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post Jul 26 2011, 7:55 pm
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Fish, that was perfectly stated. I laughed out loud about Waterworld because I'm pretty positive I've heard Kevin Costner defend that movie, years after he needed to, saying he liked it. Poor Kevin.

I like Ed's new stuff for what it is, but it's not the same art it used to be.


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post Jul 26 2011, 8:18 pm
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QUOTE(Hoodstock @ Jul 25 2011, 8:33 pm) *

I never knew they made a video for this song until I found it today:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-PN2COATU8&NR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-PN2COATU8&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Was this just played in Australia?


Dude, it was on the Awake DVD, do you not have it or something??


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post Jul 26 2011, 9:26 pm
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QUOTE(FishOutaWater @ Jul 26 2011, 1:12 pm) *

I always liked V and I liked the spirituality of the lyrics.

But something definitely happened between 1999 and 2001. I'd love to know what changed during that period of time. It's like the "on" switch that controlled Ed's ability to write with metaphor and symbolism and depth got switched off. Or more accurately, the fuse blew and he never figured out how to fix the fuse. After TDTH, everything was "this is like that" using writing skills that were barely above second grade-level childrens books.


I agree with a lot of your post, but I think V's lyrics were the result of a hastily written record that wasn't (as CT stated) meant to be released as a full studio album. I do agree that it was the point when Ed started writing awful lyrics, but I can at least understand why that was the case on this record if it was recorded as Chad tells it. The fuse on the band's musicality didn't blow until after that record.

V hit on all cylinders for me with the glaring exception of the lyrics. To me, a lot of them sound like stand-in lyrics that writers use until they finish the lyrics - only they never got the time to mature.

Now BOP and SFBM (and Alive) - hell if I know.


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post Jul 26 2011, 11:24 pm
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QUOTE(OutToDry @ Jul 27 2011, 5:53 am) *

Gotta love how you framed this. thumbsup.gif


You sir, framed it ...in the quote box. nervous.gif


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post Jul 27 2011, 12:58 am
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Waterworld was great. fuck you very much


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post Jul 27 2011, 5:41 am
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QUOTE(Pokey @ Jul 26 2011, 10:28 am) *

Ah yeah I remember being at one of the gigs where Ed said they were filming this (they played the song twice that night!)


Jesus...I mean, of all the songs they could have played twice. Would love to have seen your face when Ed started singing 'I just come down from the mountain...' for the second time uhoh.gif

Also, I love how 'write a song so good make a midget grow' has become the defining lyric from that album. It's the go-to reference for anyone wanting to discuss how shite V was lyrically


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post Jul 27 2011, 5:47 am
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OMFG. That video is a joke right?

geezus that man has been thru some phases.


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QUOTE(Deku @ Jul 27 2011, 8:41 pm) *

Jesus...I mean, of all the songs they could have played twice. Would love to have seen your face when Ed started singing 'I just come down from the mountain...' for the second time uhoh.gif

Also, I love how 'write a song so good make a midget grow' has become the defining lyric from that album. It's the go-to reference for anyone wanting to discuss how shite V was lyrically


People seem to pick on Puppy Scruff a bit too, but I don't mind that since it's ... different.

Back then I don't think my face would be the same as if I were seeing them now and they played it twice, Live were still a bit of a savior back then and I was just glad to see them. It was a pretty awesome gig overall, very high energy.


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post Jul 27 2011, 6:32 am
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QUOTE(thefunkyredcaboose @ Jul 26 2011, 9:26 pm) *

I agree with a lot of your post, but I think V's lyrics were the result of a hastily written record that wasn't (as CT stated) meant to be released as a full studio album. I do agree that it was the point when Ed started writing awful lyrics, but I can at least understand why that was the case on this record if it was recorded as Chad tells it. The fuse on the band's musicality didn't blow until after that record.

V hit on all cylinders for me with the glaring exception of the lyrics. To me, a lot of them sound like stand-in lyrics that writers use until they finish the lyrics - only they never got the time to mature.

Now BOP and SFBM (and Alive) - hell if I know.


Yeah, the actual V-album we know me be done hastily... But overall Chad said the songs that were written between TDTH - V were one of best songs ED ever wrote! They never saw the daylight I guess. And I dont know if Chad pointed in 'best' in lyrical way or songwriting/music.

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I remember before the concert they were making a big song and dance about filming this in Melbourne in the media interviews. Then on both nights they played it twice for filming. There was a guy with a handy cam on stage...massive production
Funnily enough I crowd surfed to it blush.gif ....I didn't get kicked out,but I didn't make the final cut either


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QUOTE(PurdueSteve @ Jul 26 2011, 9:18 pm) *

Dude, it was on the Awake DVD, do you not have it or something??

Yes I have it. I bought it for the new song. I don't sit around watching video's all day.

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QUOTE(jonesy @ Jul 27 2011, 8:44 am) *

I remember before the concert they were making a big song and dance about filming this in Melbourne in the media interviews. Then on both nights they played it twice for filming. There was a guy with a handy cam on stage...massive production
Funnily enough I crowd surfed to it blush.gif ....I didn't get kicked out,but I didn't make the final cut either

Personally, I wouldn't want to make the final cut of that video. If I were in it I definately wouldn't show it to my friends. sarcasm.gif


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post Jul 27 2011, 12:28 pm
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QUOTE(Hoodstock @ Jul 27 2011, 7:47 am) *

Personally, I wouldn't want to make the final cut of that video. If I were in it I definately wouldn't show it to my friends. sarcasm.gif


This is how I felt about Live's music the last 3 albums. I had to hide the fact I was a Live fan for fear of being abolished. sad.gif


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post Jul 27 2011, 3:08 pm
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QUOTE(SinfulEyes @ Jul 27 2011, 12:28 pm) *

This is how I felt about Live's music the last 3 albums. I had to hide the fact I was a Live fan for fear of being abolished. sad.gif


I don't remember the exact post or where it was posted, but the misformed monkey comparisson that Wam made earlier was fantastic lol.gif


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QUOTE(Pokey @ Jul 27 2011, 8:24 am) *

You sir, framed it ...in the quote box. nervous.gif

BAAAHAAHAAHA




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