Alive, Has anyone heard the CD?? Options

[SecretInsomnia]

I agree with everyone this is far from what Live is. Still, I like several songs on the album. Like Drive, nice catchy song! And really good track as an opening song!

Also thanks for the link to Soul Whispers. Cool that Ed also plays such songs live. In Live he mostly refused to play the cool songs from an album...

[jayda]

..God, Water, Love, Daughters, Church ... they might really hit home to devote Christians, but I'm affraid the man has completely lost me.

38/120

What, no CHILD ???

[Bremang]

i don't mind all his talk about water because, given an ample water source, we should all stay hydrated in general. hopefully it reminds people to drink some agua.

[Pokey]

i don't mind all his talk about water because, given an ample water source, we should all stay hydrated in general. hopefully it reminds people to drink some agua.

Uh... that's one really practical way to look at it.

[Aitkens]

I think I'd rather dehydrate.

[Sakhmet2]

"yes the song of my soul is sweet like a blackbird 'gainst a night sky... human eyes can't see. but to feel it is salvation so wild and free, no destiny... no destiny." ~ Soul Whispers

How the hell is a blackbird sweet??

Com on say it is the freedom of the poet

Ïn Holland we are saying , what you are doiing now is "Mierenneuken" ( fucking ants)

No kidding. I think the English expression is "nitpicking".

I am assuming that no one here majored in literature, or we wouldn't be getting badman's complaint or

Soul Whispers - It's a terrible title. I listen to a lot of non english music. A lot of it is chinese, when they do a song in English it's not as if they have broken english or anything, but the titles are things like Soul Whispers, things that they might think would sound good in English but instead sound awkward. wtf is a soul whisper?

So do you think that the author who used the phrase dark rainbow bliss was a non-native speaker? Or how about the author of "Multifoliate rose"?

Or, since we're picking at a song title, let's not forget "Norwegian Wood", "Glass Onion", "A Hard Day's Night".

[Pokey]

So do you think that the author who used the phrase dark rainbow bliss was a non-native speaker? Or how about the author of "Multifoliate rose"?

Or, since we're picking at a song title, let's not forget "Norwegian Wood", "Glass Onion", "A Hard Day's Night".

Just because it's a terrible title doesn't mean that there aren't other terrible titles out there. It just sounds awkward and quite like something someone who's first language isn't English would come up with. That's not to say every bad song title is bad for that reason, just this particular one reminds me of that.

[Sakhmet2]

Just because it's a terrible title doesn't mean that there aren't other terrible titles out there. It just sounds awkward and quite like something someone who's first language isn't English would come up with. That's not to say every bad song title is bad for that reason, just this particular one reminds me of that.

All those titles I quoted were by the Beatles. Classic songs by a band whose lyrical contributions are regarded in some circles as highly as their musical ones. In other words, some of the greatest rock songs of all time.

The phrases in quotes were by D.H. Lawrence and T.S. Eliot. - the latter arguably the most influential and important English-language poet of the 20th century.

Talking about shooting yourself in the foot.

[Pokey]

All those titles I quoted were by the Beatles. Classic songs by a band whose lyrical contributions are regarded in some circles as highly as their musical ones. In other words, some of the greatest rock songs of all time.

The phrases in quotes were by D.H. Lawrence and T.S. Eliot. - the latter arguably the most influential and important English-language poet of the 20th century.

Talking about shooting yourself in the foot.

Just because the titles are bad doesn't mean the song is. I don't get your point. Even some of the greatest bands have come up with terrible titles for songs. All I said was that Soul Whispers is a terrible title and asked what the hell a soul whisper was and that it just reminded me of some song titles I have by non English speaking artists. It wasn't some great statement looking for an argument about song titles in general.

[ItchyTriggerFinger]

Sorry for the double post.

I think that every second Live disc has put it's predecessor into perspective...

MJ was followed by TC I know folks who only like MJ - they never gave TC a chance cuz it wass different.

TC was followed by SS lot of folks didn't like SS cuz of it's dark tones and seemingly detached lyrics so they clung to TC.

SS was followed by TDTH I remember reading a review where the guy said 'buy TDTH only if you really live LIVE' he hated it and ran a fan website!!! SS was all of a sudden golden because it was eschewed so fiercely by TDTH sonically and thematically.

TDTH was followed by V we heard it we hated It many still do - by comparison TDTH has heart and soul and purpose and a deeper voice along with meaning - V had rap and cheesy keyboards and 'ok?' - I love TDTH

V was followed by BOP hailed as a return to form BOP failed to capture the same interest as 'V' because most of the songs sound the same and the highlights were few and far between - later we find out the guitar solo in 'runaway' is cut and 'She' will never be played in concert inspite of thenfact ot kicks ass in it's entireity. Poor single choices also hurt.

