V vs SFBM 2:, lyrical comparisons Options

[LiveRoCkS77]

I have said it often. V, for me, gets a pass because of what it was supposed to be and what it ended up being forced to be.

It wasn't supposed to be an album. The songs were supposed to be experimental. They weren't supposed to be released like that. The record company made it happen though. To me it is obvious that most of the songs on V were written quickly and never really put through the "does this suck or should we keep it like it is?" part of the writing process. I could be wrong but coming off the heels of TDTH I don't see how some of those lyrics could have seen the light of day if that wasn't somewhat true.

But with SFBM, none of that was the case. SFBM was a completely serious effort.

Somewhat, SFBM was a completely serious effort by ED. CCP had no input.

I think there was a serious clash when the ideas came together for the next album, in fact, I know there was. One minute we were waiting for the next album and everything was good. We even got to hear Ed sing Believe a few times. CT had written a bunch of guitar parts for other songs, but apparently Ed had other ideas, just as he pulled with SFBM. What ensued wasn't pleasant to say the least. All the contractual infidelities were discovered shortly after and voila!! Explosion.

[Hoodstock]

I still say no matter what that I'd listen to V 10 times over before listening to SFBM once.

That's great and all but he said SFBM 2 in the Topic Title - so I think he's talking about Alive.

Nice job totally derailing the thread!

This post has been edited by Hoodstock: Sep 7 2011, 3:03 pm

[Pokey]

That's great and all but he said SFBM 2 in the Topic Title - so I think he's talking about Alive.

Nice job totally derailing the thread!

I done fucked up

[LiveRoCkS77]

That's great and all but he said SFBM 2 in the Topic Title - so I think he's talking about Alive.

Nice job totally derailing the thread!

Nah dude, I wouldn't insult SFBM like that!! I just put the 2 at the end cos there was already a V vs. SFBM thread.

But it's pretty fucking bad when I have to call anything compared to SFBM an insult!!

On topic, I dunno, both albums were really bad. V just came on the heels of TDTH, which was really, REALLY good. It's just hard to believe that any person could go from writing 4 great albums to that garbage. The fact it wasn't meant to be an album is no excuse and means absolutely nothing when you consider that after V, everything followed along that exact same path. The guy wrote/co-wrote 4 great albums and proceeded to write 4 albums that are just fucking insanely amateur. A complete and utter reversal from the first four.

Call it an experiment all you want, fact remains that it and everything after completely sucked just as badly, if not more.

[Merica]

do what we came to do in a town tonight where the streets have no name
and everybody feels the same the outside world is a goddamn shame

I like those lyrics.

For me... V wins. Yes it's ball bustingly astounding how far down the album is compared to the masterpiece known as TDTH, but I still dig it in its own way. An explosion of trashy energy whereas, for me, SFBM is mostly snoooorrrreeee.

Except for Show, which rocks your fucking socks off.

[Sonic Tonic]

I agree with what you're saying somewhat, but I completely disagree on the lyrics thing. I think the lyrics on V and SFBM are very similar on many different levels. I think this is where it all got started and that's why I hated it so much. By the time SFBM came along, I was already both expecting and used to it. V came on the heels of Live's debatably most spectacular and complete album. It was a complete and utter failure both lyrically and musically.

You hear the way he sings the opening line in People like you?? Sound more pussified than almost anything on SFBM. V doesn't really rock more, it's just not as pop sounding as SFBM. But musically, it's still amateur and completely sucks balls. Especially coming off the heels of TDTH.

So not to say that SFBM is necessarily better, but when you look at where it came from, it really does. V and SFBM were both equally gross, but again, when SFBM came out, we expected nothing more. When V hit and I listened to it from start to finish??? I was fucking horrified.
Let's continue with this....

Transmit Your Love

bow, bow everybody body in the hotel bow,
bow everybody in the motel don't knock if the door to my suite is closed
you should of come to the show but you didn't,
now you're wishin' that you had had to go to jimmy buffet
with your dad with LIVE,
its game seven every single night you have to put it on the line to step inside

transmit your love to me and silently make me whole again
transmit your love to me

bow, bow put your ear to the door and bow,
bow put your face to the floor and through the crack,
see the people kickin it inside and leavin it all behind in the name of love,
we raise the roof in the name of love,
do what we came to do in a town tonight where the streets have no name
and everybody feels the same the outside world is a goddamn shame

transmit your love to me and silently make me whole again
transmit your love to me

come on! tell your leaders love is in town to turn this whole thing
upside down we can't take it anymore

transmit your love to me silently make me whole again
transmit your love to me

(welcome to my world of love welcome to my space
above this sacred love welcome to my space of bliss
drive me to the heart of this sacred love sacred love)
I mean, come on!!! "Tell your leaders love is in town, to turn this whole thing upside down!""

That's absolutely fucking horrid!!!

"With Live it's game seven every single night, you have to put it on the line to step inside."

Can it get any more god damned cheesy???

YES...YES IT CAN!!!

The line leading into it is even worse!!!

Indeed those are some bad lyrics and that's what kinda irks me cause musically the song is great. Imagine good Ed lyrics put with this song. Would be great.

[World Dreamer]

Somewhat, SFBM was a completely serious effort by ED. CCP had no input.

Completely agree. Sadly it got released by "Live", so CCP's name was on it.

Ed made everything right though. He re-released the exact same album under a different title and used just his name. I think it was called "Alive" or something...