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post Jul 4 2010, 2:16 pm
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I don't like this version at all. Candlebox's version is 1,000 times better (I probably shouldn't say version as it's their song). With Lakini's Juice, I thought the music was good but Kevin vocals were lacking. With Far Behind, I think Kevin Martin's voice is good but the music is lacking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZNtQB43vKU


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post Jul 4 2010, 4:59 pm
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QUOTE(LivesMeltdown @ Jul 4 2010, 2:16 pm) *

I don't like this version at all. Candlebox's version is 1,000 times better (I probably shouldn't say version as it's their song). With Lakini's Juice, I thought the music was good but Kevin vocals were lacking. With Far Behind, I think Kevin Martin's voice is good but the music is lacking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZNtQB43vKU



Yeah, I agree with you that Kevin doesnt sing LJ as good Ed does (yep, even the 2009 Ed on this song was much better than Chris). At least on the recording of 27-05-2010. Especially in the verses Chris sounds boring. Like Ed's band sounds like a bad coverband, here Kevin sounds in the verses like a bad coverband singer as well.

Don't say Kevin is a bad singer, he adds some amazing vocals to some TGF tracks. It's just too bad it happens on such a great song.

Oke smile.gif back on topic: Far Behind.


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post Jul 4 2010, 5:12 pm
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QUOTE(SecretInsomnia @ Jul 4 2010, 5:59 pm) *

Yeah, I agree with you that Kevin doesnt sing LJ as good Ed does (yep, even the 2009 Ed on this song was much better than Chris). At least on the recording of 27-05-2010. Especially in the verses Chris sounds boring. Like Ed's band sounds like a bad coverband, here Kevin sounds in the verses like a bad coverband singer as well.

Don't say Kevin is a bad singer, he adds some amazing vocals to some TGF tracks. It's just too bad it happens on such a great song.

Oke smile.gif back on topic: Far Behind.


Huh? I never said Kevin Martin was a bad singer. I had my doubts when he was announced but I think he sounds really good on the 2 studio songs I've heard from TGF, Honest Man and Trecedim. I'm sure he'll sounds just as good on the rest of the album.

Who's Chris? I'm so confused lol.gif


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post Jul 4 2010, 5:22 pm
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QUOTE(LivesMeltdown @ Jul 4 2010, 5:12 pm) *

Huh? I never said Kevin Martin was a bad singer. I had my doubts when he was announced but I think he sounds really good on the 2 studio songs I've heard from TGF, Honest Man and Trecedim. I'm sure he'll sounds just as good on the rest of the album.

Who's Chris? I'm so confused lol.gif


oh no doubt about he'll sound good on all the studio versions, I'm sure that is gonna be awesome. I said "I agree" because you said "With Lakini's Juice, I thought the music was good but Kevin vocals were lacking". And I never stated Kevin was a bad singer either wink.gif.

Haha, and about Chris. Who the hell is Chris, yeah! I was listening to (Chris) Daughtry at the moment I typed this, so it must have something to do with that. Can't come up with a better explanation huh.gif

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post Jul 4 2010, 5:28 pm
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QUOTE(SecretInsomnia @ Jul 4 2010, 6:22 pm) *

oh no doubt about he'll sound good on all the studio versions, I'm sure that is gonna be awesome. I said "I agree" because you said "With Lakini's Juice, I thought the music was good but Kevin vocals were lacking". And I never stated Kevin was a bad singer either wink.gif.

Haha, and about Chris. Who the hell is Chris, yeah! I was listening to (Chris) Daughtry at the moment I typed this, so it must have something to do with that. Can't come up with a better explanation huh.gif


Gotcha. I do, however, think as a whole they did a helluva lot better job covering Lakini's Juice than Far Behind. IMO, they ruined that song.



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post Jul 4 2010, 5:32 pm
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The reactions from the crowds when they have done Far Behind have been very good, so you might be in the minority here.


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post Jul 4 2010, 5:42 pm
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QUOTE(Aitkens @ Jul 4 2010, 6:32 pm) *

The reactions from the crowds when they have done Far Behind have been very good, so you might be in the minority here.


That might be so, but this world would be a boring place with everyone having the same opinion. Plus it wouldn't be the 1st time I'm in the minority of opinions whistle.gif

But if you want to judge it on crowds, it seems like crowds at Ed shows are giving his music and versions of Live songs great reactions also.

