NYE Party At Think Loud Entertainment, "mingle with [CCP] and ask them all of these important q..." Options

[mfitz804]

No Ed...could be a good time for a "surprise" guest and announcement.

[SJN1279]

No Ed...could be a good time for a "surprise" guest and announcement.

Or a surprise performance streamed online.

[mfitz804]

Or a surprise performance streamed online.

Exactly.

[andymbj]

Just 5 guys jamming. Nothing more than that.

So..Chad, Chad, Patrick, Kevin Martin...Who's the fifth jammer?

[Fool_By_The_River]

Just 5 guys jamming. Nothing more than that.

So..Chad, Chad, Patrick, Kevin Martin...Who's the fifth jammer?

I was wondering the same thing.

[Heather]

I was wondering the same thing.

Sean Hennesey maybe?

[Fool_By_The_River]

To be honest, i want it to be about the Reunion which the band has confirmed in every way possible, except officially announcing: Live is back with Ed. I'm not really fired up about the whole Kevin martin, Sean Henessey thing, although i like their music. I just want to know about LIVE w/ Ed moving forward.

This post has been edited by Fool_By_The_River: Dec 4 2016, 10:09 pm

[World Dreamer]

For the "Live Community", a surprise NYE event would be great.

For anyone outside the "Live Community" a NYE "surprise" will be drowned out by the 700 NYE events of the other bands that are relevant. A LIVE announcement wouldn't register one bit.

If Live were good a making decisions, which they aren't, they would wait and do some kind of huge announcement later.

Then again, up to this point, LIVE has more or less taken the hardcore fans for granted and have done everything possible to ignore/disappoint them time and time again.

Whatever they decide you can pretty much bet it will be the worst possible option.

This post has been edited by World Dreamer: Dec 5 2016, 12:21 am

[mfitz804]

For the "Live Community", a surprise NYE event would be great.

For anyone outside the "Live Community" a NYE "surprise" will be drowned out by the 700 NYE events of the other bands that are relevant. A LIVE announcement wouldn't register one bit.

If Live were good a making decisions, which they aren't, they would wait and do some kind of huge announcement later.

Then again, up to this point, LIVE has more or less taken the hardcore fans for granted and have done everything possible to ignore/disappoint them time and time again.

Whatever they decide you can pretty much bet it will be the worst possible option.

I agree with your logic in part; honestly I don't think its going to register much outside the hardcore fans no matter how they announce it. The non-Live community was not exactly heartbroken that Ed left in the first place; it was barely a blip.

At this point, they should be thinking of bringing back the hardcore fans first, then worrying about the rest. In a world where 14-16 year old girls probably account for 80% of music sales, a bunch of 40 somethings re-starting a band in a genre that music buyers aren't even interested anymore is not going to be some great revelation.

Reunite your fan base first, then look to expand. That's what I would do.

[SJN1279]

Reunite your fan base first, then look to expand. That's what I would do.

I agree 100 percent.

[mfitz804]

I agree 100 percent.

Then obviously we should be co-managing this band. Hopefully they read this and they reach out.

[vivapokey]

It's impossible for them to reunite their fan base now. It hasn't been united since the 90s, and even then directly after TC there were people pissed off and upset that SS and TDTH weren't like TC. The worse and worse Ed got only furthered to split the fans more. Then when Ed turned out to be a thieving piece of pond scum and left it split further thenwe got Chris and people realised there was now an alternative which was good. Then Chris left and we're back with Ed...there's just no way it can be reunited. The only thing they can do is just do...what they do. It'll possibly just alienate part of the fan base to the point they leave and all you're left with are the Ed fans..so, they themselves would be united. But united is different from reunited.

[mfitz804]

It's impossible for them to reunite their fan base now. It hasn't been united since the 90s, and even then directly after TC there were people pissed off and upset that SS and TDTH weren't like TC. The worse and worse Ed got only furthered to split the fans more. Then when Ed turned out to be a thieving piece of pond scum and left it split further thenwe got Chris and people realised there was now an alternative which was good. Then Chris left and we're back with Ed...there's just no way it can be reunited. The only thing they can do is just do...what they do. It'll possibly just alienate part of the fan base to the point they leave and all you're left with are the Ed fans..so, they themselves would be united. But united is different from reunited.

I couldn't disagree more. I was going to type out a whole response, instead I'll just say "the opposite of this".

[SJN1279]

I couldn't disagree more. I was going to type out a whole response, instead I'll just say "the opposite of this".

You're not going to get all the fans from the 90's back, that is just an impossibility.

However, I have been sensing a lot of excitement from social media regarding the reunion. People are excited to see Live again, and I believe that their return will be very successful. 90's successful? No. But much more successful together, than they ever were apart.

[vivapokey]

I couldn't disagree more. I was going to type out a whole response, instead I'll just say "the opposite of this".

You really think I'm 2016/17 Ed will rediscover what made him great in the 90s and somehow reproduce quality of that level so undeniable that fans who have continually felt more and more resentment towards him for 15yrs will come back around in such numbers it'll reunite the fanbase? 'It only that, but he'll find a way to make so many of those fans somehow forget all the underhanded and horrible things he did along the way to a point where they can enjoy the music unobstructed? I mean, sure, if you believe in miracles/God, then why not...
You can say that CCP have that belief in him again, but CCP also stand to make some money out of this so that comes back to my original point in all of this reunion - it's purely financially motivated and that isn't in the spirit of Live. It's CCP recognising a chance to make some more cash and the financial partners getting on board because they want some more money too. With all that going on, how can a fan base truly reunite?

But as Nick says, it's all about how "successful" it is. CCP should welcome Nick back with open arms now seeing as they at least have reunited in philosophies - money!!