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post Jan 1 2017, 3:54 am
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jan 1 2017, 1:12 am) *

The show was amazing in person. The band was intense but having fun. Definitely, one of my top concert experiences period.

I agree. The show in person was great. It sounded much different than the streaming mix. Unfortunately there is not much you can do to make it sound like it does at the actual venue. There are some limitations to what the FB steam can do.
At the venue they had the mix correct.
Anyone else who attending will tell you the same. Also. Some people were commenting that the crowd wasn't into it. That is the furthest from the truth. The crowd was very loud and into it. However with the streaming for some reason it doesn't pick up the room noise. It's very sterile.
Līve is back. Let's see what 2017 brings!!


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post Jan 1 2017, 4:00 am
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Just finished watching it. A few thoughts...

1. Most importantly of all: Bill, man. Anybody ever seen you and Joe Rogan in the same room? Srsly.

2. Wasn't a fan of the "get your singer back" / "we got our singer back" stuff, just cos again the language of it all seems to pretend that Chris doesn't exist and that whole thing didn't happen.

3. The band sounded kind of tame at times, but I'm happy to put this down to watching it via a FB thing instead of being there in the room. Same with crowd noise tbh. I'm sure in other videos we'll get a better sense of how they're sounding.

4. Ed's certainly trying. Not sure I'm on board, though. At times it's totally fine, but at others I'm reminded of why I'm not really jumping for joy about his return.

5. But hey, he didn't undermine Operation Spirit. Good times.

6. I wish they threw something fun into the setlist. Waitress, Graze, Meltdown. I dunno, just a little something left field. As it is they dropped a really safe setlist. MJ stuff is to be expected given the MJ anniversary, but the rest is kinda standard heritage act stuff. Like come on, guys. That audience is clearly more familiar with your work than the average bunch. Take advantage!


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post Jan 1 2017, 4:33 am
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I listened to the whole concert carefully and loud. I am sorry but I do not hear what most people hear here. The performance was very good and much better than the Paradiso concert. The Beauty of Gray, Lakini’s Juice, All Over You and White Discussion were excellent. To those who said about Ed’s voice and instruments, the sound etc: Go check your ears and stop presenting yourselves as experts in music. Live is back, like it or not! Chris was Live's singer for The Turn and he did a very good job but he poorly performed Live songs (with very few exceptions), like it or not!



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QUOTE(Merica @ Jan 1 2017, 4:00 am) *



4. Ed's certainly trying. Not sure I'm on board, though. At times it's totally fine, but at others I'm reminded of why I'm not really jumping for joy about his return.





You really liked Chris’ performance of Live songs and you imply now that those performances are better than Ed's performance in this concert. Come on guys! All of you who were really into the White Discussion forum, it is ok to acknowledge that Chris was good only for The Turn.


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QUOTE(Costakoui @ Jan 1 2017, 9:33 am) *
Chris [...] poorly performed Live songs (with very few exceptions), like it or not!


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it is ok to acknowledge that Chris was good only for The Turn.


Comical stuff.


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Ohhhh also, I forgot to add. Ed's performance of The Dolphin's Cry was terrible because his eyes were closed throughout the opening portion of the song. As we've learned, closed eyes = terrible singing amirite?

I'm never letting that go.


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QUOTE(Merica @ Jan 1 2017, 5:02 am) *

Comical stuff.



What is comical is to say that Chris performs Live songs better than Ed. This is laughable to say the least. Chris performed The Beauty of Gray very well, perhaps Iris was ok. The rest were just listenable. He contributed to the making of The Turn, which is a very good album but it has some weak songs.


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QUOTE(Merica @ Jan 1 2017, 5:05 am) *

Ohhhh also, I forgot to add. Ed's performance of The Dolphin's Cry was terrible because his eyes were closed throughout the opening portion of the song. As we've learned, closed eyes = terrible singing amirite?

I'm never letting that go.



TDC was performed very well. I do not know what you were hearing. White Discussion was superb. Live is back. Or this is the Live that is back. If you don't like it why are you here?


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QUOTE(Costakoui @ Jan 1 2017, 10:32 am) *

What is comical is to say that Chris performs Live songs better than Ed. This is laughable to say the least.


I never said that. You inferred it from what I said.

But since you're asking, yeah. For me, as a general rule: Old Ed > Chris > New Ed.

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TDC was performed very well. I do not know what you were hearing. White Discussion was superb. Live is back. Or this is the Live that is back. If you don't like it why are you here?


You've missed the joke.


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QUOTE(Merica @ Jan 1 2017, 5:40 am) *

I never said that. You inferred it from what I said.

But since you're asking, yeah. For me, as a general rule: Old Ed > Chris > New Ed.
You've missed the joke.



Obviously i missed the joke. Understanding of jokes is culturally contingent!

Your equation is wrong. There is no new or old Ed. It is Live 1990s, Live 2000s and Live now as compared with Live Chris.

So the comparison should be “Live 1990s > Live Chris > Live 2000s”. “Live now” should not yet be part of this comparison. Live 2000s was the main reason why Live split. A reasonable assumption to make is that “Live now” is not going to sound like the Live from 2000s. I do not expect it to sound like the 1990s but in the studio it could get close.


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QUOTE(Costakoui @ Jan 1 2017, 10:50 am) *

Your equation is wrong. There is no new or old Ed. It is Live 1990s, Live 2000s and Live now as compared with Live Chris.


I think both equations are valid. And really, they're similar as far as Ed is concerned. Live 1990's was Old Ed. Live 2000's (and everything he's done since) is New Ed. Simples.


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So it turns out Zak Loy did perform with the band. I wonder whether he will be a permanent touring member or whether it was a once off (like Alex Lefever and Sean Hennessy were for Chris Shinn's debut show)

Also, has Zak been involved with any of the studio material that Live's been working on recently?


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Good to know that somehow magically Ed's voice only sounded bad on stream, it only cracked constantly on stream and in person it was completely different and all is good and fine lol convenient when that happens


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Dare I say it?

No plexiglass!!!!!

I agree the audio mix not very good but overall a pretty solid show, I think. I was expecting a much smaller setup but this was the real deal. One can only hope that writing new music will really take them off!


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Haven't read through any of the comments / reaction to this yet but for my part I thought that was pretty fuckin' good. Ed made me cringe a few times but guess that's to be expected, thought he did really well. Sticking to earlier material was the right move. Still got a way to go before I'm totally convinced by this band again but they've put a marker down there, good on them. New music has to be great though.

Bit off-topic but what is it with people and their phones at gigs. Dude centre-right in the second row white t-shirt watched the whole show through his fucking camera. Each to their own, I guess, but why you'd want to make a tinny recording of a moment you never really lived is beyond me.

Anyway, thought this was a cool thing for the band to do and it was actually produced really well. Lets see what comes next.



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