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Your Assessment of It.
How would you assess this release?
It's Great. [ 14 ] ** [17.07%]
It Sucks. [ 37 ] ** [45.12%]
It's Somewhere In Between. [ 31 ] ** [37.80%]
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post Jul 7 2010, 10:28 am
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Fishy, without you this board would have been emptier. Thnk you so very much. You also naiked my thought about the self-quotes which I purely hate.

And what is more, I do not understand, why the christians need christian rock. WTF? If you believe in god, keep your faith, help the handicapt, visit the church and pray.

What else?

WHY do you feel the need to scream about your love towards god? I kind of refuse to understand that.

From my posts, who can say that I believe in god? Hardly anyone. but I do, just do not spread it, as it is one of the most intimate topics in the WORLD.

From Ed's songs who can say he believes in god? Hardly anyone.

Because he says it TOO OFTEN


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post Jul 7 2010, 10:32 am
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QUOTE(+Ed+ @ Jul 7 2010, 11:28 am) *

Fishy, without you this board would have been emptier. Thnk you so very much. You also naiked my thought about the self-quotes which I purely hate.

And what is more, I do not understand, why the christians need christian rock. WTF? If you believe in god, keep your faith, help the handicapt, visit the church and pray.

What else?

WHY do you feel the need to scream about your love towards god? I kind of refuse to understand that.

From my posts, who can say that I believe in god? Hardly anyone. but I do, just do not spread it, as it is one of the most intimate topics in the WORLD.

From Ed's songs who can say he believes in god? Hardly anyone.

Because he says it TOO OFTEN



There is a lot more to being a Christian than the things you listed. Christ told us to share our faith so that is why Christians do it.

Why do we have Christian rock? Because we can. We like rock music. We love God, makes sense to put them together.

I still don't think what Ed is doing is Christian rock though. He sings a lot about God and faith but in broad terms.


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post Jul 7 2010, 10:34 am
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QUOTE(deepenoughtodive @ Jul 7 2010, 7:32 pm) *

There is a lot more to being a Christian than the things you listed. Christ told us to share our faith so that is why Christians do it.

You do not have sex?
You never smoked?
You never betraid?
You never stole?
You never got drunk and threw up?

There is much more to being a Christian than the things you listed.

Damn, where is that gotgrzasrsrz thread?


Wam, pass the wine


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post Jul 7 2010, 10:36 am
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QUOTE(+Ed+ @ Jul 7 2010, 11:28 am) *

Fishy, without you this board would have been emptier. Thnk you so very much. You also naiked my thought about the self-quotes which I purely hate.

And what is more, I do not understand, why the christians need christian rock. WTF? If you believe in god, keep your faith, help the handicapt, visit the church and pray.

What else?

WHY do you feel the need to scream about your love towards god? I kind of refuse to understand that.

From my posts, who can say that I believe in god? Hardly anyone. but I do, just do not spread it, as it is one of the most intimate topics in the WORLD.

From Ed's songs who can say he believes in god? Hardly anyone.

Because he says it TOO OFTEN


I'll bite.

We dont NEED Christian rock. It is out there. I enjoy it (along with many other formats). I will assume that I am not the only one. If you dont like it, then listen to something else.

I certainly dont like gangsta' rap. They scream about all they things they love (bitches & hoes, money, cars, etc). What's the difference?? Its all entertainment. Change the damn channel.

Faith is very personal, as you stated. But you can pick and choose what you listen to.


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post Jul 7 2010, 10:41 am
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QUOTE(+Ed+ @ Jul 7 2010, 11:34 am) *

You do not have sex?
You never smoked?
You never betraid?
You never stole?
You never got drunk and threw up?

There is much more to being a Christian than the things you listed.

Damn, where is that gotgrzasrsrz thread?
Wam, pass the wine


Look, if people can have the freedom to bash Christianity than I should have the freedom to defend it.

As for your questions, I've done and still do lots of bad things. If someone has led you to believe that Christians are perfect and don't do bad things, they are very misinformed.


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post Jul 7 2010, 10:41 am
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QUOTE(+Ed+ @ Jul 7 2010, 11:28 am) *

Fishy, without you this board would have been emptier. Thnk you so very much.


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WHY do you feel the need to scream about your love towards god? I kind of refuse to understand that.

From my posts, who can say that I believe in god? Hardly anyone. but I do, just do not spread it, as it is one of the most intimate topics in the WORLD.

From Ed's songs who can say he believes in god? Hardly anyone.

Because he says it TOO OFTEN


maybe ALIVE is Ed's penance for fucking over his friends? hehe.gif


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post Jul 7 2010, 10:44 am
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QUOTE(deepenoughtodive @ Jul 7 2010, 7:41 pm) *

Look, if people can have the freedom to bash Christianity than I should have the freedom to defend it.

