I believe, ... Options

[OutToDry]

here's a better one aimed at the Aaron person....why do people post that shit??

LIVE Dear Mr. Wood - It's been hard to move this band forward without Ed. I don't feel too different than you. We battle our past verses our future every day. Ed is making music. Go buy it. Get involved. Like it or not, we remain support of each of our efforts to define themselves inside LIVE or out. I refuse to let your negative aggression take away from our efforts to make new music. Frankly, you have never been a fan of LIVE if you don't see the value in taking the spirit of this music forward. We are here. We have the passion. Hopefully, the music will prove me right - CT

[dangum]

here's a better one aimed at the Aaron person....why do people post that shit??

Would you mind posting the original message? Facebook is blocked at my work...

[Bremang]

Would you mind posting the original message? Facebook is blocked at my work...

I think he just said no Ed, no Live.

[OutToDry]

Aaron Wood No Ed... No live

Esther‎@ Aaron Wood...Really?

Aaron Wood..really. they should stand up for love and overcome their differences.

Esther W.. I'm with you on that, for the love of friendship...but life does not always work like that...

LIVE Aaron Aaron, when you can get Ed to speak us then MAYBE we could work it out. In the meantime we are moving on. Thanks for your sage advice and support. CG

LIVE And thanks to everyone else for your support! You all ROCK! CG

K. St C- Good on ya Chad.
Adam B- Really excited for the new stuff! Give us some sneak peaks!

Mark as SpamToni Masullo Rauschkolb Who's better than CG? No one!

Michael S- Can't wait to hear finally hear new rock music from Live. Its been WAY too long. Thanks, CG!

LIVE Dear Mr. Wood - It's been hard to move this band forward without Ed. I don't feel too different than you. We battle our past verses our future every day. Ed is making music. Go buy it. Get involved. Like it or not, we remain support of each of our efforts to define themselves inside LIVE or out. I refuse to let your negative aggression take away from our efforts to make new music. Frankly, you have never been a fan of LIVE if you don't see the value in taking the spirit of this music forward. We are here. We have the passion. Hopefully, the music will prove me right - CT

[Bremang]

here's a better one aimed at the Aaron person....why do people post that shit??

He, and many other people, post this kind of thing because many casual fans had initially become of fan of the band as a fan of Ed, and they figure Ed to be an indispensable component of Live. Some of them feel Ed is indispensable because they're actually fans of what Ed has done in the past 10 years also. Either that, or they really want to keep their old Live family in tact - like Fish. When I think about it, I can't imagine a more obvious comment to make about Live without Ed. Only a minority of fans are going to know the band well enough to even consider that Live is going to be spirited on by CCP, much less agree with it.

This post has been edited by Bremang: Sep 28 2011, 8:42 pm

[OutToDry]

that's a good point Bre. The late coming Live fans only have from point X to judge from....and this period is when the musical direction changed, C&C&P were stepping back beacuse Ed wanted more of the spotlight. A mistake as a lot of us feel. Hopefully all the millions who came to love them pre TDTH will get the word.

[tiger]

He, and many other people, post this kind of thing because many casual fans had initially become of fan of the band as a fan of Ed, and they figure Ed to be an indispensable component of Live. Some of them feel Ed is indispensable because they're actually fans of what Ed has done in the past 10 years also. Either that, or they just want to keep their old Live family in tact - like Fish. When I think about it, I can't imagine a more obvious comment to make about Live without Ed. Only a minority of fans are going to know the band well enough to even consider that Live is going to be spirited on by CCP, much less agree with it.

It's pretty selfish and childish to tell a band that they do not exist. This person doesn't even realize how insignificant their opinion is. This type of behavior only serves one person, themselves.

[Bremang]

that's a good point Bre. The late coming Live fans only have from point X to judge from....and this period is when the musical direction changed, C&C&P were stepping back beacuse Ed wanted more of the spotlight. A mistake as a lot of us feel. Hopefully all the millions who came to love them pre TDTH will get the word.

