivapokey: Jan 2 2017, 7:00 am

[Costakoui]

Don't you worry your pretty little head about it, I won't be here for too long I suspect. Said it before I'm giving the new music a chance. If its absolute trash then I'll be gone. I'm extremely skeptical about it, but I've come this far so hey, who knows, maybe there will be a good song or two in there. CCP proved with The Turn and TGF that they are capable of making good music, so there is some hope there that maybe if Ed can be manipulated enough in studio then something cool might come out. Admittedly its a small chance but hey, what can I say, I'm an optimist.

Good plan! I am not on a different side but I am perhaps too optimist. If the new music sounds like the 2000s era then i will be gone too. If it is on par with Like I Do and Lighthouse then i will be happy, though given some outstanding songs off The Turn they can do even better than those two songs.

[Costakoui]

Well for one thing Ed isn't Live all by himself. If anything The Turn showed that you don't even need Ed to make a quality Live album.

Agree! However, it does not mean that the presence of Ed equals bad music. Also, not all songs off The Turn were good. To me, there were at least 3 songs that were from mediocre to bad. This indicates to me that CCP can write weak songs too, it is not only Ed.

[alexou]

Observations after 2 listens:

1. Introduction by The Thrill... again no mention or thanks to Chris Shinn. It wasn't much to do, just a little mention. I really start to believe that his departure was not a friendly one.

2- this show compensates the cheesy announcement. Cool gesture to use their new year's eve to offer a show like that to the fans. Doing that they control their message. They made an announcement and played a concert without answering any interview. They will want to avoid all these in the future.

3- Ed is feally trying. Less falsetto, more raw singing, well at least trying. Some songs were hard to listen to (operation spirit, dolphins cry), others were good (wd, selling the drama).

4. Musically, the addition of Zack Loy could be good, but not in all situations. There was a big mistake in The beauty of gray and Lakini's Juice doesn't need 2 guitars in the main riff. Listen to the SNL performance to understand why.

5. Glad CT looks healthier, thinner

6. CG was a beast during that set. Fun to hear and watch. PD was only doing the motions compared to how he was during Shinn's era. Considering he made some cruel comments toward Ed at some point, there is maybe something there.

7. I need way more to be convinced. They should have played an obscure song because of course, the long time fans were there or watched that show. Missed opportunity. They are a bit too safe. That is the way they want to play it clearly, sadly.

[Voodoo Lady]

PD was only doing the motions compared to how he was during Shinn's era. Considering he made some cruel comments toward Ed at some point, there is maybe something there.

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that.
I really, really hope it's not due to lingering conflict.

[dangum]

Here is a download of the Zoe LaBelle set. It's a direct rip from the Yrk Creative Facebook site. I have trimmed the beginning and end so that there's only the performance.

Hopefully somebody in York recorded a higher quality version of the show as I understand it was broadcast on local cable tv.

Anyway, until something better comes along here's Zoe's set.
https://www.mediafire.com/?6tsdc1aktwp500z

I would recommend using VLC to play this file. For some reason when playing it with the default Windows 10 Films & TV app, the audio is out of sync.

[Merica]

Agree! However, it does not mean that the presence of Ed equals bad music. Also, not all songs off The Turn were good. To me, there were at least 3 songs that were from mediocre to bad. This indicates to me that CCP can write weak songs too, it is not only Ed.

Dunno man, you ever listened to Parasite? If that's the kind of level Ed's bringing to the table then the next album will be fucking horrendous.

We'll have to agree to disagree on The Turn. For me there isn't one bad song on the album.

[mfitz804]

Well for one thing Ed isn't Live all by himself. If anything The Turn showed that you don't even need Ed to make a quality Live album.

Fixed it. Putting a Live label on it didn't make it Live, for me.

This post has been edited by mfitz804: Jan 2 2017, 3:55 pm

[throwing_cheetahs]

Some audience videos have been uploaded to YouTube by [WAPSoltis]

Lakini's Juice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az6_P6Z0fOY

Selling the Drama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFOGFRuafQg

The Dolphin's Cry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEScVFZG_Sk

Lightning Crashes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1y7zd6Gpjs

Operation Spirit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61_-Ubt0jGI

All Over You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcjicp3Lznw

White, Discussion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjEygP1PKto

I Alone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR1LpW-ASII

Pain Lies on the Riverside
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuUDTERRNb0

These sound way better than the live stream, good find.

[Costakoui]

Dunno man, you ever listened to Parasite? If that's the kind of level Ed's bringing to the table then the next album will be fucking horrendous.

We'll have to agree to disagree on The Turn. For me there isn't one bad song on the album.

There is nothing objective here. Somebody in this forum, I think swami, said that music is about emotions and is absolutely right. Overall The Turn is very good but some songs do either little or nothing to me. Based on the emotions i feel during listening to it, By design, TWAIT and Till you came around are mediocre, while Natural Born Killers is one of the worst songs ever created by Live from all eras.

[World Dreamer]

Sounds like Ed replaced the falsetto with the Christina Aguilera vocal growl.