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post Jul 12 2011, 10:43 am
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QUOTE(OutToDry @ Jul 13 2011, 1:40 am) *

Can you restate this, I am confused lol.gif


Well I guess until he is officially replaced he CAN get away with saying he's Ed Kowalczyk from/of Live. Even though to people in the know, he's been sacked. BUT if he is officially replaced and Live is a living breathing, recording, touring life form again with a new lead singer, then he'll have to advertise as the former/ex lead singer of Live instead because anything else would be completely untrue.


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post Jul 12 2011, 10:53 am
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jul 12 2011, 9:59 am) *

Calling BS on that one. If TGF did so much better than Ed on tour, why is Ed still touring and CCP looking to ressurrect LIVE?


Nick, you dont have a clue what your talking about. TGF outsold Ed, almost EVERYWHERE.

The fact that TGF sold their shows at 10 buck tickets shows one thing. They were trying to make it affordable and not rip fans off. They dont try to sell necklaces and coffee and other things.

LIVE always intended to get back together after the westbury show. The fact that Ed didnt want to come back is because he stabbed his friends in the back and he realizes he cant get away with it anymore.
TGF is off for the summer because Candlebox and also Hennessy's other band Kings Royal had some other engagements. Again, booked well in advance.

LIVE is on their original schedule of getting back together minus Ed. but thats Ed's choice.

as a fan of LIVE wouldnt you want all of the unreleased material? I know I would.

However, you can be certain of 1 thing. When the band LIVE goes on tour, they will heavily outsell and outperform Eddie K FORMERLY of LIVE.
Just like Van Halen blew David Lee Roth away. And Roth was a MUCH bigger personality than Ed could ever be.
And I dont care if it is Chris Zalenka, Chad Kroeger , Rob Thomas, Anouk, Amy Lee, Julian Lennon, or Chris Martin.

little hint maybe in those names......

Remember Chad Taylor is a genius and he will make sure that the BRAND and BAND of LIVE is in GREAT HANDS!......





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QUOTE(Pokey @ Jul 12 2011, 11:43 am) *

Well I guess until he is officially replaced he CAN get away with saying he's Ed Kowalczyk from/of Live. Even though to people in the know, he's been sacked. BUT if he is officially replaced and Live is a living breathing, recording, touring life form again with a new lead singer, then he'll have to advertise as the former/ex lead singer of Live instead because anything else would be completely untrue.



Not true, he is not allowed by law to use that name. He can only saw formerly.


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post Jul 12 2011, 11:02 am
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QUOTE(The Thrill @ Jul 13 2011, 1:53 am) *

Nick, you dont have a clue what your talking about. TGF outsold Ed, almost EVERYWHERE.


as much as I don't like the fact that Ed did, I was under the impression that for the most part he still outsold TGF. Not everywhere, but in most places. What do you have that says otherwise? And "I just know" isn't proof hehe.gif

QUOTE(The Thrill @ Jul 13 2011, 1:53 am) *

as a fan of LIVE wouldnt you want all of the unreleased material? I know I would.


Music? lol Nick doesn't care about such things.

QUOTE(The Thrill @ Jul 13 2011, 1:53 am) *

Not true, he is not allowed by law to use that name. He can only saw formerly.


Whether he can legally or can't legally is besides the point. My point is that currently the average fan may not know all the ins and outs and may see Ed and Live as legit on a break. If Live starts up again without Ed, I would hope that would become common knowledge to the average Ed-concert goer, there by they can't ignore the fact that Ed is now a former/ex singer of Live.


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post Jul 12 2011, 11:05 am
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QUOTE(The Thrill @ Jul 12 2011, 11:53 am) *

And I dont care if it is Chris Zalenka, Chad Kroeger , Rob Thomas, Anouk, Amy Lee, Julian Lennon, or Chris Martin.

little hint maybe in those names......

Remember Chad Taylor is a genius and he will make sure that the BRAND and BAND of LIVE is in GREAT HANDS!......


What is going on here? Am I to believe that the lead singer of my favorite band will also be able to give me golf lessons?



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post Jul 12 2011, 11:12 am
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thank you for the come to jesus information Thrill!!! The plot thickens!!! nod.gif


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QUOTE(The Thrill @ Jul 12 2011, 11:53 am) *

Nick, you dont have a clue what your talking about. TGF outsold Ed, almost EVERYWHERE.

The fact that TGF sold their shows at 10 buck tickets shows one thing. They were trying to make it affordable and not rip fans off. They dont try to sell necklaces and coffee and other things.



What similar venues did they play, and which venues did TGF outsell Ed? Drawing a few more people when your ticket prices are less than half the other artist isn't really something to brag about.

The reason they knocked tickets down to 10 dollars, was so that they could get people through the door. No but they tried to get fans to buy stock in a band that isn't making money.


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post Jul 12 2011, 11:22 am
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jul 13 2011, 2:15 am) *

What similar venues did they play, and which venues did TGF outsell Ed? Drawing a few more people when your ticket prices are less than half the other artist isn't really something to brag about.

