Columbus, OH (The LC), June 21, 2013 Options

[dangum]

Setlist

1. White, Discussion
2. All Over You
3. Lakini's Juice
4. Operation Spirit
5. Iris
6. Lightning Crashes
7. I Alone
link

An excellent audience recording of the show can be downloaded from here (thanks live2cd)

Some videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuRQ_pM8F5A - Iris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyLw6iWzMzg - Lightning Crashes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHF3hm5IshU - Lakini's Juice (partial)

[Live4Life]

Am i allowed to say what i think or do i need to sugarcoat cause i'm not very good at that?

okay, couldn't even finish watching lightning crashes. It sounds horrid. The sound maybe?

Way to much feedback on iris.

And why is he singing like that? Is it just me or was the sound off?

So, that's me sugarcoating.

[Bobby V]

Am i allowed to say what i think or do i need to sugarcoat cause i'm not very good at that?

okay, couldn't even finish watching lightning crashes. It sounds horrid. The sound maybe?

Way to much feedback on iris.

And why is he singing like that? Is it just me or was the sound off?

So, that's me sugarcoating.

Lay off the catnip because that is the only explanation for your comments.

[live2cd]

I may be biased since I was there, but they blew me away last night. Loved Shinn and cant wait to see them again.

The full show is over on DIME if anyone wants it:
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=454997

Sponge and Filter were great. Everclear (while not bad) -- well, you all can be the judge if you
take a listen.

[dangum]

The full show is over on DIME if anyone wants it:
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=454997

All 4 bands! Thanks for taking the time to record the whole night. It will be a nice memento for the fans in attendance. Awesome.

I might have a go at syncing up your audio with some of the YouTube video clips out there - if you don't mind.

[live2cd]

have at it!

[SinfulEyes]

All 4 bands! Thanks for taking the time to record the whole night. It will be a nice memento for the fans in attendance. Awesome.

I might have a go at syncing up your audio with some of the YouTube video clips out there - if you don't mind.

Thanks Dangum they sound amazing!

[Live4Life]

Lay off the catnip because that is the only explanation for your comments.

And again, a reply like this just because our opinions differ. wait, isn't there a new song? People said they were doing a new song?

This post has been edited by Live4Life: Jun 23 2013, 12:41 pm

[Bremang]

awesome guys.......iris is a great song

[SinfulEyes]

awesome guys.......iris is a great song

Definitely. I haven't seen them rock out this hard in over a decade. Live is BACK!

[LiveRoCkS77]

And again, a reply like this just because our opinions differ. wait, isn't there a new song? People said they were doing a new song?

Why are you still here, in every single LIVE tour thread, badmouthing them. Does it make you feel good about yourself?

You are a 60 year old woman sitting behind a keyboard who can't seem to get over some obvious shortcoming.

And to hide behind "am I allowed to say what I think?" kind of logic? NO, YOU ARE NOT.

You have stated that you are no longer a fan of this band, so why are you still here in every single thread, adding a negative two cents, other than to derail the band in some sort of negative way. Please, tell me. Because I'd like to know why a non fan of ANY band, would waste time out of their day to go in and balbber on about this and that. You are not a fan any longer, correct?

So just leave. BYE. Go the fuck away and stop commenting on something you no olonger have any interest in. Everyone can see that the only reason you do it is because you're holding some kind of grudge like a 11 year old child. Go back to Ed's side of things, since that is what you now enjoy.

For the record, I've been quite vocal about people laying off Ed as well. It's getting old, childish, immature, pointless, defamatory, disrespectful and downright ignorant. If you do not like Ed, or LIVE, be grown up enough to leave them alone and stick to what you do like. Instead of wasting precious moments of your life, going onto a message board and spreading negativity about something you don't even like. Make sense? I think it does. I would not go onto say Green Days site EVERY DAY, just to tell people there that I despise a band they love.

