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post Jul 10 2018, 9:20 pm
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Ed speaks about how he wasn't a fan of the band when Chris Shinn was the lead singer. And talks about how there is a lot of good 90s nostalgia-

http://alternativerevolution.net/ed-kowalc...ut-90s-nostalg/


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post Jul 10 2018, 9:23 pm
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I wouldn't be a fan either, if my replacement came in and performed infinitely better than me. I haven't listened to and appreciated The Turn nearly as much as I have since Junk Lounge was dropped. What a narcissistic, insecure move by that coked out wannabe relevant rock star should be creepy yoga instructor.


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post Jul 10 2018, 9:29 pm
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The quote attributed to Ed is pretty old. He certainly didn't say this since he rejoined the band.


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post Jul 11 2018, 4:13 am
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QUOTE(Existentialist @ Jul 11 2018, 4:23 am) *

I wouldn't be a fan either, if my replacement came in and performed infinitely better than me. I haven't listened to and appreciated The Turn nearly as much as I have since Junk Lounge was dropped. What a narcissistic, insecure move by that coked out wannabe relevant rock star should be creepy yoga instructor.


Holy shit, that's a whole lotta negativity.
You realize you are going batshit crazy over a quote that's probably taken out of context?
And even if he said that, he is entitled to his opinion.
Also, there's the fact that Live with Shinn was definately lame on many levels. smile.gif


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post Jul 11 2018, 1:14 pm
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QUOTE(Existentialist @ Jul 10 2018, 7:23 pm) *

I wouldn't be a fan either, if my replacement came in and performed infinitely better than me. I haven't listened to and appreciated The Turn nearly as much as I have since Junk Lounge was dropped. What a narcissistic, insecure move by that coked out wannabe relevant rock star should be creepy yoga instructor.


Existentialist represents our board's inner Id. He says what our soul feels. laugh.gif


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post Jul 11 2018, 9:02 pm
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QUOTE(Lakini's Juice @ Jul 11 2018, 5:13 am) *

Holy shit, that's a whole lotta negativity.


It was, but “creepy yoga instructor” was pretty much dead on.


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post Jul 12 2018, 2:25 pm
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"Really sort of lame"

What do you call SFBM and onward...

Or this performance with the highlight of the interview being:

https://youtu.be/94-lLjCtsTk?t=1m43s

Love Lounge, in my opinion, is worse than anything on The Turn. I have been listening to The Turn almost daily since Love Lounge and I appreciate the effort that was put into making that album. I felt like Chris was really trying and what they did to just "forget" the album was ever made is sad. Shows how insecure Ed is.




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post Jul 13 2018, 5:31 am
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QUOTE(likeido21 @ Jul 12 2018, 9:25 pm) *

"Really sort of lame"

What do you call SFBM and onward...

Or this performance with the highlight of the interview being:

https://youtu.be/94-lLjCtsTk?t=1m43s

Love Lounge, in my opinion, is worse than anything on The Turn. I have been listening to The Turn almost daily since Love Lounge and I appreciate the effort that was put into making that album. I felt like Chris was really trying and what they did to just "forget" the album was ever made is sad. Shows how insecure Ed is.


Are you forgetting they re-recorded some old Live-staples with Chris?
That was pretty lame. Trying to erase him from history.
Chris was still trying to emulate his voice on those tracks + on stage.
Later CCP dumped Chris and went back to Ed.
CCP are collectively a very horrible vindictive ex-girlfriend.




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post Jul 13 2018, 10:40 am
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QUOTE(Lakini's Juice @ Jul 13 2018, 6:31 am) *

Are you forgetting they re-recorded some old Live-staples with Chris?
That was pretty lame. Trying to erase him from history.
Chris was still trying to emulate his voice on those tracks + on stage.
Later CCP dumped Chris and went back to Ed.
CCP are collectively a very horrible vindictive ex-girlfriend.



Hahaha yup, somehow that will be blamed on Ed as well


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post Jul 13 2018, 10:49 am
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QUOTE(Lakini's Juice @ Jul 13 2018, 6:31 am) *

Are you forgetting they re-recorded some old Live-staples with Chris?
That was pretty lame. Trying to erase him from history.
Chris was still trying to emulate his voice on those tracks + on stage.
Later CCP dumped Chris and went back to Ed.
CCP are collectively a very horrible vindictive ex-girlfriend.



And yet Chris still rocked the heck out of The Turn in a way Ed wishes he still could. I would take that lameness again over shooting that fear in deja vu land any day.


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post Jul 13 2018, 2:42 pm
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QUOTE(promiseIma Livefan @ Jul 13 2018, 11:49 am) *

And yet Chris still rocked the heck out of The Turn in a way Ed wishes he still could. I would take that lameness again over shooting that fear in deja vu land any day.



This was probably only for promotional issue, so no big deal. Not Chriss fault if the band was still called Live. And yes, The turn is a solid rock album that I highly doubt Live 3.0 can be on par with it.


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This, for me, has nothing to do with Ed vs CCP. Shame on Ed for sucking anymore. Shame on CCP for many things, including going full crazy borderline on Ed and then reuniting with him and looking like complete fools. Let's bitch about the drums and not being able to write, and then when we reunite bring in a second drummer and let this numbskull write the main riff! What. a. fucking. sham. What. a. bunch. of. fucking. phonies. This whole thing, all of it, and everyone involved, is a complete fucking disgrace, and severely tarnishes the legacy of what, a long, long fucking time ago, was a really great band.

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The Turn bombed on the charts, the band barely toured once the album was released, and Chris Shinn couldn't remember lyrics.

Live 2.0 fell flat.

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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jul 13 2018, 11:08 pm) *
The Turn bombed on the charts, the band barely toured once the album was released, and Chris Shinn couldn't remember lyrics.

Live 2.0 fell flat.


100 percent true except a lot of hardcore Live fans loved songs on The Turn and the live shows.


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post Jul 13 2018, 10:15 pm
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Jul 13 2018, 11:12 pm) *

100 percent true except a lot of hardcore Live fans loved songs on The Turn and the live shows.


That may be true, but the band struggled to draw crowds on the road, and those "hardcore" fans weren't enough to sustain the new version of Live.

Live is still trying to recover from Live 2.0, and the messy split.


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