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post Jul 17 2011, 8:23 pm
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Abandon SFBM, just abort it, act like it never occurred.

BOP needs some new lyrics and themes, that would help it.

V needs to have Forever May Not Be Long Enough, Call Me a Fool, and Nobody Knows cut. Overcome needs to be the full band version. The rest of the songs need entirely new lyrics and themes.

TDTH, while good, I want it to be more like the demos. Louder Guitars, Bass, and Drums. Also make it a double disc and include Deeper, Don't Wait, Still Aroused, and Vine Street.

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post Jul 18 2011, 8:21 am
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QUOTE(Aitkens @ Jul 17 2011, 8:23 pm) *

Abandon SFBM, just abort it, act like it never occurred.

BOP needs some new lyrics and themes, that would help it.

V needs to have Forever May Not Be Long Enough, Call Me a Fool, and Nobody Knows cut. Overcome needs to be the full band version. The rest of the songs need entirely new lyrics and themes.

TDTH, while good, I want it to be more like the demos. Louder Guitars, Bass, and Drums. Also make it a double disc and include Deeper, Don't Wait, Still Aroused, and Vine Street.



The only change I would have made is that SFBM would be ok if some changes were made to the songs.

1. Cut The River, Mystery, Love Shines, All I Need and You Are Not Alone

2. I like Get Ready until the sing along part in the chorus. Nix that part and come up with a heavier chorus

3. Where do We go from Here and Home - need better lyrics

4. Let CCP have input on the other 5 songs that would replace the ones cut and we would have had a solid album.


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post Jul 18 2011, 12:43 pm
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QUOTE(Aitkens @ Jul 17 2011, 9:23 pm) *

Abandon SFBM, just abort it, act like it never occurred.

You can never take away The River from me! aggressive.gif

I don't give a fuck what anyone says - I like me some River!

QUOTE(Aitkens @ Jul 17 2011, 9:23 pm) *

TDTH, while good, I want it to be more like the demos. Louder Guitars, Bass, and Drums. Also make it a double disc and include Deeper

You know why Deeper isn't on TDTH?



Because it sucks! Talk about a boring song that is way too long and that will put a person flying on Red Bull to sleep!

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post Jul 18 2011, 12:59 pm
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QUOTE(Hoodstock @ Jul 18 2011, 12:43 pm) *

You can never take away The River from me! aggressive.gif

I don't give a fuck what anyone says - I like me some River!
You know why Deeper isn't on TDTH?
Because it sucks! Talk about a boring song that is way too long and that will put a person flying on Red Bull to sleep!


probably the best outtake out there, and should have been on TDTH for sure!
Well, Hold me Up, Don't Wait and Born Branded are quite awesome as well.


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post Jul 18 2011, 2:36 pm
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QUOTE(SecretInsomnia @ Jul 18 2011, 1:59 pm) *

probably the best outtake out there, and should have been on TDTH for sure!

Hey, I like The River, I never said you can't like Deeper. I just don't like Deeper .... at all.


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post Jul 18 2011, 2:55 pm
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QUOTE(Hoodstock @ Jul 18 2011, 2:36 pm) *

Hey, I like The River, I never said you can't like Deeper. I just don't like Deeper .... at all.


but I never implied you said I can't, OR that you can't dislike it wink.gif
just gave my 2 cents!


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post Jul 18 2011, 6:57 pm
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QUOTE(SecretInsomnia @ Jul 18 2011, 3:55 pm) *

but I never implied you said I can't, OR that you can't dislike it wink.gif
just gave my 2 cents!

Touche'


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post Jul 19 2011, 3:25 am
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Don't Wait > Deeper

Chad T's with me on this one. He once told me in FB chat that Don't Wait is his favourite ever Live song. Or favourite unreleased song. Or some form of favourite song in some capacity.


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post Jul 19 2011, 4:58 am
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Yeah I'm with Hoodie on this one, i'm not a big fan of Deeper (however I'm not with Hoodie on being a fan of the river either tongue.gif ). Deeper just drags, its ok to a point and then it just goes on and on. I remember something about CG being quite fond of it though.
That always struck me as funny because I always seemed to think of Ed and CT as the "spiritual" ones and CG and PD as the ones who just want to play rock'n'roll, and Deeper would strike me more of a Ed/CT song than a CG one.

But I agree, Don't Wait is beyond album worthy.


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I'd love to know what TDTH album they submitted to the record company. CT said it had drastically changed when it came back... so I wonder what track listing, for example, they had put forward.

In: Vine Street, Don't Wait, Change, Still Aroused?

Out: Face and Ghost, Dance With You, The Distance?


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post Jul 19 2011, 6:29 am
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I thought Ed wanted The Distance to be the first single? Pretty sure it would have been on the original submission. I imagine with their love of Dance with you it would have been there too ... Face and Ghost maybe. I'd assume maybe it were the songs from the album that never really got played too much like maybe Meltdown, Walk in a dream and Sun?


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post Jul 19 2011, 8:19 am
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I liked the big bang version of they stood up for love better than the album version. also hearing change and don't wait in concert twice they should have made the album.


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post Jul 19 2011, 9:04 am
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I wish Walk in the dream was released as a single. That was a so much underrated rocker. It flowed well in all aspects....a complete song through and through. One of my favorite Live songs and top 3 from tdth.


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post Jul 19 2011, 9:17 am
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I wish Live released MTV Unplugged, had released a concert video, had released official Bootlegs. Take a page from Pearl Jam. Part of the reason their fanbase is so strong is because they do those things. They also play 2 hour long shows, something I don't think I've ever seen Live do.


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post Jul 19 2011, 10:49 am
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QUOTE(Aitkens @ Jul 19 2011, 9:17 am) *

I wish Live released MTV Unplugged, had released a concert video, had released official Bootlegs. Take a page from Pearl Jam. Part of the reason their fanbase is so strong is because they do those things. They also play 2 hour long shows, something I don't think I've ever seen Live do.



Well, the shows I've seen of Live weren't that short, and I honestly can't believe they never played 2 hour shows?
Their sets were sometimes even 30 songs long (around 2006).

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