The Gracious Few, For Those Who Have Listened. Options

[thefunkyredcaboose]

I think hes got awesome range, he totally nails it when they reverb his high pitched screaming, but maybe things like the verses of guilty fever are kinda soft. Once in a while hes sounds a little matchbox twenty-ish. Even with his obvious talent, when you think of robert p and brian johnson, you know they lived a certain wild lifestyle, larger than life dirty rockers. KM is sort of just representing that vocal style, which was associated with that lifestyle, and just singing in that influence. Not to say he isn't rebellious, but I'd say its not quite the same as how the folks on your list put out.

I understand your point but I like that he has always been able to do the classic rock thing alongside a more pop-style vocal. I don't think it is really "fake" as most rock guys sober up by his age (or wind up dead). It may not be exactly the same as he mixes in other styles, but it is rare to hear someone these days use those influences as well as he does. I also wasn't trying to say he is as good as Robert Plant or Freddy Mercury. I would kill myself if I ever thought that.

To say that it is "Matchbox 20-esque" though is a bit insulting since Kevin was around making hits and singing this way long before Rob Thomas.

Also I thought it was funny you mentioned the reverb. Personally, I hate that sound (especially on The Few and Nothing But Love) and I think it detracts from what he is doing vocally. Bummer for me, I guess.

Here's what I personally like about KM. Check out Candlebox' self-titled album, then listen to the TGF album. Unlike a lot of singers, his voice has really changed and matured with time. You can tell he worked hard on this album to separate it from his earlier work with Candlebox and I appreciate that a lot.

[Bremang]

Yea in the end its all just a matter of taste. I am not a CB fan, but to hear his vocal style change was a big plus for me.

[+Ed+]

Funny enough, I tried listening to Cbox back in 2008 when I heard word they were touring with Live.

Since then I gave it honest 20-30 tries. It ain't my music. It ain't my vocals, strange enough, as alternative and grunge along with post-grunge uis def my cup o tea...

But now...


After hearing TGF I have deep respect to Kevin for his vocal abilities, for his enormous talent and th nervous vibe he brings into the songs. It is incredible how one record can change a point of view. And in all honesty, if I never heard of him or Live, and heard Honest Man or Cryin Time, I would def tear my wallet apart to get the cd as this music fucking speaks to me with every note.

[PurdueSteve]

anyone read the lyrics for the few? to me it looks like the song is about the CCP's troubles with Ed and how they are breaking out.

just my two cents.

I was going to hold off on that analysis, but yes it is undeniable.

No, No, No, No,

I think it's shitty that you two think that CT, CG and PD are so pathetic that they'd bring that bullshit into their music, music that they are making with two other people whom have no such connection to Ed K.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like it's probable that these guys (all 5 of them) have discussed the lyrics to their songs and I have a hard time swallowing that Sean and Kevin would want to be a part of any stupid childish drama.

A lot of people here thought the same bullshit about Ed's Grace.

If I'm wrong, and CC&P brought that shit into their NEW music, their NEW band, their NEW sound then I would lose a lot of respect for them.

[Bremang]

Who knows....
CCP all seem passionate about the breakup, why not make a song about it?
CT has been carrying the breakup for over a year now, up until his most recent Facebook video this past week or so, where hes taking jabs at Ed. The breakup with Ed has been noted as fueling some aspects of the new music, wouldn't suprise me if it also surfaces lyrically. Even if the song isn't about Ed, the lyrics still fit the breakup situation and they must have known Live fans would make the connection.

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[OutToDry]

So you're saying is you're in total denial to human emotions Steve? The songs rock and they take no prisoners.

[OutToDry]

And you state that Iam pathetic to think they would write about their strife........fuck you. Who made you president?

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[PurdueSteve]

So you're saying is you're in total denial to human emotions Steve? The songs rock and they take no prisoners.

Tapping into some of the emotion and being inspired about it is one thing, the song(s) being about Ed/Live's breakup is a totally different thing and would be quite pathetic. You, seemed to be implying that earlier in this thread.

Moreso, while we're being honest, I think you're sort of enthusiastic, due to your own emotions I would presume, that the song(s) are specifically about Ed or the breakup. If Nick is Ed's cheerleader on these forums then you could probably be TGF's cheerleader. You both make irrational arguments, although the severity, frequency and idiocy are most of the time characteristic of Nick. My point is that I while you think I'm in "denial" it's probably you reading inbetween the lines wishing to see something.

e: correct word

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[Bremang]

TGF thrives off the breakup

This post has been edited by Bremang: Sep 13 2010, 8:18 am

[PurdueSteve]

And you state that Iam pathetic to think they would write about their strife........fuck you. Who made you president?

Made me president? What kind of response is that? What are we, in the 5th grade?