This is for LIVE tour dates and people who are FANS. People who want to hear reviews and possibly watch a video or two. If you're not a fan, coming in here under the guise of having the right to voice your opinion is simply ignorant and everyone knows it. If you're not a fan, go somewhere and speak of a person you are a fan of and please, grow the fuck up already. This has been going on for two years now and it's getting utterly ridiculous.

[Live4Life]

Don't reply to me if you don't like what i say. I am still a fan, just not the kind most of you want me to be. I'm not going to worship the band and say something sounds good when deep in my heart it doesn't sound right to me. I'm sorry you don't like that.
I would ask the same question of you as well...why are you here? Why is anyone here? Why do people from wd come here? To fight, shit stir , trash ed and his family...and nothing more...

It's a free country. I have never been one to sugarcoat anything i say. [and from what i've seen, neither are you.]

There are a lot of bandS AND MEMBERS i can't stand...for one example, axl rose, LOVE guns and roses but fucking HATE HIM AND MOST MEMBERS. But i still enjoy some of their music and still post on some of their sites.

Yes, i'm allowed to say whatever i want. You just choose not to like it.
There is no grudge, i would have to know the band to do that or they would have to have done something to me...they haven't. I do not care if they dislike me or what i say. I'm not their friend. I'm also not the only one voicing my opinions on them either. There are many many more.

So, please stop telling me not to come here....i don't need to lick the bands anus hole to come here. I simply said i didn't like how it sounds. some of the other vids are good but not those. not to me anyway. Have a great day.

[alexou]

Don't reply to me if you don't like what i say. I am still a fan, just not the kind most of you want me to be. I'm not going to worship the band and say something sounds good when deep in my heart it doesn't sound right to me. I'm sorry you don't like that.
I would ask the same question of you as well...why are you here? Why is anyone here? Why do people from wd come here? To fight, shit stir , trash ed and his family...and nothing more...

It's a free country. I have never been one to sugarcoat anything i say. [and from what i've seen, neither are you.]

There are a lot of bandS AND MEMBERS i can't stand...for one example, axl rose, LOVE guns and roses but fucking HATE HIM AND MOST MEMBERS. But i still enjoy some of their music and still post on some of their sites.

Yes, i'm allowed to say whatever i want. You just choose not to like it.
There is no grudge, i would have to know the band to do that or they would have to have done something to me...they haven't. I do not care if they dislike me or what i say. I'm not their friend. I'm also not the only one voicing my opinions on them either. There are many many more.

So, please stop telling me not to come here....i don't need to lick the bands anus hole to come here. I simply said i didn't like how it sounds. some of the other vids are good but not those. not to me anyway. Have a great day.

This site is still called fansoflive and that is why we would really like to:

1- spread the word about the fact that the guys are touring, having fun and doing great renditions of their music.

2- keep things separated. Live in the Live section and Ed on the Ed section. There was a time in which we were probably writing too much negatively in the Ed's section. I don't think it is an issue anymore, but can it be a place to promote this band?

Also,
A fan can disagree with the direction of band, critiscize the music as some of us did for a long time now, but I never looked at a facebook page to find negative comments and, moreover spread it on a fan page. Fans want to get reimbursed? And so what? Yes, one person can't be happy. It happens. He is not a fan that's all. The shows last week looked more crowded than the ones at the beginning of the tour.

We should all be happy by now. Live os touring again efficiently, a record is on the way and it is very promising for the fans. Ed will release another record in 2013, so every fan of one or the other should have something to enjoy.

[Live4Life]

This site is still called fansoflive and that is why we would really like to:

1- spread the word about the fact that the guys are touring, having fun and doing great renditions of their music.

2- keep things separated. Live in the Live section and Ed on the Ed section. There was a time in which we were probably writing too much negatively in the Ed's section. I don't think it is an issue anymore, but can it be a place to promote this band?

Also,
A fan can disagree with the direction of band, critiscize the music as some of us did for a long time now, but I never looked at a facebook page to find negative comments and, moreover spread it on a fan page. Fans want to get reimbursed? And so what? Yes, one person can't be happy. It happens. He is not a fan that's all. The shows last week looked more crowded than the ones at the beginning of the tour.

