Chris Shinn new Live frontman, According to FB member Options

[SJN1279]

So you are saying they are misleading fans? They have been very upfront and have posted multiple times about what is going on. It's all right there to read. Someone who just pops in for the first time in years may be caught off guard but to say they are misleading fans is ludicrous.

Taken from "LIVE's" most recent FB posts:

About: +LIVE+ are back, having just returned from a two year hiatus. Our boys will be hitting the studio by the end of summer to start work on their new album.

+LIVE+ are proud to announce the launch of our new official headquarters http://www.freaks4live.com/ +LIVE+ are preparing to enter the studio to write and record their 8th studio album....

[Wildman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn6K6tHCsT8

I think this song is quite good, his voice has different dimensions here!

I think he can pull it off if he is the Chosen One

[Aitkens]

Taken from "LIVE's" most recent FB posts:

About: +LIVE+ are back, having just returned from a two year hiatus. Our boys will be hitting the studio by the end of summer to start work on their new album.

+LIVE+ are proud to announce the launch of our new official headquarters http://www.freaks4live.com/ +LIVE+ are preparing to enter the studio to write and record their 8th studio album....

Last I checked they were still Live. Besides, your average music fan isn't reading Live's facebook page, or could give a damn about them. Live fans are following Live's facebook page, and probably at least know by now that it will be a new lead singer. Knock off the shit already.

[tiger]

Taken from "LIVE's" most recent FB posts:

About: +LIVE+ are back, having just returned from a two year hiatus. Our boys will be hitting the studio by the end of summer to start work on their new album.

+LIVE+ are proud to announce the launch of our new official headquarters http://www.freaks4live.com/ +LIVE+ are preparing to enter the studio to write and record their 8th studio album....

So what is your fucking point? How is that misleading? All of that is 100% true. Misleading would be if they intentionally tried to keep it from fans that Ed will not be part of Live. They aren't ready to announce the new singer yet. Who even knows if it is confirmed. It's all speculation. In the meantime every damn post is supposed to say Live(sans Ed)?

[tiger]

Taken from "LIVE's" most recent FB posts:

About: +LIVE+ are back, having just returned from a two year hiatus. Our boys will be hitting the studio by the end of summer to start work on their new album.

+LIVE+ are proud to announce the launch of our new official headquarters http://www.freaks4live.com/ +LIVE+ are preparing to enter the studio to write and record their 8th studio album....

You have still failed to answer my question. Why is it OK for Ed to continue in the spirit of Live but not C,C,P?

[World Dreamer]

Check out songs like One Less, Oscar and Me, We Don't Break, Not Dead, and Fin. All are solid songs and will give you an idea of what Shinn can do.

To be honest, he is going to have to step his game up if Live is really going to "rock".

Shinn is much more suited for TDTH than he is the earlier Live stuff. Hopefully the 8th album gets a good mix of it all.

All I know, and I do KNOW, is that we won't be getting SFBM II (SFBM III if you count Alive as SFBM II).

[Deku]

Interesting developments, if you can call them that. Admittedly I know nothing of this guy or his previous work. Think I'll wait until the official announcement before passing judgement

[FishOutaWater]

I will just say this to address Nick's insane bullsh*t. CCP waiting for Ed to return like the prodical son, and make a Live reunion that is a "success" would be a success in Nick's eyes and Ed's eyes. But Live with Ed will never EVER be a success again artistically, unless Ed completely changes his approach to God, music, his friends, his fans, money, music writing and the music business. And then when he figures all of that out, he needs to figure out how to somehow write songs like he used to when he was 18, because he sure as hell hasn't been able to figure out what it was that he lost a long time ago. CCP are Ed's age, and they have families, but somehow they still have the raw, raucous, passionate creativity for rock and roll, and they can still turn it out like they did when they were 18. And I still have the appetite to hear that music and not Christian adult contemproary"oooh la la". To use Nick's words, Live will be a "colossal fail" if they get back together with Ed. The world does not need a SFBM sequel or Alive II from Live. No one needs to see Ed "shake his moneymaker" to the groovey beat of Sofia at a Live concert again. THAT, my friends, is what defiles the legacy of Live. When Live recorded songs like Negation and Good Pain, they were Live. Live was being driven off course for a decade, and no reunion with Ed will ever be any good unless Ed get's struck on his bald head by a lightening bolt and get's shaken back to reality. In the meantime, let him go play Live's greatest hits in front of a bunch of brow beaten session musicians until the well runs dry.

Now on to Live 2.0.

I am a SUCKER for a tenor lead singer. I love Shannon Hoon from Blind Mellon. Listen to The Pusher on the Nico album. That is sick! Have you ever listened to Journey's greatest hits with the volume turned all the way up?!?!? Sung along with Only the Young? Don't Stop Beleivin'? Who could ever replace Steve Perry. But heck, they were on the Today Show last week with their new Asian lead singer who is 20 years younger than the rest of the band and the place was going nuts. I was like they still had everything going on that they had 30 years ago. Have you ever sung along with Led Zeppelin? Boston?!?! One of the things I love most about TGF is Kevin Martin's powerful tenor range. The thing that grabs ahold of me and moves me on all of this great, powerful music is a tenor singer. This Chris Shinn dude sounds like he has the chops. If he is the new lead singer, I will be completely thrilled. I hope he has a great personality and is the kind of guy that we can all get behind.

