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post Feb 21 2012, 2:01 pm
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QUOTE(Aitkens @ Feb 21 2012, 1:35 pm) *

No he most certainly did not respond correctly. Correctly would have been saying, "Thank you" and leaving it at that.


I disagree. Simply saying "thank you" might work in a public place. But this was Ed's 'room' after his show. Seems as if Ed saw the potential for something to materalize, and he decided it would be best to remove the catalyst. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.



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post Feb 21 2012, 2:09 pm
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QUOTE(themaestro @ Feb 21 2012, 1:56 pm) *

You'll have to ask him that. But he's obviously very close to them and wanted to pass on a message only to be rebuffed just as they have been. Doesn't matter what the venue is, the response is always the same.


Then give up on the insanity. Move on. I thought CC&P have been very clear that they are doing just that. Didnt Chad write a letter or FB message or something along those lines asking the fans to respect the fact that Live is moving on, Ed is moving on, enjoy the music, etc? I am confident that someone here will correct me if I am off on that..

I would like to think that CC&P's methods of reaching out to Ed would be better planned than to try to reach him at his own meet & greet. I am confident they have more sense than that.

Say hello to the man, ask him about his music, tell him you enjoyed the show, etc, but dont introduce yourself as someone who is friends and business partners with 3 guys he's currently in a fued with. That just has trouble written all over it.


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post Feb 21 2012, 2:28 pm
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QUOTE(jclive @ Feb 21 2012, 3:09 pm) *

Then give up on the insanity. Move on. I thought CC&P have been very clear that they are doing just that. Didnt Chad write a letter or FB message or something along those lines asking the fans to respect the fact that Live is moving on, Ed is moving on, enjoy the music, etc? I am confident that someone here will correct me if I am off on that..

I would like to think that CC&P's methods of reaching out to Ed would be better planned than to try to reach him at his own meet & greet. I am confident they have more sense than that.

Say hello to the man, ask him about his music, tell him you enjoyed the show, etc, but dont introduce yourself as someone who is friends and business partners with 3 guys he's currently in a fued with. That just has trouble written all over it.

I think they have moved on professionally but they should just give up the fact that they were practically family for over 20 years? They are showing reverence for EK and have wished him well in his new endeavors. You'd think maybe he could do the same. Like The Thrill said, promote some healing. What is wrong with that and what does the time or place have to do with it?


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post Feb 21 2012, 2:43 pm
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QUOTE(themaestro @ Feb 21 2012, 2:28 pm) *

I think they have moved on professionally but they should just give up the fact that they were practically family for over 20 years? They are showing reverence for EK and have wished him well in his new endeavors. You'd think maybe he could do the same. Like The Thrill said, promote some healing. What is wrong with that and what does the time or place have to do with it?


People have fights, and sometimes the rift doesnt heal. That's ok. It sucks for those of us who dont want it to be that way, but its not our decision. I think its great that Chad came out and wished Ed the best in his direction. I also think it would be great if Ed were to do the same. He could do the same. So far he's chosen not to. Not our decision.

Healing is great. It gives us all the warm & fuzzies, right? But there is no one here who will determine the time and the place for that to happen. If there is one, it will be determined by Ed and the guys.

This particular situation is a pretty easy one for me. Dont go into someone else's house 'representing' someone who isnt currently welcome there. You'll be politely asked to leave.


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post Feb 21 2012, 2:49 pm
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QUOTE(jclive @ Feb 21 2012, 2:43 pm) *

People have fights, and sometimes the rift doesnt heal. That's ok. It sucks for those of us who dont want it to be that way, but its not our decision. I think its great that Chad came out and wished Ed the best in his direction. I also think it would be great if Ed were to do the same. He could do the same. So far he's chosen not to. Not our decision.

Healing is great. It gives us all the warm & fuzzies, right? But there is no one here who will determine the time and the place for that to happen. If there is one, it will be determined by Ed and the guys.

This particular situation is a pretty easy one for me. Dont go into someone else's house 'representing' someone who isnt currently welcome there. You'll be politely asked to leave.

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post Feb 21 2012, 3:05 pm
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QUOTE(jclive @ Feb 21 2012, 3:43 pm) *

People have fights, and sometimes the rift doesnt heal. That's ok. It sucks for those of us who dont want it to be that way, but its not our decision. I think its great that Chad came out and wished Ed the best in his direction. I also think it would be great if Ed were to do the same. He could do the same. So far he's chosen not to. Not our decision.

Healing is great. It gives us all the warm & fuzzies, right? But there is no one here who will determine the time and the place for that to happen. If there is one, it will be determined by Ed and the guys.

This particular situation is a pretty easy one for me. Dont go into someone else's house 'representing' someone who isnt currently welcome there. You'll be politely asked to leave.

If it's healing that was on his mind or their mind I don't think the venue even came into thought, only a chance to see Ed. As it was, he honored Ed's wishes and left. Wouldn't you feel spurned though? I would. There is always time for healing. Ed isn't interested. That's fine. But it has nothing to do with the venue and everything to do with Ed not being interested.


