Uncasville, CT (Wolf Den @ Mohegan Sun), July 19, 2012 Options

[Good_Pain]

Seriously Nick I find your idol worship scary when it comes to EK. If EK is touting his new found or renewed Christian faith I see you consistently are breaking one of the Commandments. As far as the acts playing there I still hold to my comments considering this is the headline used to sell people on coming to watch a show:

Wolf Den Nights Devoted To Diverse High Energy Music

Located in the center of the action, in Casino of the Earth, the Wolf Den offers full beverage service, a state-of-the-art sound system, intimate seating and top performances by entertainers like Pop Evil, Mindi Abair and Jordin Sparks - and it's all free!

[SJN1279]

Halestrom & BSC are playing at the arena not wolfs den

http://www.mohegansun.com/entertainment/sc...-of-events.html

Nick, shut the fuck up about Kevin, He's fully on board with CC&P There you go spewing your vile hate again. You're making a name for yourself. You should go into hiding, or at least join up as the new heel for Vince McMahon.

You came into an Ed tour thread with snide remarks. Halestorm and Blackstone Cherry have both played the Wolf Den in the past.

No matter what Kevin Martin said, he was never fully on board with CCP. He was always playing Candlebox shows to pad his wallet, while the rest of the guys were sitting on the sidelines waiting for him. I said it from the beginning, it was ill-advised to try to start up a new band with a frontman already committed to another band.

The Gracious Few needed 100 percent committment from all members to get off the ground. What they had was a lead singer who saw a money-losing venture and got out of dodge within 6 months of their album release.

[Aitkens]

You came into an Ed tour thread with snide remarks.

Hey look a pot calling a kettle black. You do the same exact thing in both Live threads and TGF threads.

[themaestro]

No matter what Kevin Martin said, he was never fully on board with CCP. He was always playing Candlebox shows to pad his wallet, while the rest of the guys were sitting on the sidelines waiting for him. I said it from the beginning, it was ill-advised to try to start up a new band with a frontman already committed to another band.

The Gracious Few needed 100 percent committment from all members to get off the ground. What they had was a lead singer who saw a money-losing venture and got out of dodge within 6 months of their album release.

You are completely wrong. Kevin said from day one that CB was his wife and TGF was his mistress. While he did allude to devoting more time to TGF in the beginning, make no mistake, he never said he was going to leave his wife or have two wives. CB has always been his main priority, with TGF being a fun diversion. He has stated as much on many, many occasions. Saying he did it to pad his wallet is just ridiculous. All of them did it strictly for the love of music. Period, end of story.

[SJN1279]

You are completely wrong. Kevin said from day one that CB was his wife and TGF was his mistress. While he did allude to devoting more time to TGF in the beginning, make no mistake, he never said he was going to leave his wife or have two wives. CB has always been his main priority, with TGF being a fun diversion. He has stated as much on many, many occasions. Saying he did it to pad his wallet is just ridiculous. All of them did it strictly for the love of music. Period, end of story.

http://www.getreadytorock.com/rock_stars/gracious_few.htm
February 2011

Kevin Martin:

Candlebox are still around doing records, but its not the love of my life, it's the ex-wife I keep paying Child Support to, and I am loving the mistress I have - who is sexy and doing whatever she wants - so why go backwards?

No-one goes back to their ex-wife and if they do they're just a shell of a man, and I don't want to be like that. I'm still making records with Candlebox but The Gracious Few is my love and focus.

[Pokey]

You came into an Ed tour thread with snide remarks. Halestorm and Blackstone Cherry have both played the Wolf Den in the past.

But ... but ... I don't understand! How is it that you have a problem with this, yet your snide comments in Live and TGF areas are fine? I admit, its best we stay out of this area, I don't care what Ed is doing, but dude, come on.

This is why having Nick restricted to only posting in the Ed area, and a bunch of us restricted to not being able to post in the Ed area, would straighten everything out!

Also as for your Kevin Martin comment, you have absolutely nothing to base that on. Again, if CCP and KM have both stated they're still planning on working together in the future then what the hell makes you think you know better? How the hell does your wife put up with you?:

Nick: And where were you?
Mrs Nick: Out doing the shopping, see, here are the groceries.
Nick: No you weren't, you were seeing someone else!
Mrs Nick: No .. I was shopping, see, here's the receipt, I was only gone 20mins and bumped into your parents while I was there, they can tell you they saw me.
Nick: No, sorry, you weren't shopping.

