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post Jul 10 2011, 2:53 pm
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jul 10 2011, 12:40 pm) *

Sometimes even the best couples are better off divorced. smile.gif


The ironic thing is that if they are ever to get back together it will be Ed who has to come back to them, not the other way around as you continually see it. You'd better hope that they don't have success with a new singer or it will never happen for EK.


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post Jul 10 2011, 2:55 pm
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QUOTE(thefunkyredcaboose @ Jul 10 2011, 3:44 pm) *

He plays 2 songs from the album.

He plays 2 songs total from V, BoP, and SFBM.

I rest my case.


He basically plays the more well known LIVE songs outside of Beauty of Gray and The Distance.

Most shows that I've seen, has been one song from SS. Lakini's Juice is a new addition into the set and Turn My Head has been left out at quite a few shows

V- Overcome is sometimes played

BOP- Heaven is always played

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post Jul 10 2011, 2:56 pm
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whats with the 3 piece percussion? Totally ruined some songs which current versions are already lacking quite a bit.


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post Jul 10 2011, 3:02 pm
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jul 10 2011, 3:55 pm) *

He basically plays the more well known LIVE songs outside of Beauty of Gray and The Distance.

Most shows that I've seen, has been one song from SS. Lakini's Juice is a new addition into the set and Turn My Head has been left out at quite a few shows

V- Overcome is sometimes played

BOP- Heaven is always played

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You just won my argument for me. SS had two hits the EK can play, those 3 albums combined (you know, the ones Ed wrote) had two hits.


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post Jul 10 2011, 3:09 pm
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QUOTE(Aitkens @ Jul 10 2011, 9:31 am) *

TDTH still had collaboration, it wasn't "The Ed Show". That being said, it's my 4th favorite.

The problem is you can't differentiate the sound of music, all you can hear is the voice of the singer.


This right here. Nick has no concept of what music is.


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post Jul 10 2011, 3:19 pm
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jul 10 2011, 12:01 pm) *

Many old fans move on, and the next generation tends to care about the next hot, new act. It happens to nearly all bands. Name one 90's band that is as popular today as it was back then.


Tool (even bigger)
Pearl Jam still sell out arenas
I gave you 2 in of the top of my head.


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post Jul 10 2011, 3:27 pm
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I hate to get back on the topic of criticizing Nick, but does anyone listen to the Howard Stern show? Has anyone else noticed that Nick seems to have the same personality as Eric the Midget? You know how Eric the Midget loves Hulk Hogan and American Idol and what is and will be commercially successful and what is not, without any sense of artistic quality. Eric loved Diana Digarmo and he would defend her to the death, no matter what and would do anything to meet her. And he is always judging things as good or bad. I'm just saying. It's kind of interesting how they both seem to be in the same chapter of the psychology textbook.

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post Jul 10 2011, 3:48 pm
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QUOTE(FishOutaWater @ Jul 10 2011, 4:27 pm) *

I hate to get back on the topic of criticizing Nick, but does anyone listen to the Howard Stern show? Has anyone else noticed that Nick seems to have the same personality as Eric the Midget? You know how Eric the Midget loves Hulk Hogan and American Idol and what is and will be commercially successful and what is not, without any sense of artistic quality. Eric loved Diana Digarmo and he would defend her to the death, no matter what and would do anything to meet her. And he is always judging things as good or bad. I'm just saying. It's kind of interesting how they both seem to be in the same chapter of the psychology textbook.


Artistic quality is very subjective and totally different for each person.

Your earlier post regarding LIVE on Howard Stern, where you said that all guests get great exposure from his show, was no longer true by the time LIVE came was on in 2006. The early days of Howard on Sirius barely registered half a million listeners, if that.

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post Jul 10 2011, 4:03 pm
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jul 10 2011, 4:48 pm) *

Artistic quality is very subjective and totally different for each person.

Your earlier post regarding LIVE on Howard Stern, where you said that all guests get great exposure from his show, was no longer true by the time LIVE came was on in 2006. The early days of Howard on Sirius barely registered half a million listeners, if that.


Not true.

There you go again. Is this a comedy act? Are you serious?

Not only is it not true, but it isn't possible for you to know how many subscribers tune into channel 100. That information is not made available. Do you mind telling us how you know how many people tuned into channel 100 around the time that Live appeared on there?

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post Jul 10 2011, 5:20 pm
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QUOTE(FishOutaWater @ Jul 10 2011, 5:03 pm) *

Not true.

There you go again. Is this a comedy act? Are you serious?

Not only is it not true, but it isn't possible for you to know how many subscribers tune into channel 100. That information is not made available. Do you mind telling us how you know how many people tuned into channel 100 around the time that Live appeared on there?


Oops I had the wrong info. At the time of LIVE's appearance on Howard, Sirius had approxmiately 4.5 million subscribers. Those subscribers are spread out the entire roster of Sirius' 100+ channels and by no means were all Howard listeners. Maybe at that point 2-3 million were active listeners of Howard. For comparison, the Ellen Degeneres show averages about 2.7 million viewers and the Tonight Show with Jay Leno averages 5.7 million viewers(both shows that LIVE has appeared on).

On the flip side, Howard at his terrestrial radio peak would reach roughly 20 million listeners daily. Back in those days, when a guest was booked on Howard, it could mean a lot for their career. A spot on Howard's show has meant much less once Howard jumped to sattelite radio.


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post Jul 10 2011, 5:23 pm
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You had the wrong info, no shit. Not shocked at all.


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post Jul 10 2011, 5:26 pm
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This is what I posted in response too:

Everybody who appears on Howard Stern becomes a top Google search that day and their websites crash from traffic. But not Live.

Maybe back in the 1990's and early 2000's, but not lately and definitely not in Howard's early stages at Sirius.


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post Jul 10 2011, 5:55 pm
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jul 10 2011, 3:26 pm) *

This is what I posted in response too:

Everybody who appears on Howard Stern becomes a top Google search that day and their websites crash from traffic. But not Live.

Maybe back in the 1990's and early 2000's, but not lately and definitely not in Howard's early stages at Sirius.


No debating the power of Idol though and they got nothing from that.


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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jul 10 2011, 11:46 am) *

AllMusic.com is the only major music website that has reviewed all of Live's albums(Mental Jewelery to Paradiso). Secret Samahdi is the lowest rated album on that chart, while V and SFBM do quite well. It is all perspective.

V is the single worst album I have ever purchased. If that and SFBM did well and SS was rated poorly then AllMusic.com has absolutely no credibility in my book.

The single fact that LJ was on that album makes it good enough for me to say it's better than SFBM, BOP, V and LATPD combined.


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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jul 10 2011, 3:55 pm) *

He basically plays the more well known LIVE songs outside of Beauty of Gray and The Distance.

Most shows that I've seen, has been one song from SS. Lakini's Juice is a new addition into the set and Turn My Head has been left out at quite a few shows

V- Overcome is sometimes played

BOP- Heaven is always played

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I'd like to hear his all-star band play White, Discussion (with passion, not like lame ducks) because I don't think they could pull it off!


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