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post Sep 23 2014, 12:30 pm
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Sep 23 2014, 1:03 pm) *

Classic Live songs typically had lyrics that reflected spirituality, and they were about finding yourself in one way or another. The message usually took you from a dark place, and left you in an uplifting one. Siren's Call has the lyrics of a depressing break-up song, which is the furthest thing from a Live song in the 1990's era(or any era).

The music sounds like Live, but that is where it ends.


post-secret Samadhi, yes. But not before that time. They had a lot of songs with lyrical content discussing spirituality (often questioning it), but it wasn't until TDTH that Ed shifted the lyrical content to feel-good uplifting rock. Prior to that, the lyrics often dealt with personal/social conflict.

Samadhi was really dark, and at times depressing, none of the "Jesus and my daughter are awesome" stuff that popped up in later material. The Siren's song feels (musically and lyrically) like it fits around TC/SS.


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post Sep 23 2014, 12:37 pm
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QUOTE(ThrowgnCpr @ Sep 23 2014, 1:30 pm) *

post-secret Samadhi, yes. But not before that time. They had a lot of songs with lyrical content discussing spirituality (often questioning it), but it wasn't until TDTH that Ed shifted the lyrical content to feel-good uplifting rock. Prior to that, the lyrics often dealt with personal/social conflict.

Samadhi was really dark, and at times depressing, none of the "Jesus and my daughter are awesome" stuff that popped up in later material. The Siren's song feels (musically and lyrically) like it fits around TC/SS.


How many break-up songs were on TC or SS? Even the darker songs from Live were never outright depressing. Lakini's Juice took you from a place of confusion and ended with "Let Me Ride". There was nothing more awesome than that.

I never found Samadhi to be depressing. Some of the lyrics may have been confusing, but that is where it ended.

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post Sep 23 2014, 12:52 pm
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Sep 23 2014, 12:37 pm) *

How many break-up songs were on TC or SS? Even the darker songs from Live were never outright depressing. Lakini's Juice took you from a place of confusion and ended with "Let Me Ride". There was nothing more awesome than that.

I never found Samadhi to be depressing. Some of the lyrics may have been confusing, but that is where it ended.



I do not really care for the lyrics as long as they are not "la la la la la". Does this remind you of anything from spiritual hero?


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post Sep 23 2014, 1:07 pm
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QUOTE(Costakoui @ Sep 23 2014, 1:52 pm) *

I do not really care for the lyrics as long as they are not "la la la la la". Does this remind you of anything from spiritual hero?



I'm saying Siren's Call does not match up with Classic Live because the lyrics don't match the spirituality and the message. It is a decent enough rock song, but it does not sound like Live.

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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Sep 23 2014, 1:07 pm) *

That was a different period where Live/Ed went after the Hot A/C market after Heaven hit.

I'm saying Siren's Call does not match up with Classic Live because the lyrics don't match the spirituality and the message. It is a decent enough rock song, but it does not sound like Live.



You are contradicting yourself. Earlier you said that it sounds like Live but the lyrics are not Live. Make up you mind. Also, how do you expect the lyrics to be around the same theme or send similar messages and meanings as before? Ed used to write all lyrics, he is gone now, somebody else is doing the writing and he cannot be in Ed's 1990s head, even Ed himself cannot be in his 1990s mind. So drop the argument about lyrics and that lyrics determined Live - Live is sound, raw rock sound, that's why it is called LIVE.


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post Sep 23 2014, 1:20 pm
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Sep 23 2014, 1:07 pm) *

I'm saying Siren's Call does not match up with Classic Live because the lyrics don't match the spirituality and the message. It is a decent enough rock song, but it does not sound like Live.



Also, you edited this message whereby you wrote that in the 2000s Live (Ed) wrote "la la la la" lyrics because they wanted to sound more like A/C whatever rock. So, this is acceptable for you but SC's lyrics are not? Again, your arguments are purely reductionist - because you do not like CCP you reduce any music they produce to your biases. Reductionist approaches are just void of reason and I think that it is better not to post here anymore - your opinion is highly predictable and therefore unnecessary.


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post Sep 23 2014, 1:40 pm
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QUOTE(Costakoui @ Sep 23 2014, 2:20 pm) *

Also, you edited this message whereby you wrote that in the 2000s Live (Ed) wrote "la la la la" lyrics because they wanted to sound more like A/C whatever rock. So, this is acceptable for you but SC's lyrics are not? Again, your arguments are purely reductionist - because you do not like CCP you reduce any music they produce to your biases. Reductionist approaches are just void of reason and I think that it is better not to post here anymore - your opinion is highly predictable and therefore unnecessary.



I enjoyed the Live music from the 2000's, but did so without comparing it to their work in the 1990's, because for the most it was very different.

Some fans may enjoy Siren's Call, it isn't a bad rock song at all. But to me, it is a far cry from 1990's Live, especially when it comes to lyrical message.

That is all I'm saying.

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post Sep 23 2014, 1:46 pm
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The more I listen to the song, the less I like it. The fact that it is basically a break up song lessens its potential impact for me. The melody is fine, the song message is just lacking to my tastes.


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post Sep 23 2014, 2:02 pm
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the more little Nick hates it the more the true fans love it, another great song by CCCP >>>< thumbsup.gif


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QUOTE(Costakoui @ Sep 23 2014, 11:29 am) *

I am confused here, which one is the first single? Are they releasing two singles at the same time?

It is a bonus song when you download the album in advance via Itunes, not the single.


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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Sep 23 2014, 2:46 pm) *

The more I listen to the song, the less I like it.


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post Sep 23 2014, 2:26 pm
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QUOTE(zmanpga @ Sep 23 2014, 3:02 pm) *

the more little Nick hates it the more the true fans love it, another great song by CCCP >>>< thumbsup.gif


I don't hate it. The music sounds good, the lyrics I am not a fan of.


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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Sep 23 2014, 1:03 pm) *

Classic Live songs typically had lyrics that reflected spirituality, and they were about finding yourself in one way or another. The message usually took you from a dark place, and left you in an uplifting one. Siren's Call has the lyrics of a depressing break-up song, which is the furthest thing from a Live song in the 1990's era(or any era).

The music sounds like Live, but that is where it ends.


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Do you even know what a Siren is?



Maybe you don't consider Greek Mythology spiritual, smh.


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Do you even know what a Siren is?
Maybe you don't consider Greek Mythology spiritual, smh.


I'm pretty sure no one in 2014 considers Greek Mythology spiritual.

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