The reason they knocked tickets down to 10 dollars, was so that they could get people through the door. No but they tried to get fans to buy stock in a band that isn't making money.


Believing that as you do, do you think it's just as bad as charging people over the top prices for absolutely shitty stick figure drawings of yourself or phone calls to yourself? Cheap pendants marked up to hell or coffee with your kid's faces on them. surely you can see the double standards here.


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post Jul 12 2011, 11:26 am
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QUOTE(Pokey @ Jul 12 2011, 12:22 pm) *

Believing that as you do, do you think it's just as bad as charging people over the top prices for absolutely shitty stick figure drawings of yourself or phone calls to yourself? Cheap pendants marked up to hell or coffee with your kid's faces on them. surely you can see the double standards here.


You can have things for sale, and its up to the consumer to buy it. I'd rather pay 200 dollars for a drawing, than 200 dollars for a stock(which is essentially nothing).


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post Jul 12 2011, 11:27 am
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jul 12 2011, 12:15 pm) *

What similar venues did they play, and which venues did TGF outsell Ed? Drawing a few more people when your ticket prices are less than half the other artist isn't really something to brag about.

The reason they knocked tickets down to 10 dollars, was so that they could get people through the door. No but they tried to get fans to buy stock in a band that isn't making money.



Once again, you have no clue what your talking about.

The stock or shares you speak of is for the record label. The record label will have many, many more bands than The Gracious Few. Again, please refer to my "Chad Taylor is a genius" quote.
Hmm lets see what other bands could possibly get a record deal with that label. I dont know...Im not sure if these guys know anyone in any other bands. I wonder if those guys played in another band besides TGF.

Again, Mr. Nick you have your facts confused.

Give me a list of all of the ED K shows and venues and I will telll you each one he was outsold in. and I will give you the phone number to the clubs manager and you can call them up and ask who sold better.

Also, call up a few radio stations. Call the program director at WZZO ask her why she doesnt play Ed, aske her why they play appetite every day. Do the same with other radios sations across the county. You will get one answer. EDS MUSIC SUCKS and isnt ROCK, so we cant play it on a ROCK Station.

on a side note, its not Chris Zalenka, however if you get to see him in person performing some songs. He is excellent. The videos do not do him justice and neither does the small room he practices in.


All ya got to do is answer one question nick. dont you want to hear all of the unreleased LIVE stuff. and when I say unreleased LIVE. I mean from back before Samadhi, not the SFBM crap.


If its not a YES, then your on crack!


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the double standard has existed with this hack for over 2 years perhaps way longer. To think he's a teacher and the kids he molds......infuckingcredible. Keep on talking about success, money, charts, etc.....I am talking about integrity, basic human decency. IT FUCKING COUNTS MORE THAN YOU WILL EVER REALIZE!!!!

You know Nick, its that you're not really thinking clearly, or you've clearly been duped by the ways of Ed.


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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jul 12 2011, 12:26 pm) *


You can have things for sale, and its up to the consumer to buy it. I'd rather pay 200 dollars for a drawing, than 200 dollars for a stock(which is essentially nothing).




another contradiction in the disguise of a statement.......



you are on crack!!



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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jul 12 2011, 12:26 pm) *

You can have things for sale, and its up to the consumer to buy it. I'd rather pay 200 dollars for a drawing, than 200 dollars for a stock(which is essentially nothing).



In the stock market, you buy at the IPO or when it is low.

No different in this scenario. When they start signing some bands that you all know and LOVE. Then what is that stock worth.

Once again. NICK KNOWS JACK SHIT!


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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jul 13 2011, 2:26 am) *

You can have things for sale, and its up to the consumer to buy it. I'd rather pay 200 dollars for a drawing, than 200 dollars for a stock(which is essentially nothing).


That drawing was essentially nothing too.
lol "its up to the consumer to buy it", was someone forcing people to buy stock? It was up to people to buy it too ... god you are pathetic.
What about Ed's "charity" too, wasn't that brought up recently that it wasn't just charity but had religious connections where anyone "saved" was then a target of religious conversion? There's something you don't hear about.

What I love still is how you defend to the death anything that Ed does, yet you still probably don't even listen to half the back catalog of stuff he was involved in. That's the ironic thing, for all the sprouting off you do about your man-love for Ed, there are people here who have lost faith in him that I'm sure have loved him for his actual musical art a lot more genuinely than you do. Again, it seems everything but the music is most important.


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QUOTE(The Thrill @ Jul 12 2011, 11:53 am) *



However, you can be certain of 1 thing. When the band LIVE goes on tour, they will heavily outsell and outperform Eddie K FORMERLY of LIVE.
Just like Van Halen blew David Lee Roth away. And Roth was a MUCH bigger personality than Ed could ever be.
And I dont care if it is Chris Zalenka, Chad Kroeger , Rob Thomas, Anouk, Amy Lee, Julian Lennon, or Chris Martin.



If CCP's main purpose of reforming LIVE is to outsell Ed, than thats just pathetic. The rest of the post doesn't even make sense. Chad Kroeger, Rob Thomas fronting LIVE? I don't get it.


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