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post Feb 21 2012, 3:25 pm
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QUOTE(themaestro @ Feb 21 2012, 3:05 pm) *

If it's healing that was on his mind or their mind I don't think the venue even came into thought, only a chance to see Ed. As it was, he honored Ed's wishes and left. Wouldn't you feel spurned though? I would. There is always time for healing. Ed isn't interested. That's fine. But it has nothing to do with the venue and everything to do with Ed not being interested.


You phrase that as if you feel that this fan/friend/representative of CC&P/whatever you want to call him was in any position to have HIS wishes honored as well. He was not, as he was in someone else's proverbial 'house'. I would not feel spurned at being rejected by a 'rock-star' with whom I was trying to catch some private time. If he was my friend, then yes, I would probably feel a little slighted. But if he was my friend, I would have also known to approach a topic like that in private, not at my friends after-show celebration.

It has everything to do with both Ed's lack of interest, the place, and I'm sure other things to which we arent privy.


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QUOTE(jclive @ Feb 21 2012, 4:25 pm) *

You phrase that as if you feel that this fan/friend/representative of CC&P/whatever you want to call him was in any position to have HIS wishes honored as well. He was not, as he was in someone else's proverbial 'house'. I would not feel spurned at being rejected by a 'rock-star' with whom I was trying to catch some private time. If he was my friend, then yes, I would probably feel a little slighted. But if he was my friend, I would have also known to approach a topic like that in private, not at my friends after-show celebration.

It has everything to do with both Ed's lack of interest, the place, and I'm sure other things to which we arent privy.

The guy was escorted out by security for attempting to promote some healing. That's rather extreme. I'd feel spurned whether I knew Ed personally or not. In this case, Ed knew this guy was close to ccp and he chose to overreact.


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QUOTE(themaestro @ Feb 21 2012, 3:44 pm) *

The guy was escorted out by security for attempting to promote some healing. That's rather extreme. I'd feel spurned whether I knew Ed personally or not. In this case, Ed knew this guy was close to ccp and he chose to overreact.


Ed didnt know this guy from a hole in the ground. I could walk up to Ed tomorrow and tell him that I am close personal friends and business partners with CC&P. It wouldnt be true, but Ed wouldnt have any reason to know if it was, or wasnt.

Security asked him to leave, per his story, and he left without incident.


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QUOTE(jclive @ Feb 21 2012, 4:49 pm) *

Ed didnt know this guy from a hole in the ground. I could walk up to Ed tomorrow and tell him that I am close personal friends and business partners with CC&P. It wouldnt be true, but Ed wouldnt have any reason to know if it was, or wasnt.

Security asked him to leave, per his story, and he left without incident.

Exactly. Anyone with a perceived connection to CCP would have been asked to leave no matter what their intent. Rather extreme


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QUOTE(themaestro @ Feb 21 2012, 2:44 pm) *

The guy was escorted out by security for attempting to promote some healing. That's rather extreme. I'd feel spurned whether I knew Ed personally or not. In this case, Ed knew this guy was close to ccp and he chose to overreact.


to promote some healing lol what a crock! quit trying to sugar coat this for christs sake. Chad Chad and Pat are big boys they can reach out to Ed on their own and they know how to get ahold of him if they want to. they don't need to send some guy into an after show party to do it for them. thrill still hasn't answered the question on this.


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QUOTE(brett @ Feb 21 2012, 5:01 pm) *

to promote some healing lol what a crock! quit trying to sugar coat this for christs sake. Chad Chad and Pat are big boys they can reach out to Ed on their own and they know how to get ahold of him if they want to. they don't need to send some guy into an after show party to do it for them. thrill still hasn't answered the question on this.

He said he was trying to promote some healing. He's a business partner of theirs. I assume they talk. What more do you want?


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QUOTE(themaestro @ Feb 21 2012, 3:59 pm) *

Exactly. Anyone with a perceived connection to CCP would have been asked to leave no matter what their intent. Rather extreme


What's extreme about not wanting a potential conflict to materalize at a function that has nothing to do with the topic the question-asker is wanting to bring up? Couple that with the fact that this person has no business being in the middle of his personal business, and I'm surprised it ended as peacefully as it did. Like I said before, kudos to all involved.

Had the Thrill simply spoken to Ed instead of name-dropping 3 people he is currently arguing with, he would have had his ear for more than that quick moment. The pubic and private lives of those more famous than us are separate for a reason. Or at least they should be.



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QUOTE(themaestro @ Feb 21 2012, 3:06 pm) *

He said he was trying to promote some healing. He's a business partner of theirs. I assume they talk. What more do you want?


cause it's bullshit. i'm sorry I'm not as gullible as you.


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QUOTE(brett @ Feb 21 2012, 5:20 pm) *

cause it's bullshit. i'm sorry I'm not as gullible as you.

Tell us more mr bs detector


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