As for your questions, I've done and still do lots of bad things. If someone has led you to believe that Christians are perfect and don't do bad things, they are very misinformed.
Have yu seen a single post on this board about bashing Christianity? Show it to me, please

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maybe ALIVE is Ed's penance for fucking over his friends? hehe.gif

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post Jul 7 2010, 10:47 am
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QUOTE(VoodooLady @ Jul 7 2010, 11:41 am) *

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maybe ALIVE is Ed's penance for fucking over his friends? hehe.gif



Here I thought it was a metaphor for the fact that he fucked over his friends/family and is still alive to carry on his career. In the mafia at least, if you go against the family you end up dead.


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post Jul 7 2010, 10:48 am
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QUOTE(+Ed+ @ Jul 7 2010, 11:44 am) *

Have yu seen a single post on this board about bashing Christianity? Show it to me, please
gheghe


If by "on this board", you meant this thread than you got me. You don't have to look hard to find negativity towards Christianity on this board though.


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post Jul 7 2010, 10:50 am
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QUOTE(deepenoughtodive @ Jul 7 2010, 7:48 pm) *

If by "on this board", you meant this thread than you got me. You don't have to look hard to find negativity towards Christianity on this board though.

Never saw a single post on that, sorry


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post Jul 7 2010, 8:47 pm
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QUOTE(+Ed+ @ Jul 7 2010, 11:28 am) *

Fishy, without you this board would have been emptier. Thnk you so very much. You also naiked my thought about the self-quotes which I purely hate.

And what is more, I do not understand, why the christians need christian rock. WTF? If you believe in god, keep your faith, help the handicapt, visit the church and pray.

What else?

WHY do you feel the need to scream about your love towards god? I kind of refuse to understand that.

From my posts, who can say that I believe in god? Hardly anyone. but I do, just do not spread it, as it is one of the most intimate topics in the WORLD.

From Ed's songs who can say he believes in god? Hardly anyone.

Because he says it TOO OFTEN


One of the core aspects of Christianity is conversion and proclamation. The bible demands of its readers to spread the word of Christ to the sinners and proclaim their adoration for him and his word. Music has, for centuries, been an important part of human expression. It only makes sense to meld an avenue of expression with proclamation and conversion especially since many Christians feel very passionate about their faith. They're taught very early on that their faith is awesome and it is a truly decent and kind thing to spread it to as many people as possible. After all, they have found what they were looking for in it, and it brought them great joy, so why not share that with as many people as they can find?


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post Jul 7 2010, 8:55 pm
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QUOTE(Infrequent Poster @ Jul 7 2010, 9:47 pm) *

One of the core aspects of Christianity is conversion and proclamation. The bible demands of its readers to spread the word of Christ to the sinners and proclaim their adoration for him and his word. Music has, for centuries, been an important part of human expression. It only makes sense to meld an avenue of expression with proclamation and conversion especially since many Christians feel very passionate about their faith. They're taught very early on that their faith is awesome and it is a truly decent and kind thing to spread it to as many people as possible. After all, they have found what they were looking for in it, and it brought them great joy, so why not share that with as many people as they can find?

very well said.


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Darn you Ed Kowalczyk!

Darn you for making me really like these Christian rock songs and making me sing things like "Setting my sights on the great beyond" and "Falling asleep at the wheel of my life" and "drink you like water, drinking you like freedom" and "if you can stand tall with me" at the top of my lungs in my car. These songs are anthemic.

I didn't think I would like this album. I thought the lyrics would obstruct my enjoyment of the songs. But I'll be darned if I don't really every song on this album except for Rome. I really like them. I can't get the melodies out of my head. It's even making me think about Christianity a bit. If it is a sign of good song writing that the song writer can get you to enjoy the music over your own very strenuous objections - then good job Ed. thumbsup.gif


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post Jul 8 2010, 10:42 am
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QUOTE(FishOutaWater @ Jul 9 2010, 1:38 am) *

Darn you Ed Kowalczyk!

Darn you for making me really like these Christian rock songs and making me sing things like "Setting my sights on the great beyond" and "Falling asleep at the wheel of my life" and "drink you like water, drinking you like freedom" and "if you can stand tall with me" at the top of my lungs in my car. These songs are anthemic.

I didn't think I would like this album. I thought the lyrics would obstruct my enjoyment of the songs. But I'll be darned if I don't really every song on this album except for Rome. I really like them. I can't get the melodies out of my head. It's even making me think about Christianity a bit. If it is a sign of good song writing that the song writer can get you to enjoy the music over your own very strenuous objections - then good job Ed. thumbsup.gif


haha that's crazy that it got to you like that. It just wont do it to me, i redownloaded it to give it another few tries and it just gets worse and worse for me sad.gif


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post Jul 8 2010, 10:56 am
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Damn, Fish, you are a worse Ed fanboy than me! Wahah!

Just you wait, I am getting my first car in about a week.... we'll see what I spin behind the wheel


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