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lakinis_juice
post May 17 2006, 2:37 am
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Yeh so let me know, cause here its not doing to well. First week was alright debut at number 4, 2nd week it's now at 29th. EEEEeeeeek! Gee i really hope the tour at the end of the year picks the sales back up, cause i can see this hittin even lower very soon.

BTW hows things in Holland?
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post May 17 2006, 4:53 am
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QUOTE(lakinis_juice @ May 17 2006, 9:37 am) *

BTW hows things in Holland?

Last week #16, this week (the 5th week listed) it is at #20.

The River is at #44 in the MegaTop50 and #25 at the Top40, after 11 and 10 weeks respectively.
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post May 17 2006, 4:56 am
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it's on the bestsellers list at the Free record Shop though...does that count for something?
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post May 17 2006, 8:10 am
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you're killing me........actually it's sony epic that's killing me death.gif
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post May 17 2006, 9:27 am
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QUOTE(sandkind @ May 17 2006, 9:10 am) *

you're killing me........actually it's sony epic that's killing me death.gif

I'd be embarrassed to work for Epic Records in the US seeing how they dropped the ball on SFBM. Especially after next week......
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post May 17 2006, 10:56 am
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ May 17 2006, 7:27 am) *

I'd be embarrassed to work for Epic Records in the US seeing how they dropped the ball on SFBM. Especially after next week......


Frustrating as it is, I don't think pushing back a release date to maximize sales potential constitutes dropping the ball.

Based on the radio popularity of The River, there wouldn't have been a significant amount of people buying the record because of the song had it been released on its original release date. Believe it or not, Epic did do a variety of things to try to push the song, although I do think they could have done more...


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Especially after next week......


What happens next week??
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post May 17 2006, 11:15 am
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QUOTE(edstipe @ May 17 2006, 11:56 am) *

Frustrating as it is, I don't think pushing back a release date to maximize sales potential constitutes dropping the ball.

Based on the radio popularity of The River, there wouldn't have been a significant amount of people buying the record because of the song had it been released on its original release date. Believe it or not, Epic did do a variety of things to try to push the song, although I do think they could have done more...
What happens next week??


They pushed the River to a point then switched release disitribution of the album to Red Ink. After that switch occurred and the album release was pushed to June 13th, all promotion stopped. The single was equal to Teddy Geiger's song before the push ended, Teddy Geiger's song has since taken off. Epic totally stopped the push for whatever reason, politics we will never figure out.

Even if they stopped the push of the single, May 9th release coupled with the tour, would have given the album decent sales. They were in NYC for the original release date and visited Howard Stern. They probably would have visited numerous other shows and stations to give the album strong publicity. The tour covered every major market from NY to LA, and is resulting in 0 sales for Epic right now.

American Idol contestants are allowed to invite their favorite artists to the finale next week. Since LIVE is in LA for a show the same day, it makes perfect sense for Chris to ask them to perform I Walk the Line or any other song from their catalogue on the show. If LIVE could get on the highest rated show of the year, album sales would skyrocket. Unfortunatley for Epic, Awake would be the album that would get the sales increase.

Epic is just totally inept. There is no other way to put it.
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post May 17 2006, 7:58 pm
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SFBM debuted at #21 on the album charts in Canada this week.
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post May 17 2006, 8:29 pm
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QUOTE(NectarDan @ May 17 2006, 8:58 pm) *

SFBM debuted at #21 on the album charts in Canada this week.


Is that good or bad? What was BOP? 21 seems okay to me, but I have no idea.
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post May 17 2006, 11:46 pm
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ May 17 2006, 9:29 pm) *

Is that good or bad? What was BOP? 21 seems okay to me, but I have no idea.

Not very good. BOP debuted at #7 back in 2003.
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post May 17 2006, 11:49 pm
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Epic is owned by Sony.

Sony got busted for payola.

You get the idea.
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post May 18 2006, 7:54 am
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I don't know how accurate this is, but it gives a comprehensive list of Live's chart positions for all their albums:

http://www.rockdetector.com/discography,5293.sm

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post May 18 2006, 8:31 am
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The bright side of all this is no matter that this album is getting minimal promotion in the US-Canada, we are still getting an awesome tour. The band looks like they are having a good time, and we should be getting at least another album out of our boys. I would bet that the next album would be a bit harder since Live looks like it has started catering to its long-time fans of late. I hope they go indy.....being a big fish on a smaller label would be excellent for the guys at this stage of their career.
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post May 18 2006, 11:48 am
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ May 18 2006, 9:31 am) *

The bright side of all this is no matter that this album is getting minimal promotion in the US-Canada, we are still getting an awesome tour. The band looks like they are having a good time, and we should be getting at least another album out of our boys. I would bet that the next album would be a bit harder since Live looks like it has started catering to its long-time fans of late. I hope they go indy.....being a big fish on a smaller label would be excellent for the guys at this stage of their career.


Quoted for agreement nod.gif

Go indy like Morrissey, be the star of the label instead of one of the low sellers of the label. They'd also have more control over their musical direction and be treated better. I think that would be more to their advantage cause they always said they were primarily a touring ( live ) band.

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post May 18 2006, 12:33 pm
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QUOTE(Lively Chick @ May 18 2006, 12:48 pm) *

Quoted for agreement nod.gif

Go indy like Morrissey, be the star of the label instead of one of the low sellers of the label. They'd also have more control over their musical direction and be treated better. I think that would be more to their advantage cause they always said they were primarily a touring ( live ) band.



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