Freaks4live.com - Whole Songs Up Options

[OutToDry]

sorry i posted it,.....guess i am a bit pissed off.

[+Ed+]

No probs mate

[World Dreamer]

maybe the freaks4live post was by someone else.... hmmmmm Now, who's the known CT hater and basher here....

Not out of the question. Just look at all the buzzwords the mdvb poster uses. Almost like it was cut and pasted from here.

[thefunkyredcaboose]

Hard to believe someone would waste their time writing that.

[PillarOfDavidson]

It's strange that there are folks decreeing the demise of the band without Ed while at the same time being pissed off about the band continuing on without Ed. Either the band is dead or it's continuing on. But it can't be both those things at the same time, can it?

[+AllOverMe+]

Holy shit, that MVDB is a bigger Live hater than Nick...

[briburge]

reading this makes me wonder if he was ever a fan of the band......
maybe the freaks4live post was by someone else.... hmmmmm Now, who's the known CT hater and basher here....

R u hinting it's nick? If so, why is it everytime someone likes Ed or is not excited about live moving forward without ed they are either nick in disguise or not a true live fan?

[sellingthdrama]

Slightly "off-topic" based on the latest posts, but I just popped onto freaks4live.com and listened to the songs again, and found myself singing out loud again. I can't help myself. I feel inspired... this is what I've been missing for oh so oh so many years. It's wonderful.

[World Dreamer]

R u hinting it's nick? If so, why is it everytime someone likes Ed or is not excited about live moving forward without ed they are either nick in disguise or not a true live fan?

Nick doesn't just "like Ed and is not excited about Live moving forward without Ed". Nick HATES CCP and ANYONE they come in contact with. Nick hopes beyond all hope that CCP fail and that Live, sans Ed, fails.

We all give Ed shit, sure. But if you look at his newest thread about new Ed music, there are many that are willing to give it a listen and are actually HOPING Ed gets a little more rock into his songs. They are ROOTING for him to do it.

Where, at ANY point, has Nick shown ANY support for CCP? Or KM? Or TGF? Or Shinn? Or Live?

This post has been edited by World Dreamer: Mar 30 2012, 3:10 pm

[FishOutaWater]

Here's the thing. With rare exceptions, nobody posting messages on the internet actually knows Ed or CCP.** These people choose sides based on loyalties and the idea that they know and "like" Ed or whatever. It's funny - these battles over sides are stuck in the very trap that Ed sang about 20 years ago - "I have chosen these anthems of these I am proud. Portraits of a divided crowd." Nick and MVDB don't actually know these people who are members of Live, yet they battle for Ed's honor as if they know him and need to back him up, or attack CCP for what they think they are doing or what they think motivates them. It is delusional to take up battles over the actions and motives of people you don't even know. With a few limited exceptions, we are just a bunch of people out here in the public who listen to music and like this band or Ed. So the only thing that we have any justification in defending and commenting on is the music. And even in that limited space, we only have the authority to express our opinion, our views and reviews of the music - and not state opinion like it is some objective fact.

For me:

1. Live was great with all 4 guys in the bad until the end of the 20th century
2. then Live sucked when Ed took over, with a few exceptions where we know for a fact that CCP had input on the songs
3. then Ed went solo and his solo album stinks
4. then CCP made The Gracious Few, which was awesome
5. now CCP restarted Live with a new lead singer and the shows were awesome and the 4 re-recordings are awesome

I really don't need to study the trends in those statements for very long in order to reach some easy conclusoins about my musical preference and where I will choose to focus my attention. If Ed makes some great music again, I may take notice. Until then, I am a fan of what TGF and Live are doing.


** Interestingly, the few people that actually do know these people personally have chosen loyalty to CCP, and I don't know of any supporter of Ed that posts messages on the internet in support of Ed who actually knows Ed.

This post has been edited by FishOutaWater: Mar 30 2012, 3:15 pm

[OutToDry]

R u hinting it's nick? If so, why is it everytime someone likes Ed or is not excited about live moving forward without ed they are either nick in disguise or not a true live fan?

The slandering attacks are rediculous. That post was not as simple as not being excited. Call spade a spade.

[briburge]

The slandering attacks are rediculous. That post was not as simple as not being excited. Call spade a spade.

U come dangerously close to doing the same but have greater fansoflive numbers on your side

[Badman]

True... why doesn't Ed have anyone who knows him in real life who would back him up on the internet?

If I was Ed I would at least thank nick for hosting the facebook page for him.

[briburge]

True... why doesn't Ed have anyone who knows him in real life who would back him up on the internet?

If I was Ed I would at least thank nick for hosting the facebook page for him.

They may have lives unlike us

[themaestro]

The slandering attacks are rediculous. That post was not as simple as not being excited. Call spade a spade.

Who cares anymore. This is all too predictable. Bitter Ed fans trying to dampen the spirit around Live. It's not even worth responding to. Live has clearly moved on. The ultimate response is in what Live has shown the past two shows. That's why these people are coming out of the woodwork.