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post Apr 3 2011, 9:20 am
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He cannot answer that one. That's what a true christian would do, forgive and forget.


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post Apr 3 2011, 9:26 am
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Apr 3 2011, 6:32 am) *

But there is something wrong with someone not wanting to run back to front a band who's members ripped him publicly?

The truth is they need Ed more than Ed needs them.


Childish on both points. A reasonable adult should be able to process this beyond their ego. You're always accusing them of being insecure? This is a prime example.


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post Apr 3 2011, 9:43 am
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speaking of puppies, how bout those weinies from the Sick Puppies snubbin our man Sean??
ZUP wid dat ??


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post Apr 3 2011, 9:44 am
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you all are funny...the gas has been thrown on the fire..head west


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post Apr 3 2011, 9:51 am
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QUOTE(Pokey @ Apr 3 2011, 10:10 am) *

Back to my point of, what do you make of Ed not forgiving the guys vs his new found Christian faith? Stuck between a rock and a hard place on that one huh!


A Christian can forgive, but that doesn't necessarily mean going back to a bad situation. Ed may have forgiven CCP for their comments etc, but if he is enjoying his time solo, why should he have to go back to Live?

If CCP were so miserable with Live, why are they begging fans to help reunite the band? It makes me think that they need a Live reunion more than Ed does at this point.

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post Apr 3 2011, 9:59 am
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Mr 2012 prediction.....answer my fucking question. You spin your question again to Pokey's point.

And more known facts. C&C&P own Live.


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post Apr 3 2011, 10:00 am
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QUOTE(OutToDry @ Apr 3 2011, 10:59 am) *

Mr 2012 prediction.....answer my fucking question. You spin your question again to Pokey's point.

And more known facts. C&C&P own Live.


What did I spin?

They may own Live, but without Ed's participation, the name isn't worth nearly as much.


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post Apr 3 2011, 10:06 am
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Apr 3 2011, 8:00 am) *

What did I spin?

They may own Live, but without Ed's participation, the name isn't worth nearly as much.


Why did he ever join their band in the first place then?


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post Apr 3 2011, 10:08 am
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QUOTE(tiger @ Apr 3 2011, 11:06 am) *

Why did he ever join their band in the first place then?


A lot can change in 20 years. Most bands don't last nearly that long(with their original line-up).


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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Apr 3 2011, 8:08 am) *

A lot can change in 20 years. Most bands don't last nearly that long(with their original line-up).


What changed?


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post Apr 3 2011, 10:15 am
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The change was Ed. He turned into a cancer and killed the band from the inside.


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QUOTE(Aitkens @ Apr 3 2011, 11:15 am) *

The change was Ed. He turned into a cancer and killed the band from the inside.


Or they grew apart.


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post Apr 3 2011, 10:16 am
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Apr 4 2011, 12:51 am) *

A Christian can forgive, but that doesn't necessarily mean going back to a bad situation. Ed may have forgiven CCP for their comments etc, but if he is enjoying his time solo, why should he have to go back to Live?

If CCP were so miserable with Live, why are they begging fans to help reunite the band? It makes me think that they need a Live reunion more than Ed does at this point.


I agree, if he's enjoying what he's doing now then he should stay the hell away from Live because he's poison to what made that band great. What made the band great was the dynamic it had in the 90s. It's clear that is the way CCP what to work and are continuing that in TGF. It's clear Ed doesn't want to work that way, and in that case he should stay away from Live. It also should then mean Live should cease to be, because as much of a dick that he is, he's part of a 4 piece puzzle. The fact that he carries on playing Live songs with his sub par band gives the impression he thinks he's a much bigger piece of that puzzle than he was rather than an equal part.

So you're saying a Christian can forgive, so if he can forgive that still doesn't mean he has to go back to Live. Like I mentioned where are the shout outs to TGF? Where is his acknowledgement of them? Forgiving them doesn't mean he has to go back to Live. So if he's such a great Christian, where is his Christian spirit?

I admit I'm a bit baffled as to why CCP are starting up about this now. But I'm not going to be as ignorant as you and pretend I know all the answers.
We can rule out that it's not signalling any death of TGF because only an idiot would deny how much fun they're all having with that. The fact they're still writing and recording shows that isn't ending any time soon.
It doesn't have to be a money issue, you seem to have set your mind on that because that's ALL YOU FUCKING THINK ABOUT. Maybe they have forgiven Ed, maybe like so many relationships they want to try and mend some bridges. It isn't an admission of them being completely at fault either. You're so damn pig headed that you don't seem to consider how many other factors can come into play.
You must seriously be so devoid of emotion and brain power because you never seem to consider variables and complexities of situations. Everything to you seems to be driven by money and greed, the true son of a politician eh? I can see why you are so drawn to Ed, definitely think alike.


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post Apr 3 2011, 10:18 am
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Apr 3 2011, 11:16 am) *

Or they grew apart.

I would distance myself from Ed as well with the way he acted and treated the rest of the band. Sorry Nick, but all you are doing is "putting lipstick on the pig", in the end its still a pig, and its name is Edward Kowalczyk.


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post Apr 3 2011, 10:20 am
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Apr 3 2011, 8:16 am) *

Or they grew apart.


So how does that make them need him more? Trying to figure out how you quantify that. Pretty sure nobody knew of him before he joined their band.


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