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post Dec 2 2016, 3:59 pm
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Posted in the Freaks4LIVE FB group. I think the hint here is that there's going to be some kind of announcement about the future of Live. They know there's only one really important question on everyone's mind, and if they say they'll answer then there you go.

Anyone planning on going? I would if I lived near York. I'd be PISSED though if Ed is going to be there and they're going to play a surprise, short set and they didn't announce it in advance. I'd fly from across the country for that.

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While I understand the desire to restrict the never-ending arguments about 90's Ed verses 2000's Ed and Ed verses Shinn to a single thread so that it doesn't pervade every discussion on this board, objectively speaking, I think it really is relevant to this thread and will probably be relevant to many reviews of Live's performances. This was Live's first performance with Ed after 7 years, and after having Chris Shinn as the lead singer and putting out The Turn which is more rocking than anything Live has done with Ed since Secret Samadhi. Live is telling us they are getting it all back together again like it used to be in the 90's. I think it is fair game to evaluate this performance, and evaluate Ed, as arm-chair fan critics, by weighing in on whether Ed still has the same vocal qualities and stage performance as he did int he 90's (the era they are trying to re-claim). That was a direct question from the interviewer on the MMR interview this morning. I have also seen comments in this thread regarding Chad Taylor and Chad Gracey in the same vein. And the reality is that Ed replaced Chris Shinn as the lead singer of Live. Live had 90's Ed, then 2000's Ed, then Chris Shinn, then 2000's Ed 2.0. We've all lived through all of that. Like it or not, that is going to come with comparisons and evaluations and, regrettably, arguments. Particularly because many Live fans (including the casual fans) will only decide to go along for the ride if Live with Ed brings to the stage and to the recordings the kind of mojo that they had in the 90's. So it's fair to evaluate how they are doing with that. This is a message board. Isn't the entire medium built for opinions, debate and arguments? Perhaps, at a minimum, we could try to limit the opinions, debate and arguments to new points and novel observations instead of rehashing the same things over and over again into their second decade.

By the way. I see Live as being at a critical juncture right now. They get one chance to get this right. Since TDTH, they have been on one long slide down the ranks of obscurity. Apart from the single Heaven, they dropped in quality and relevance with each step of the way, from V to BoP, to SFBM, to The Turn with a different lead singer. Now they have an opportunity with this renion after 7 years to turn it around. They can pump this up with a lot of PR, but at the end of the day, they need to make their stage performances in front of audiences and their new music return to the quality of 1995. If they can do that, they will be a band again for a long time, and they will have an ample active fan base to sustain them. If not, then they will be left with about 5 people on this message board and a passive list of followers on Facebook, and that Live logo might as well be a grave marker.