BOP was followed by SFBM what can I say, immediately the joy of the record appealed to me but upon further listens 'Love Shines' becomes annoying the river formulaic and show and sofia overproduced - a travesty C,C, & P are quiet and forgettable. All of a sudden 'Heaven' 'Like I Do' Lighthouse' Out to dry and sweet release are legendary songs that remind me of what once was.

SFBM was followed by Alive - now I haven't heard it but from what pokey says - SFBM is now stand alone It is placed into perspective by the fact that no matter what Ed does he cannot replicat the sound those four boys from York pa make when they get together. We appreciate the CT runs on all I need bridge and the dahlheimer bass in sofia and CGs drums on everything - he is special. SFBM becomes the last of LIVE'S albums and can we appreciate it for that??? Buy 'Alive' and find out.

It's an interesting theory for sure, LM. I wouldn't be surprised if it held true for the majority of Live fans. However, I went in the other direction.

I enjoyed each album specifically because it wasn't what came before. I'm talking about the music, not the general themes, many of which had been there since the beginning. It doesn't mean that I liked the previous albums any less, just that I enjoyed the differences of the new. It probably explains why I like SFBM more than most did, because I figured like V, they were experimenting and I was happy to go along for the ride.

In the interest of full disclosure, I was pretty ignorant of the band politics at the time, otherwise, SFBM would've worried me more than it did at the time. But even then, Radiant Sea was released and I picked it up when Live played at a music festival here in NJ, and I quickly moved on. An authorized bootleg (hmmmm, oxymoron?) of Pillar of Davidson? Yes please!

[ItchyTriggerFinger]

No kidding. I think the English expression is "nitpicking".

I am assuming that no one here majored in literature, or we wouldn't be getting badman's complaint or

So do you think that the author who used the phrase dark rainbow bliss was a non-native speaker? Or how about the author of "Multifoliate rose"?

Or, since we're picking at a song title, let's not forget "Norwegian Wood", "Glass Onion", "A Hard Day's Night".

The Beatles were not above being a little silly. However, you may want to re-visit the idea of "A Hard Day's Night" being a silly title. If you listen to the song and examine the actual title, it fits the song perfectly.

[Sakhmet2]

Just because the titles are bad doesn't mean the song is. I don't get your point. Even some of the greatest bands have come up with terrible titles for songs.

Oh for fuck's sake.

I don't think the song titles were bad at all. That's why I picked them: to show that a song title doesn't have to be obvious to be good. Hence the remarks

All those titles I quoted were by the Beatles. Classic songs by a band whose lyrical contributions are regarded in some circles as highly as their musical ones. In other words, some of the greatest rock songs of all time.

The phrases in quotes were by D.H. Lawrence and T.S. Eliot. - the latter arguably the most influential and important English-language poet of the 20th century.

The Beatles were not above being a little silly. However, you may want to re-visit the idea of "A Hard Day's Night" being a silly title. If you listen to the song and examine the actual title, it fits the song perfectly.

Are you responding to me or Pokey? I know you've quoted me, but if you are responding to me, you didn't read my post all the way through.

This post has been edited by Sakhmet2: Jun 27 2010, 11:06 am

[Pokey]

Oh for fuck's sake.

I don't think the song titles were bad at all. That's why I picked them: to show that a song title doesn't have to be obvious to be good. Hence the remarks
Are you responding to me or Pokey? Because if you are responding to me, you didn't read my post all the way through.

You don't think the song title is that bad. I do. That's all there is to it. You quoted some random song titles for some reason which you may or may not like saying they're from a popular artist, I don't understand what they have to do with anything. You're right, song titles don't song titles don't have to be obvious to be good. But I still think Soul Whispers sounds terrible. I don't think it sounds creative, or obvious, or mysterious, or interesting .. it's just .. blah, Soul Whispers.
It just sounds to me like a title that is trying to be those things, deep and mysterious and such and it isn't. Just throwing "deep" words together like "Shadow spirit" or "Ancient wind" ... meh.

This post has been edited by Pokey: Jun 27 2010, 11:19 am

[ItchyTriggerFinger]

Oh for fuck's sake.

I don't think the song titles were bad at all. That's why I picked them: to show that a song title doesn't have to be obvious to be good. Hence the remarks
Are you responding to me or Pokey? I know you've quoted me, but if you are responding to me, you didn't read my post all the way through.

Ahh, my bad. I misunderstood. Carry on.

[LivesMeltdown]

I like the title "Soul Whispers" but what do I know