NYE Party At Think Loud Entertainment, "mingle with [CCP] and ask them all of these important q..." Options

[WaiterAtCliftons]

As someone who was there last night and who also watched the stream today...I can tell you the stream did not capture the energy or the sound of the show. Yes Ed's voice did crack a few times, but that did not take away from the shear energy that the guys had, especially CT and Ed. Having them literally right in front of my face for LJ and WD was incredibly intense. The throwing of Ruby Lou at the end of the night was the cherry to top off such an energized performance.

And seriously it was their first performance in front of a crowd in years...It wasn't perfect, but rock and roll is never perfect and that is what makes it great. It was raw and emotional and full of energy. That's all I could have asked for out of it.

[draynoe]

So, I haven't seen anything in the thread related to questions everyone asked the band... Has anyone seen a thread like that or Facebook posts?

I'm curious to see what questions were asked and answered!

[feverpusher]

Without a doubt (and not being at the live performance), I'm going to say that live in-house mixes (in general) tend to sound way better than mixed down board performances. But, it can also depend on where you are standing in the venue, as the PA can play tricks on you. Especially, if streamed. So Im not really too bummed about what I heard online. Was confusing, but OK.

When I hear statements about them potentially being nervous, and they haven't played on stage for 'x' amount of years, I kinda frown on this. First, CCP have played as Live, with Shinn...up to not very long ago. So, they should be well adjusted and confident that they can still play and indeed remember how to play the songs. The only variable is not having played with Ed, for years. With that said, I think they were good, but could have been better. I'll chalk it up to time and effort to which will hopefully present a better picture of where they are going, and their overall efforts. One of the bigger problems they previously had (in the past) was sticking to old and predictable set lists. They also didn't practice.

I think Ed really gave an honest effort, and it was refreshing to see and hear them play again. I enjoy Ed and have enough faith to give him another shot. I'm hopeful that they can all maintain, but also cannot expect them to be the same 90's band, as they once were. Perhaps they can produce a 'newer' form of energy??? Not sure, but I think they have a ways to go. For their next venture, I think they need to dig deep, not rush and find some magic. Rushing music has been their downfall in the past, which would hurt them now. Anyway, I'm just rambling.

I liked the set and agree on how things progressively picked up. I know that people are going to hate this comment, but I think the guys have been showing/playing it safe in their performances. I'm a bit disappointed in CG and CT in particular, and yes I know they are not in their teens and twenties anymore, but damn! I'm just not finding certain songs as spicy and memorable anymore for some reason. They are playing decent, but I'm not hearing a certain flare anymore. Anyway, thanks for reading everyone! Just needed to vent.

Cheers to you for the New Year!

[Voodoo Lady]

I liked the set and agree on how things progressively picked up. I know that people are going to hate this comment, but I think the guys have been showing/playing it safe in their performances. I'm a bit disappointed in CG and CT in particular, and yes I know they are not in their teens and twenties anymore, but damn! I'm just not finding certain songs as spicy and memorable anymore for some reason. They are playing decent, but I'm not hearing a certain flare

Don't hate this comment at all. You bring up a good point. You say "hear a flare," but I want to see some flare! The earlier comments here about how this guitar needed to be turned up & that one down... I honestly don't notice that. I pay attention more to their stage presence. When I was watching the stream, I thought CT was getting into it after about the third song (as someone earlier mentioned also) and then he was fine. Ed did great. I -was- hoping they would all interact more. I think I saw Ed put his arm on CT's shoulder once. I dunno, I wanted to see some bromance! I'm all about emotions. Chad Gracey's style has always bugged me because he always drums with his head down & back hunched over a little bit. I'd love to see him sit up straight and crack a smile once in a while or twirl a stick. But I realize that's his style of playing and it's not ever going to change. Pat was the one last night that just seemed to be "there." I know he's always been that sort of way too. Maybe I need to go back and watch it a second time and pay more attention to Pat. Anyway, this would be my only criticisms of last night. Gracey is just Gracey. But as I mentioned earlier, I think their performance will get tighter as they tour, even their stage presence.

I also might add, I like CT's new look. It's sharp. Glad to see he ditched the hat and trench coat thing.

[World Dreamer]

I have several questions and comments inspired by last night's performance.

1. Who is Bill Hynes and how did he become involved with Live? I don't know him at all, but there aren't very flattering stories published about him in presumably reputable publications. His introduction was absolutely awful and reminiscent of Zach Galifianakis' rooftop speech from The Hangover. Who is this weirdo and why is he introducing Live?

2. When did Live get so old? My gosh it was clear from the get go that the on stage energy that once made them great and carried many otherwise lacking performances is long gone.

3. Why does Live insist on playing only greatest hits shows? Is their target audience really the mindless idiots who fill stadiums and want to see the bald guy sing I Alone and Lightning Crashes, or more devoted fans who seek out smaller clubs to see their favorite band play the very songs in their catalog that made them devoted fans?

4. Live needs to decide what its legacy is going to be. Are they going to go out trying their hardest and doing justice to their brilliant catalog, or phone it in and be a sad washed up band doing figure eights?

5. The Live I fell in love with is still long gone. The Live I fell in love with died sometime between June 1998 when I saw them at the Trax in Charlottesville, VA, and when they reemerged with the final version of TDTH. It was nice to see the original line-up together again, but it's just not the same or even close.

Great post.

[World Dreamer]

I think it is hilarious that people are saying they are nervous or rusty.

They aren't "rusty". They aren't nervous. What you saw is what you will get.

Ed has been performing TC for the past 3 years. CCP with Shinn have been as well.

All those songs have been performed over and over and over for the last decade by all parties involved.

