Um....a red Throwing Copper CD? Excuse me? Options

[swami]

So....first of all, hello. I'm still alive. No longer collecting, as many of you know, BUT...I have been very active on Discogs. Part of this journey is treating every single release in my collection (not just Live, but literally everything) with crazy levels of dedication. This means full top-quality scans of every aspect of a release, full label and company credits, full matrix code stuff....I won't get into the depth of it. If you collect any band at all, you probably get what I'm talking about.

But, at my heart, I've always been a Live collector.....and this one snuck up on me. Even when I ran Live Collector's Resource (livediscography.com) I never mentioned this. Frankly, I just didn't have enough info about it to warrant an entry. But, it DOES exist, and I'm perplexed.

Many years ago, I saw an auction on eBay for a BMG release of Throwing Copper on CD. The auction itself was easy to win for almost no money because it was "disc only". But what got me was the colour. This was a red copy of Throwing Copper. And I don't mean the tray was red. I mean the fucking disc was fucking red

So, I bought it.....and now I've made a Discogs entry about it. But............this is a bit of a mystery item. Does anyone else have a red Throwing Copper?

Here's the URL for the release...........incidentally, I've been very slowly going through my nearly 1,200 Live-related releases and updating them for Discogs, so....over time, if you're a collector.....there may be some better scans and info for items you're looking for


https://www.discogs.com/release/37851405-Li...Throwing-Copper

[Hoodstock]

Cool - never seen that before.

[Merica]

Goot to see you're alive and well, Swami!

Cool to see there is/was a red CD variant. Presumably just a small run for whatever reason.

[swami]

Incidentally, if you ARE a collector, then check out my contribution history on Discogs. A lot of what I've been doing is just adding info to items that were already on livediscography, but there's also a host of new things up there. I try to be as complete as possible when adding/updating

Or, if you're super curious, my collection of all bands/releases is also available. I've got about roughly 2,000 more releases to add, so it's quite incomplete, but....maybe our musical tastes extend beyond Live

[swami]

Upon closer inspection, this is looking more and more like a strange anomaly. On the red disc the words "throwing copper" and the dash above the "i" in Live are the only things in green/olive. Then compare this to a normal copy of the disc....those are the only parts in red

So....total guess here, but I'm thinking this was an accidental palette swap of colours in whatever software was used to assign colours to the final product. Seeing as I had to add it to Discogs myself and seemingly nobody else has really come across a copy like this, I'm guessing it was not intentional, but instead production error. God, I wish there was a way we could talk one-on-one with whoever was in charge of the pressing plant that day. "How many copies like this are there?" "Were you just high?" "Is Mitch McConnell alive?" WE NEED ANSWERS!!!

[OutToDry]

Upon closer inspection, this is looking more and more like a strange anomaly. On the red disc the words "throwing copper" and the dash above the "i" in Live are the only things in green/olive. Then compare this to a normal copy of the disc....those are the only parts in red

So....total guess here, but I'm thinking this was an accidental palette swap of colours in whatever software was used to assign colours to the final product. Seeing as I had to add it to Discogs myself and seemingly nobody else has really come across a copy like this, I'm guessing it was not intentional, but instead production error. God, I wish there was a way we could talk one-on-one with whoever was in charge of the pressing plant that day. "How many copies like this are there?" "Were you just high?" "Is Mitch McConnell alive?" WE NEED ANSWERS!!!

Swami
Look /
Examine the hub/spoke and see where the disc was made. I remember some mfg errors from factory level issues in the 90s. If you see some coatings in the hub area front or back I’d like to know. BMG cds were made primarily in PA and CA through license if this disc was around that time

[swami]

Swami
Look /
Examine the hub/spoke and see where the disc was made. I remember some mfg errors from factory level issues in the 90s. If you see some coatings in the hub area front or back I’d like to know. BMG cds were made primarily in PA and CA through license if this disc was around that time

The mastering SID code (IFPI L009) and mould SID code (IFPI 0321) confirm that this disc was made by Universal Music Group Manufacturing & Logistics Inc. in North Carolina. But so were the other BMG issues of Throwing Copper at the time, with the correct colour palette. So, same plant....why this abrupt change in colour? I'm totally going Unsolved Mysteries on this one now