If they want to get back to where they were, I think they're going to have to bring the music like TC and SS. The old fans probably won't even be on board without old Ed really. I think most people will have to approach this as a brand new thing. I don't even know what it would take for them to reach 12 year olds today like they they had done back with TC......They need a string of huge hit singles. And since they don't have MTV, they're going to need the clear channel / youtube treatment.

This post has been edited by Bremang: Sep 28 2011, 8:55 pm

[OutToDry]

that's what they're doing. TC & SS style I don't think they're trying to reach 12 year olds today. Our generation is the audience of choice. If they get some new young fans, bonus. What was given privy to hear was SS-esque (new)

[Bremang]

It's pretty selfish and childish to tell a band that they do not exist. This person doesn't even realize how insignificant their opinion is. This type of behavior only serves one person, themselves.

Why is it selfish, childish, and insignificant for him to make that comment? Do you think that giving praise is the only mature and significant response, and that doing so is not self serving in most cases? What makes this guys comment less significant? It seems to have gotten a response from the band.

[Bremang]

that's what they're doing. TC & SS style I don't think they're trying to reach 12 year olds today. Our generation is the audience of choice. If they get some new young fans, bonus. What was given privy to hear was SS-esque (new)

Well.....that I've got to hear. Based on that I'm going to say we're looking at Shinn too.......because i think you have been very pro Shinn (though i might be mistaken), and have now confirmed that you heard some new Live....I'm assuming you heard a new track with shinn's vocals.........I could be way off......maybe we're we're not looking at Shinn.

This post has been edited by Bremang: Sep 28 2011, 9:24 pm

[tiger]

Why is it selfish, childish, and insignificant for him to make that comment? Do you think that giving praise is the only mature and significant response, and that doing so is not self serving in most cases? What makes this guys comment less significant? It seems to have gotten a response from the band.

It's completely insignificant in that his comments are only about his definition of what Live is. No one determines that other than the band members themselves. They started with an idea before they ever played a note together and I can assure you they have never defined their band by what a fan thinks, positive or negative. Although CT and CG responded they both rendered his comments as insignificant.

[Bremang]

It's completely insignificant in that his comments are only about his definition of what Live is. No one determines that other than the band members themselves. They started with an idea before they ever played a note together and I can assure you they have never defined their band by what a fan thinks, positive or negative. Although CT and CG responded they both rendered his comments as insignificant.

Well that is quite the theory.

Another common idea is that a band puts music or themselves out there.....and then each person assigns their own meaning to what it is.....that there actually are others besides the band members who determine what something is?? ?? ??

As far as what you say about defining the band by what a fan thinks....I think you are wrong. I think they've thought about what fans think, and it has helped define the band.

This post has been edited by Bremang: Sep 28 2011, 9:38 pm

[Aitkens]

Imagine spending your entire life being part of a group. That group succeeded, and did very big things. A member of the group left, and now people are telling you that everything you did in your life was insignificant, and that your contribution to the group was ultimately nothing and insignificant compared to the member that left. I think you'd be upset by those comments.

That's why I think these people need to show a little respect and bite their tongues. Their rude comments are only devaluing the contribution of 3 band members. Sit back, keep your mouth shut and wait for the music. If you ultimately don't like it, that's fine. Just give it a damn shot first.

[tiger]

Well that is quite the theory.

Another common idea is that a band puts music or themselves out there.....and then each person assigns their own meaning to what it is.....that there actually are others besides the band members who determine what something is?? ?? ??

As far as what you say about defining the band by what a fan thinks....I think you are wrong. I think they've thought about what fans think, and it has helped define the band.

Theory? That's no theory. Live is moving forward with their definition of what the band is, not someone's who can only accept it as they see it. It's expected that fans will assign their own definition of what it means to them but to then tell the band "how it is" is just ridiculous. Sorry fans, it's not that way. As far as thinking about what fans think, sure they do. I'm sure it has an impact on the appreciation they show and how they interact with fans. They just don't define their music by it.