He got the message, about being better off sticking with acoustic Options

[FishOutaWater]

I have read that Live could quote an appearance fee of $75,000 on a good day. I have also read that Ed can quote $35,000 on a good day. So let's break it down. Live would have to pay their tour manager and road crew. They would have to pay expenses for transporting a ton of equipment, pay for the lighting rig, sound board and people to operate all of that. They would pay for a tour bus. Then they would split the net profit by 4 and Ed would get a fourth. What does that come out to for a show? Maybe $12,000? Now let's say that Ed can get $35,000 for an acoustic show. Maybe that is a little bit high. Let's say he can get $30,000. He get's off a Southwest Airlines Wanna Get Away flight for $150, with his guitar in the luggage compartment. He rents a Chevy Malibu and shows up at the venue that keeps a simple sound board and an overhead spotlight in the broom closet. He probably sells enough "merch" to cover a chunk of his expenses, and he goes home with almost $30,000 in his pocket for the show. It's good business. He has made Live portable and cost effective and he can bring it to he fans in corners of the world that Live could never tour in.

I've seen Ed's acoustic show twice. I enjoyed it. I love Ed's vocals. I would never see him with his Alive Session Groovesters. But even with the acoustic show - I enjoyed it like you would enjoy going back to Disney World as a teenager as opposed to going when you were 6. Seeing Live with old Ed was like going to Disney World when you were 6. Amazing. It was the real experience. When you were 6, you were in awe to see Mickey Mouse and the Magic Kingdom and you fully enjoyed the real magical experience. As a teenager, you go to Disney Land because you are clinging to the memory of the magic you felt when it was real as a 6 year old. Nostalgia. Reliving memories. Honoring the institution. Reliving the experience you had when you were 6 like a pilgrimage. And if you are lucky, some of that magical feeling might come over you briefly while you are there.

This post has been edited by FishOutaWater: Feb 28 2012, 10:19 am

[PurdueSteve]

I have read that Live could quote an appearance fee of $75,000 on a good day. I have also read that Ed can quote $35,000 on a good day. So let's break it down. Live would have to pay their tour manager and road crew. They would have to pay expenses for transporting a ton of equipment, pay for the lighting rig, sound board and people to operate all of that. They would pay for a tour bus. Then they would split the net profit by 4 and Ed would get a fourth. What does that come out to for a show? Maybe $12,000? Now let's say that Ed can get $35,000 for an acoustic show. Maybe that is a little bit high. Let's say he can get $30,000. He get's off a Southwest Airlines Wanna Get Away flight for $150, with his guitar in the luggage compartment. He rents a Chevy Malibu and shows up at the venue that keeps a simple sound board and an overhead spotlight in the broom closet. He probably sells enough "merch" to cover a chunk of his expenses, and he goes home with almost $30,000 in his pocket for the show. It's good business. He has made Live portable and cost effective and he can bring it to he fans in corners of the world that Live could never tour in.

I've seen Ed's acoustic show twice. I enjoyed it. I love Ed's vocals. I would never see him with his Alive Session Groovesters. But even with the acoustic show - I enjoyed it like you would enjoy going back to Disney World as a teenager as opposed to going when you were 6. Seeing Live with old Ed was like going to Disney World when you were 6. Amazing. It was the real experience. When you were 6, you were in awe to see Mickey Mouse and the Magic Kingdom and you fully enjoyed the real magical experience. As a teenager, you go to Disney Land because you are clinging to the memory of the magic you felt when it was real as a 6 year old. Nostalgia. Reliving memories. Honoring the institution. Reliving the experience you had when you were 6 like a pilgrimage. And if you are lucky, some of that magical feeling might come over you briefly while you are there.

I doubt he can pull $30,000 for an acoustic gig unless some of these gigs are just much bigger than what I've seen. Seems like most acoustic gigs are just 200 hundred to 300 hundred people, no? Even if it was 500 people, at $35 a ticket = $17,500 - minus venue cut (if any), processing fees, and the minimal overhead.

Still though, he can travel around with just his acoustic guitar and even if only getting $10,000 a night, it's not a bad deal at all.

+1 on everything else you said.

The only thing I don't like about this tour is the lame ass stupid hypocritical (I'm moving on into my solo career) title. The "I alone" tour, really? Gimme a break!

[OutToDry]

Eddie K should listen to the hardened advice of the most loyal longtime Live fans....perhaps this is what he needs to understand what his success was truly about !!

This post has been edited by OutToDry: Feb 28 2012, 2:37 pm

[dancing queen]

When he named his album "Alive" I did my best to give him the benefit of the doubt - especially after I heard it (and how much it's Christian rock) and it's clear he's "born again" - Alive seemed appropriate and I was willing to pretend it was a ridiculous happy accident (I know, I know, I delude myself).

Again, I understand that he will, in fact, be alone, so "I, Alone" (the comma is there in my mind) makes sense... but COME ON, ED!!!!

what has he said in interviews? it was stagnant? he needed to move on, spread wings, broaden horizons, whatever? BS, Ed.

Pisses me off, too, because I thoroughly enjoyed his acoustic show and was hoping to see another.
And now I can't go on principle. Ugh.

[Pokey]

And yet there are still people here who see him saying how he wants to change and move on as genuine and wonder why he cops so much shit! He just keeps giving us ammo like this.

[mfitz804]

Wow. What a desperate attempt to cling to his former glory. I happen to like Ed, I even like his new material, but to go out there on the "I Alone" tour just reeks of being unable to stand on his own two feet. Which is rather ironic if you think about it.

[SJN1279]

Wow. What a desperate attempt to cling to his former glory. I happen to like Ed, I even like his new material, but to go out there on the "I Alone" tour just reeks of being unable to stand on his own two feet. Which is rather ironic if you think about it.

And what do you call reforming LIVE with a new singer?

[Pokey]

And what do you call reforming LIVE with a new singer?

...Live

[World Dreamer]

And what do you call reforming LIVE with a new singer?

This thread is about Ed. It is not about the band that Ed is no longer in.

[PurdueSteve]

He should have called it the "I am still Alive" tour!!

[zmanpga]

solo will be good

This post has been edited by zmanpga: Feb 29 2012, 11:18 am

[themaestro]

And what do you call reforming LIVE with a new singer?

They never said they were moving on from Live like he did. He's becoming a pathetic figure at this point. He should have called it Selling the Drama.

[FishOutaWater]

He should have named it the "Call Me A Fool" Tour.

[themaestro]

He should have named it the "Call Me A Fool" Tour.

[thefunkyredcaboose]

Or "Tired of "Me""