Look, if they were inspired by their emotions, great.

If the songs ARE literally about Ed/breakup then that is pathetic and juvenile. I would hope that as professional artists they are above that. Otherwise, it's nothing different than the East Coast and West Coast Biggie versus 2pac bullshit.

[+Ed+]

I think it's shitty that you two think that CT, CG and PD are so pathetic that they'd bring that bullshit into their music,

Steven, losing a best friend after he betrays you and worrying about it is PATHETIC?

[PurdueSteve]

Steven, losing a best friend after he betrays you and worrying about it is PATHETIC?

No.

I said no such thing.

[Bremang]

If the songs ARE literally about Ed/breakup then that is pathetic and juvenile. I would hope that as professional artists they are above that. Otherwise, it's nothing different than the East Coast and West Coast Biggie versus 2pac bullshit.

Do you think the half dozen or so insights or jabs from Chad Taylor about the breakup in conjunction with promoting the new TGF album is also pathetic in the form of interviews or blogs or video posts , or only in terms of making a song on the album?



There were several rap beefs after the east/west beef that were totally a marketing gimmick.

This post has been edited by Bremang: Sep 13 2010, 8:30 am

[PurdueSteve]

Do you think the half dozen or so insights or jabs from Chad Taylor about the breakup in conjunction with promoting the new TGF album is also pathetic, or just in terms of making a song on the album?

There were several rap beefs after the east/west beef that were totally a marketing gimmick.

I think it's unprofessional, however entertaining. It's more palatable if it's in the form of one member's facebook videos/blogs rather than a whole song, representing all 5 members. Are you viewing them as one in the same?

Yes, they were all friends for a long time and all that but let's get real. The shit has been downhill for how long? According to CTs appropriate medium, his blog account, revealing those details it didn't start just a year ago? 1 year ago their friendship was not that great. So it's not like he's still in the process of "grieving" still. Most people recover from divorces better than most people on this board seem to go on about this "breakup of friends". Which by the way, it's not a breakup of friends. There are still 3 guys that are still, presumably, close friends.

Now, since being musically oppressed, if they tap into some emotion, some anger, some feelings of vengeance and that inspires them. Great!

If on the other hand, as I said before, the song is LITERALLY about ED, that is pathetic, beneath them as people and as musicians.

Edit: I'm not suggesting that the songs are literally about Ed or the breakup. Maybe I'm in "denial" but that does not seem to be the case. I love this album, I love the music and I think CT, CG, and PD are great musicians whose ego are in check and don't need to resort to the level of bringing the drama into their music literally.

This post has been edited by PurdueSteve: Sep 13 2010, 8:43 am

[PurdueSteve]

Let's just go ahead and declare that the whole album is about Ed/Breakup, that would make those who are destined to be a contestant on the Jerry Springer show happy. Let's see

Appetite - "Got an itchy, trigger finger" - Surely they are so pissed they want to shoot Ed.

Honest Man - "Ain't no work for an honest man" - Ed's not honest so there's no real work for him.

Guilty Fever - "I got a guilty fever... I want to shake things up" - This is clearly a first person narrative of Ed.

The Few - "Don't you ever think to come around here no more" - It's about how Ed can't come around again.

The Rest of You - "I had a feeling you'd rehearsed cause all the words you spoke were so divine" This is undeniably about Ed over rehearsing his ego lyrics and thinking his words are divine!!

Crying Time - "Did you ever want out of this" - Speaking to Ed, did he want out of the band??

Silly Thing - "I could be set aside, forgotten, drained and burned alive" - This is what Ed did to CT. It's so clear to me now! CT was set aside and forgotten as studio musicians wrote his guitar parts and now CT wrote his own lyrics about it.

Closer - "I have been wronged by you, someday you'll see" - Ed wronged them and someday he'll see!

What's wrong - "Said it's over cause baby can't live without you" - Clearly about the band being over! Note the subliminal usage of the word "live", I mean they could've used the word "exist" or "breath"

Tredecim - "These waters between us are crashing cold" - Obviously about the cold divide between Ed and CCP.

Nothing but Love - "Sing baby make me believe... you got nothing but love" - Obviously TGF is calling Ed out on his lying lyrics regarding love and they think his lyrics are a farce!!

Sing - "I wanna sing... sing my song" - This is CT talking about how he is tired of doing Ed's songs and wants to contribute his own song to the band.

All I hear (bonus) - "I don't wanna change for sake of change" - This is unarguably about Ed's constant change from album to album trying to cash in on the current cliche' trends and TGF doesn't want to do that.


I see the light now. This whole album is about Ed/Breakup.



This post has been edited by PurdueSteve: Sep 13 2010, 9:11 am