I am going to watch it again in the morning and then post my opinions.

[jayda]

I am going to watch it again in the morning and then post my opinions.

To save me reading the whole thread, is there a link somewhere to the show?

[dangum]

To save me reading the whole thread, is there a link somewhere to the show?

You can download it from a link provided by throwing_cheetahs
http://www.fansoflive.com/forums/index.php...ndpost&p=130026

[jayda]

You can download it from a link provided by throwing_cheetahs
http://www.fansoflive.com/forums/index.php...ndpost&p=130026

Thanks Dan and throwing_cheetahs.

[jclive]

As someone who was there last night and who also watched the stream today...I can tell you the stream did not capture the energy or the sound of the show. Yes Ed's voice did crack a few times, but that did not take away from the shear energy that the guys had, especially CT and Ed. Having them literally right in front of my face for LJ and WD was incredibly intense. The throwing of Ruby Lou at the end of the night was the cherry to top off such an energized performance.

And seriously it was their first performance in front of a crowd in years...It wasn't perfect, but rock and roll is never perfect and that is what makes it great. It was raw and emotional and full of energy. That's all I could have asked for out of it.

Watching it right now. 100% agree that this doesn't do the show justice. Go see them when they tour this year and find out for yourselves. Welcome back, LIVE!!!

[san_sao]

They aren't "rusty". They aren't nervous. What you saw is what you will get.

I don't think they're rusty. I totally think they were nervous.

[dangum]

Some audience videos have been uploaded to YouTube by [WAPSoltis]

Lakini's Juice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az6_P6Z0fOY

Selling the Drama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFOGFRuafQg

The Dolphin's Cry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEScVFZG_Sk

Lightning Crashes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1y7zd6Gpjs

Operation Spirit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61_-Ubt0jGI

All Over You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcjicp3Lznw

White, Discussion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjEygP1PKto

I Alone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR1LpW-ASII

Pain Lies on the Riverside
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuUDTERRNb0

[Merica]

Not sure I buy them being nervous as any kind of excuse (if one needed to be made, and I'm not necessarily saying it does). I just think they're experienced as fuck at this stage, they've played big live shows before, in front of millions if you count things like SNL etc. And with Ed back and playing their trusty TC material, this should be like riding a bike. Certainly, I've no doubt the crowd would have been receptive and if there were any nerves at all they should have disappeared during the very first song. Certainly as far as CCP are concerned. Maybe I could understand Ed being a little more nervous cos he might feel like he's squeaked back in and won't be as assured of a positive reception.

But yeah, I dunno. I never really interpreted anything I saw as nerves, tbh. I could watch again to check but... meh.

[Merica]

I have several questions and comments inspired by last night's performance.

1. Who is Bill Hynes and how did he become involved with Live? I don't know him at all, but there aren't very flattering stories published about him in presumably reputable publications. His introduction was absolutely awful and reminiscent of Zach Galifianakis' rooftop speech from The Hangover. Who is this weirdo and why is he introducing Live?

2. When did Live get so old? My gosh it was clear from the get go that the on stage energy that once made them great and carried many otherwise lacking performances is long gone.

3. Why does Live insist on playing only greatest hits shows? Is their target audience really the mindless idiots who fill stadiums and want to see the bald guy sing I Alone and Lightning Crashes, or more devoted fans who seek out smaller clubs to see their favorite band play the very songs in their catalog that made them devoted fans?

4. Live needs to decide what its legacy is going to be. Are they going to go out trying their hardest and doing justice to their brilliant catalog, or phone it in and be a sad washed up band doing figure eights?

5. The Live I fell in love with is still long gone. The Live I fell in love with died sometime between June 1998 when I saw them at the Trax in Charlottesville, VA, and when they reemerged with the final version of TDTH. It was nice to see the original line-up together again, but it's just not the same or even close.

Welcome back! Great to see you round these parts again.

1. He's their business partner. Dunno when he became involved, tbh. But certainly more prominent over the last few years. He's also The Thrill here on the forum.

3. Yeah, as I said in my own post, this setlist was sort of understandable but also a missed opportunity. That crowd is full of handpicked fans, yeah? Plenty of diehards, hm? So they're savvier with the material than the average crowd, right? Then drop some dope album cuts imo.

4. They only modestly explored The Turn live, which was very disappointing cos it's a kickass album. They also continued to lean on the TC stalwarts throughout that run. I guess if they drop a great album with Ed then maybe that'll shape things up, but I think at this point the smart money says this is it. This kind of setlist, sprinkling in whatever the latest single or two is from whatever they release going forwards. Hope I'm wrong, though.

5. Between June 1998 and the release of TDTH those banging TDTH rockers got lost in the mix. Vine Street, Still Aroused, Don't Wait, Change. Such amazing material - and the best you got was one B-side released. Laughable. But yeah, who knows what changed. Did Ed fully embrace God during that time?

[vivapokey]

One thing I don't get is why people get so annoyed at others using phones at gigs. How does that impact your enjoyment? If it does, that's your problem, not theirs. The only time it matters is if the phone is physically blocking your view. Otherwise, let people experience it how they want. If I ever take my phone out I'll barely even look at the screen. Check to make sure it's in frame but then hold it still and adjust my eyeline so I'm watching the band on stage, not through the phone. Then I have my own little snippet recordings to watch later as a reminder. Fun fact too, even if your recording is sub-par (and even if it's being recorded professionally too) most people will still favour their own work because they feel more attached to it. It's from their personal point of view of the gig. It's why you see so many shit quality recordings on YouTube. I agree, they mean dick all to anyone else, but yeah. Stress less about that shit and worry more about the band stinking it up on stage.