This post has been edited by FishOutaWater: Aug 3 2011, 4:06 pm

[PillarOfDavidson]

I will just say this to address Nick's insane bullsh*t. CCP waiting for Ed to return like the prodical son, and make a Live reunion that is a "success" would be a success in Nick's eyes and Ed's eyes. But Live with Ed will never EVER be a success again artistically, unless Ed completely changes his approach to God, music, his friends, his fans, money, music writing and the music business. And then when he figures all of that out, he needs to figure out how to somehow write songs like he used to when he was 18, because he sure as hell hasn't been able to figure out what it was that he lost a long time ago.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Ed became an artistically challenged asshole before this supposed turn toward Christiandom. Don't blame Jesus for Ed's overpriced coffee beans. If you'll remember correctly it was He who went blazing through the temple, turning over the money changer's tables...

Anyway... I otherwise agree. But until something happens to wake him up out of whatever self-centered dream world he's living we may as well forget Ed ever writing anything close to TC II.

[OutToDry]

I have no problem with CCP playing LIVE songs. I actually thought that The Gracious Few would have been a mix of LIVE/Candlebox/covers and new music. CCP playing LIVE or being associated with LIVE is fine and well deserved.

CCP saying that LIVE is back from hiatus and that they are working on their 8th studio album is just a bit misleading. If the average person sees LIVE"s FB posts on their wall, they would think that CCP are reuniting with Ed.

It's a fucking dicotime when we come to this topic......double fucking standard.

[Roberto]

I for one think that the boys of LIVE should do what ever the hell they feel is right. If Taylor, Pat and Gracey want to continue LIVE with a new singer, then go ahead and do it. If Ed wants to stick to his solo career, then he should do that. Albeit I'm not a fan of Ed's stuff, but I'm not mad at him if thats truly what he wants to do.

In my opinion this will be LIVE 2.0 because the original LIVE would consist of all four members, but hey if this is the direction they want to head into, then go for it. I truly hope they do well, I for one would love to hear the LIVE of the 90's but more importantly I would rather see them stop trying to please others and just play music for themselves. If they play and create for themselves then the energy and passion will flow through the speakers quite easily.

As soon as bands start trying to please others is just as soon as they lose all passion it seems.

So for now, as I wait to hear the new LIVE 2.0 stuff, I'll be rocking it out to one of the greatest bands to always play true to themselves, the Foo Fighters!!

This post has been edited by Roberto: Aug 3 2011, 5:30 pm

[thefunkyredcaboose]

If true, I think this is going to be a great combination. I love Unified Theory's album.

I understand everyone getting caught up in the Live name, but I don't care as long as the music is awesome. With this combo the music will be awesome.

[stuker]

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Do I get some kind of prize if this is true.

[SJN1279]

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Do I get some kind of prize if this is true.

No prize, but you were correct!

[FishOutaWater]

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Ed became an artistically challenged asshole before this supposed turn toward Christiandom. Don't blame Jesus for Ed's overpriced coffee beans. If you'll remember correctly it was He who went blazing through the temple, turning over the money changer's tables...

Anyway... I otherwise agree. But until something happens to wake him up out of whatever self-centered dream world he's living we may as well forget Ed ever writing anything close to TC II.

I will use another movie reference. And when I say this, I mean to refer to the underlying principle that is being illustrated. I am not trying to call Ed, or Christian music, or Christians a retard. And I don't like or use the word "retard" because it is offensive. But the movie scene, while controversial, is very funny.

Tropic Thunder

I wish I knew how to embed youtube videos, but I hope you click over and watch that clip. It's funy. So here is my anolgy...

Ed became Simple Jack. He went "full retard" on Alive. On Mental Jewelry and Thrwoing Copper, Ed basically said "Reject all conditioning and beliefs. Reject the teachers and preschers and politicians. Find the truth that lies beneath everything by quieting your mind and finding it within yourself." SS didn't really get into the spirituality all that much. On TDTH Ed basically said "I've spent some time in the desert and I found 'The One' and it was nothing like what I expected". On TDTH, V and SFBM, Ed talked about an open, universal, all-inclusive, non-denominational spirituality that was acceptable to everyone and can be interpretted in many different ways by everyone. It was creative and nuanced. At its best points, it was very artistic. On Alive, he is specifically and expressly singing about the holy Eucharist, Jesus, zion, Rome, Christianity, turning his life over to Jesus, and eternal life. There is no room for interpretation. There is no accessibility for anyone outside of that box. He went all in with Christianity. And it limited the artistic expression. The subtlety, metaphor, symbolism and creative expression is gone. He went over the line and went "full retard". As Robert Downey Jr.'s character said in Tropic Thunder when he was talking to Ben Stiller about his "Simple Jack" character: "You went full retard man! You never go full retard." Ed went from Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man to Sean Penn in I Am Sam to Simple Jack. Now he is Simple Jack. Or at least as clueless as the Ben Stiller character in Tropic Thunder who is the actor that plays Simple Jack.

Again, I am speaking symbolically here, to illustrate the underlying principle at work here. I am not condoning the use of the word retard or calling anybody an actual retard. I just think that the movie reference is apt and it is a really funny scene.