IMO though, each side is going to have a tough time matching the originals of Live and/or Candlebox songs as not everyone in the projects has a real emotional investment in the creation of the originals (CCP on Candlebox songs, Kevin/Sean and Ed's band on Live's songs). But that doesn't mean that their versions will be bad. I'll probably still get into them when I go to their shows which I can't wait for. Friday I see Ed and hopefully September TGF come around.

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post Jul 4 2010, 7:47 pm
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QUOTE(LivesMeltdown @ Jul 4 2010, 6:28 pm) *

Gotcha. I do, however, think as a whole they did a helluva lot better job covering Lakini's Juice than Far Behind. IMO, they ruined that song.


Ruined is way too harsh. Maybe it wasn't your cup of tea, but ruined? Really? I don't go to live performances to hear songs done exactly as they're done on the album. Live performances should add something to the song, whether it be extended instrumentals, lyrical manipulation, whatever. Bringing a change of pace to what is one of my favorite songs (not just Candlebox songs, all songs) was a perfect touch.

You may have not liked it. But they certainly did not ruin it.


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post Jul 4 2010, 7:57 pm
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QUOTE(ItchyTriggerFinger @ Jul 4 2010, 8:47 pm) *

Ruined is way too harsh. Maybe it wasn't your cup of tea, but ruined? Really? I don't go to live performances to hear songs done exactly as they're done on the album. Live performances should add something to the song, whether it be extended instrumentals, lyrical manipulation, whatever. Bringing a change of pace to what is one of my favorite songs (not just Candlebox songs, all songs) was a perfect touch.

You may have not liked it. But they certainly did not ruin it.


Far Behind is a great song, which I've always loved. I don't need or necessarily want to hear the exact same version of the song as cd, but I think the new arrangement made the song pretty bad. To me it sounds like a karoake version of the song. Now again, that's just my opinion. I'm sure others will love it and that's great. But this was just my opinion and to me they ruined the song.


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post Jul 4 2010, 9:32 pm
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I don't particularly like the new version of Far Behind either, but I am glad that they put their own spin on it rather than playing it straight up. That, I can appreciate even if I prefer the original. To say they ruined it is a bit crazy, after all it is Kevin's song and if he likes it then they didn't "ruin" it as far as I am concerned.

As far as Lakini's Juice, it just illustrates how much higher Kevin's voice is than Ed's. The song is low for him, so he is never going to sound as good singing it as he does the TGF and Candlebox tracks. He did sound a lot better on it at Fat Daddy's than at Summerfest, for what that's worth.

I'm intrigued to hear them do White, Discussion and Best Friend (by Candlebox) as those are much more interesting song choices to me.


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post Jul 4 2010, 10:59 pm
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Wow, I just watched that cover and the LJ cover. LJ is just brutal. Kevin's voice sucks.

I hope it sounds good on the album.


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post Jul 5 2010, 1:41 am
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QUOTE(Hoodstock @ Jul 5 2010, 7:59 am) *

Wow, I just watched that cover and the LJ cover. LJ is just brutal. Kevin's voice sucks.

I hope it sounds good on the album.

LJ?

On a TGF album???


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BTW I adore this version of Far Behind... Sorry, but still have not had a chance to listen to the original, but being a fan of the 90s music I definitely can imagine how it sounds.


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post Jul 5 2010, 3:14 am
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I like the original Far Behind, but I prefer this I think .. it has a little spring in it's step, a little funkier, that jangly guitar is a nice touch thumbsup.gif


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post Jul 5 2010, 6:07 am
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Looking back on yesterday, as some have pointed out, using the word "ruined" might have been a little harsh. When comparing this to the original, I find this version to be much worse in my opinion and that's what I was trying to say.

I'm actually more disappointed in the music of Far Behind than the vocals on TGF's Lakini's Juice.


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post Jul 5 2010, 7:17 am
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QUOTE(+Ed+ @ Jul 5 2010, 2:41 am) *

LJ?

On a TGF album???
Wicked.
BTW I adore this version of Far Behind... Sorry, but still have not had a chance to listen to the original, but being a fan of the 90s music I definitely can imagine how it sounds.

Sorry for the confusion, I was implying that I hope his voice sounds good on the album, not that LJ would be on it.


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