We should all be happy by now. Live os touring again efficiently, a record is on the way and it is very promising for the fans. Ed will release another record in 2013, so every fan of one or the other should have something to enjoy.

Exactly,
Yup, agree and it also has an ed section so if people at wd are no longer ed fans why do they post there? I rest my case on that one.
As to your whole facebook thing..not sure what you mean there but yeah...

This should all be done and over but people keep duiscussing it [and ed and the lawsuit] so until it stops, it's not going to end.

[LiveRoCkS77]

Here is a copy of a thread I started on WD in regards to the mess that contues to pile up since this bullshit started. I'm finished with it and I don't think it helps anyone, including Ed and Live. That really bothers me because all of us love and support these guys in different ways. I think it is detrimental to the well being and progression of both sides and is in direct contradiction to what this band has taught me to stand for and that includes Ed. So, good luck to you all. I sincerely hope everyone can just learn to stay on their side of the fence and stop throwing piles of shit at each other over to each others yard.

MY post at WD:

I want to say that over the past 6 months, I've grown tired of all the back and forth shit. People here may not like Ed and obviously have some sort of feud with Nick and Diane.

Now I have something to say. All of the fucking bullshit is doing Live no good. Fans on social media do not want to come to various avenues, only to see and read the constant vitriol and drama being spewed from BOTH sides. It is detrimental to the band and we all need to recognize and understand that. The idea is to attract new fans and not have them bombarded with constant drama and arguments that serve no purpose whatsoever but to drive people away. It has been a couple of years now and this fucking immature bullshit still carries on. As much as I dislike Diane at times, she is not going to stop for as long as she feels hated and begrudged by fans.

I stopped posting here for awhile because it all just got old. New fans coming to check this band out don't need or want to be subjected to this shit. IMO, it is not in the spirit of this band to continue on in this manner. I have asked her to stop and she has agreed to do so, as long as everyone else does.

Now, I know a lot of us are extremely disappointed and angry with Ed. But what's done is done. This has all just gotten so ridiculous and childish, that I am to the point where I no longer WANT to be a part of it and I no longer WILL be party to it. If it continues a moment longer, I will no longer post here, there, nor speak to ANYONE who continues to be a part of it. That includes everyone. I've done all I can to express my disappointment with Ed and what he has done, but that is over and it can't be taken back. I've vehemently defended this band and i believe they were done wrong in ways that hurt them very deeply. But carrying on this feud online and spreading constant shitstorms is detrimental to their well being musically in my opinion and I will no longer tolerate it from anyone. If one thing, the spirit of this band taught me to love and forgive, during a time when I was filled with hatred.

Dan has started to shut down threads and derail anyone from being spiteful towards Ed or towards Live. Despite all that has happened and contrary to what perceptions are, I believe Dan to be a genuinely good hearted person. I am not looking for attention or trying to do anything other then to end all the constant shit storming that I firmly believe to be detrimental to the progression of Live as they stand today.

So continue as you will, but know that I will no longer be party to it. you might as well delete my account here because I'm utterly sick of it right to the bone. I have no desire to read anymore of it whatsoever and I won't. I will have my accounts deleted in both places and follow the updates with Live by simply checking to see when they might hopefully tour in my neck of the woods. I believe Diane to be wrong on many levels and I've confronted her on them. But what I DO SEE, is that she is simply behaving as any person would who has been ostracized and backed into a corner.

I've spoken my peace and won't be coming back here for a few months whatsoeve and if shit hasn't settled down? A few more. I have not one fucking minute longer for any of this bullshit in my life and I'm not going to tolerate the continued immaturity I see from BOTH sides. So if y'all still want to keep on attacking each other and creating negativity around the resurgence of this band, have fun with it. the inability of many people to let it go, including many of YOU is just fucking unbelieveable to me. See you around sometime soon.
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