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LiveForNow   NYE Party At Think Loud Entertainment   Dec 2 2016, 3:59 pm
Unsheathed   Posted in the Freaks4LIVE FB group. I think the h...   Dec 2 2016, 4:09 pm
The Thrill   I am not sure about Ed being there. However, a GO...   Dec 2 2016, 6:09 pm
Fool_By_The_River   I am not sure about Ed being there.Have you any in...   Dec 2 2016, 9:48 pm
The Thrill   Have you any inside info to share with us about t...   Dec 3 2016, 12:20 am
World Dreamer   Im sorry, I don't. If there is is any news f...   Dec 3 2016, 12:24 am
The Thrill   Is Shinn invited? Didn't see him on the gu...   Dec 3 2016, 12:32 am
Fool_By_The_River   Is Shinn invitedThat wouldn't be awkward, cons...   Dec 3 2016, 10:45 am
SJN1279   Im sorry, I don't. If there is is any news f...   Dec 3 2016, 9:55 am
Hoodstock   I don't think the time is right for The Graci...   Dec 3 2016, 10:01 am
The Thrill   I don't think the time is right for The Graci...   Dec 3 2016, 10:05 am
SJN1279   It's a New Years Eve Party. Don't think ...   Dec 3 2016, 10:11 am
The Thrill   I always think too much....lmao :) A Gracious Fe...   Dec 3 2016, 10:24 am
andymbj   Just 5 guys jamming. Nothing more than that. S...   Dec 4 2016, 9:22 pm
Bremang   midnight countdown lightning crashes   Dec 2 2016, 11:12 pm
World Dreamer   By Design fits this somehow.   Dec 3 2016, 10:55 am
mfitz804   No Ed...could be a good time for a "surprise...   Dec 4 2016, 2:05 pm
SJN1279   No Ed...could be a good time for a "surprise...   Dec 4 2016, 3:51 pm
mfitz804   Or a surprise performance streamed online. Exac...   Dec 4 2016, 5:07 pm
Fool_By_The_River   Just 5 guys jamming. Nothing more than that.So..C...   Dec 4 2016, 9:30 pm
Heather   I was wondering the same thing. Sean Hennesey m...   Dec 4 2016, 9:59 pm
Fool_By_The_River   To be honest, i want it to be about the Reunion wh...   Dec 4 2016, 10:07 pm
World Dreamer   For the "Live Community", a surprise NYE...   Dec 5 2016, 12:15 am
mfitz804   For the "Live Community", a surprise NY...   Dec 5 2016, 1:39 pm
SJN1279   Reunite your fan base first, then look to expan...   Dec 5 2016, 2:14 pm
mfitz804   I agree 100 percent. Then obviously we should b...   Dec 5 2016, 4:44 pm
vivapokey   It's impossible for them to reunite their fan ...   Dec 5 2016, 6:40 pm
mfitz804   It's impossible for them to reunite their fan...   Dec 5 2016, 7:18 pm
SJN1279   I couldn't disagree more. I was going to type...   Dec 5 2016, 7:23 pm
vivapokey   I couldn't disagree more. I was going to type...   Dec 5 2016, 7:30 pm
SJN1279   If you're a CCP fan or a Live fan, you should ...   Dec 5 2016, 7:41 pm
vivapokey   If you're a CCP fan or a Live fan, you should...   Dec 5 2016, 8:20 pm
SJN1279   Ok? None of that was really anything that I was t...   Dec 5 2016, 8:53 pm
Merica   Why would CCP fans be upset with them taking a mo...   Dec 6 2016, 6:33 am
vivapokey   Well in this case the more lucrative option is al...   Dec 6 2016, 8:20 am
vivapokey   lol how do you still not get that "lucrative...   Dec 5 2016, 9:10 pm
mfitz804   Pretty clear you'd still bitter. I'm leavi...   Dec 5 2016, 10:41 pm
vivapokey   I wouldn't even really say bitter. More disapp...   Dec 5 2016, 11:17 pm
SJN1279   I wouldn't even really say bitter. More disap...   Dec 6 2016, 6:53 am
Merica   They made it a go with a new singer, and it didn...   Dec 6 2016, 6:59 am
Fool_By_The_River   as a fan of the band, shows are what you want.I wo...   Dec 6 2016, 8:03 am
vivapokey   They made it a go with a new singer, and it didn...   Dec 6 2016, 8:15 am
SJN1279   To me it did work, better than anything they...   Dec 6 2016, 10:20 am
vivapokey   So your favorite Live performance was a 30 minute...   Dec 6 2016, 11:38 am
TonyD   No, it was the near 2 hour headlining show at The...   Dec 6 2016, 6:00 pm
vivapokey   Did you ever see live in the 90s? As I original...   Dec 6 2016, 8:55 pm
TonyD   As I originally said, it was the best show I...   Dec 7 2016, 8:31 am
vivapokey   Sorry I don't have the time to read all of yo...   Dec 7 2016, 8:52 am
MightyHet   No, it was the near 2 hour headlining show at The...   Dec 6 2016, 7:50 pm
vivapokey   This is one of the most laughable posts I've ...   Dec 6 2016, 8:58 pm
SuperHans   No, it was the near 2 hour headlining show at The...   Dec 7 2016, 5:30 am
vivapokey   This is the truth. Best Live show I have been to ...   Dec 7 2016, 5:39 am
mattyeagles   This is the truth Super Hans, the people may want...   Dec 7 2016, 8:04 am
vivapokey   why are you on this board? I'm on this boar...   Dec 7 2016, 8:23 am
SJN1279   This is the truth. Best Live show I have been to ...   Dec 7 2016, 9:10 am
vivapokey   I think there were at least 3 people disappointed...   Dec 7 2016, 9:15 am
LiveForNow   This is the truth. Best Live show I have been to ...   Dec 7 2016, 4:33 pm
SuperHans   You have the best username on here! I hope I...   Dec 8 2016, 6:31 am
vivapokey   Tell you what, that crack is very moreish. You...   Dec 8 2016, 6:41 am
LiveForNow   You can tell me yeah, as a a mate, is the bottom ...   Dec 9 2016, 4:58 pm
dangum   So, is there any more news on what's happening...   Dec 30 2016, 7:04 am
Merica   Ha, yeah. As well as being funny, that's also ...   Dec 6 2016, 8:29 am
FishOutaWater   Pokey, I get where you are coming from. But time ...   Dec 6 2016, 8:36 am
vivapokey   Pokey, I get where you are coming from. But time...   Dec 6 2016, 9:11 am
Merica   Quality not quantity and all that.   Dec 6 2016, 10:54 am
Bremang   Follow up to The Turn Live - On The Bus   Dec 6 2016, 10:56 pm
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vivapokey   Anyways, after all that digression aside, I hope t...   Dec 7 2016, 9:29 am
SJN1279   Anyways, after all that digression aside, I hope ...   Dec 7 2016, 9:40 am
World Dreamer   Me too. I hope ECCP still enjoy touring too, cau...   Dec 30 2016, 12:14 pm
grandfalloon   Looking forward to meeting lots of folks and a cle...   Dec 30 2016, 11:20 am
Bremang   Looking forward to meeting lots of folks and a cl...   Dec 30 2016, 12:07 pm
Merica   If anybody is going to this, your job is to ask ab...   Dec 30 2016, 3:19 pm
dangum   https://www.facebook.com/edkowalczyk/posts/101550...   Dec 30 2016, 6:51 pm
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