That is basically what it comes down to, you are outright told the way something is and just refuse to accept it. Idiot.

This post has been edited by Pokey: Dec 30 2011, 10:42 am

[themaestro]

http://www.getreadytorock.com/rock_stars/gracious_few.htm
February 2011

Kevin Martin:

Candlebox are still around doing records, but its not the love of my life, it's the ex-wife I keep paying Child Support to, and I am loving the mistress I have - who is sexy and doing whatever she wants - so why go backwards?

No-one goes back to their ex-wife and if they do they're just a shell of a man, and I don't want to be like that. I'm still making records with Candlebox but The Gracious Few is my love and focus.

Once again scouring the internet to cut and paste something to fit your argument. I heard and read KM refer to CB as his wife and TGF as his mistress at least 10 times. Maybe he was misquoted. Maybe he changed his tune. Whatever, I don't think he ever gave the impression that TGF was a priority over CB.

[SJN1279]

Also as for your Kevin Martin comment, you have absolutely nothing to base that on. Again, if CCP and KM have both stated they're still planning on working together in the future then what the hell makes you think you know better? How the hell does your wife put up with you?:

They were originally supposed to tour Summer 2011, but had to take the summer off because Candlebox wanted to tour. They then announced they will be doing shows in Fall 2011, but that never happened either.

Candlebox is releasing a new album in 2012, and The Gracious is on the far back burner. Their first album is all but dead, and there doesn't look to be a follow-up any time soon. If you are a fan of TGF, you would have to be at least a little disappointed after all the hype and promises.

[Pokey]

Once again scouring the internet to cut and paste something to fit your argument. I heard and read KM refer to CB as his wife and TGF as his mistress at least 10 times. Maybe he was misquoted. Maybe he changed his tune. Whatever, I don't think he ever gave the impression that TGF was a priority over CB.

Hell the song Guilty Fever is said to in itself be about "cheating on Candlebox with TGF", TGF gives him the guilty fever, the mistress he'll keep going back to.

[Pokey]

They were originally supposed to tour Summer 2011, but had to take the summer off because Candlebox wanted to tour. They then announced they will be doing shows in Fall 2011, but that never happened either.

Candlebox is releasing a new album in 2012, and The Gracious is on the far back burner. Their first album is all but dead, and there doesn't look to be a follow-up any time soon. If you are a fan of TGF, you would have to be at least a little disappointed after all the hype and promises.

for fuck's sake, PLANS CHANGE! You are following one man who controls everything with an Iron fist, what he says goes, if someone elses plans don't fit in, he replaces them and sticks to it. You are now dealing with 5 individuals who are essential to the one band, no session musos to be replaced. They all have separate lives and 2 bands to run, sometimes things change and plans change.

Again, why does this concern you? You realise what kind of a prat you look basically gloating in this?

[World Dreamer]

They were originally supposed to tour Summer 2011, but had to take the summer off because Candlebox wanted to tour. They then announced they will be doing shows in Fall 2011, but that never happened either.

Candlebox is releasing a new album in 2012, and The Gracious is on the far back burner. Their first album is all but dead, and there doesn't look to be a follow-up any time soon. If you are a fan of TGF, you would have to be at least a little disappointed after all the hype and promises.

I'd rather get the TGF album, hype, and unfulfilled promises than get a new EK album, on time, with a free bag of coffee.

What am I thinking? Ed would NEVER give out free ANYTHING.

[themaestro]

Hell the song Guilty Fever is said to in itself be about "cheating on Candlebox with TGF", TGF gives him the guilty fever, the mistress he'll keep going back to.

Yeah, TGF can't really be his mistress unless CB is his wife.

[OutToDry]

for fuck's sake, PLANS CHANGE! You are following one man who controls everything with an Iron fist, what he says goes, if someone elses plans don't fit in, he replaces them and sticks to it. You are now dealing with 5 individuals who are essential to the one band, no session musos to be replaced. They all have separate lives and 2 bands to run, sometimes things change and plans change.

Again, why does this concern you? You realise what kind of a prat you look basically gloating in this?

[dangum]

FYI - this is a free show according to Ed's Facebook page. Is anybody going to check it out?

[SinfulEyes]

FYI - this is a free show according to Ed's Facebook page. Is anybody going to check it out?

Why are so many of his shows free?