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post Jun 23 2010, 7:13 pm
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I think the sales of the last 3 albums speak to my opinion very loudly.


So if The Gracious Few's album doesn't sell well, it will be due to its lack of quality?
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post Jun 23 2010, 7:16 pm
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QUOTE(OutToDry @ Jun 23 2010, 6:06 pm) *
You honestly like the crap they (Ed) has brought out? I feel cheated when I bought SFBM and listened to it and was really pissed by what I heard on most of it.........I should have returned it, but I didn't.

See Fish's excerpt, he's summed it nicely.


Yea that sucks. That was the only Live album I dl'ed and didn't buy. Not worth the $. But still....just cause Ed/they sucked doesn't mean they wanted to be bad, not trying to intentionally screw people or cheat people.


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post Jun 23 2010, 7:35 pm
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jun 23 2010, 8:13 pm) *


So if The Gracious Few's album doesn't sell well, it will be due to its lack of quality?




I think it will sell better than you think. It's an original sound and will attract not only Live & Cbox fans, but others of the genre.



We aren't going to debate the last 3 sucky selling Live albums yet again ad nauseum..
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post Jun 23 2010, 7:37 pm
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Jun 23 2010, 8:16 pm) *


Yea that sucks. That was the only Live album I dl'ed and didn't buy. Not worth the $. But still....just cause Ed/they sucked doesn't mean they wanted to be bad, not trying to intentionally screw people or cheat people.




You misconstrue my words..........C&C&P were not allowed to write any music for this 'solo' album. Ed's ultimatum ensured this. I feel cheated because it is so far away from the Old Live, I felt ripped off after reading Ed's ramblings of I promise this record will sound like TC shit....listened to it and said what a rip off.
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post Jun 23 2010, 8:01 pm
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QUOTE(Sakhmet2 @ Jun 23 2010, 5:21 pm) *

Jeez I begin to sympathize with Brem.

I will spell it out - again.

It means that it doesn't matter what Ed does, some people will use it as "proof" that he has been "cheating" the fans and ruined Live blahblahblah, even if they contradict people supposedly making the same argument.


Don't bitch at me, I've made no argument in this thread about Ed cheating the fans. I got your point, I just don't really see what it adds to either side of the argument.
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post Jun 23 2010, 8:03 pm
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Jun 23 2010, 5:40 pm) *

You said you didn't understand me twice on this thread, and two other times on the boards. Its just a pattern, I didn't realize you were sarcastic this last time, it looked genuine...So you just think it is stupid.


I have no clue when those other two times were, but the first time in this thread wasn't in reference to anything that you said.
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post Jun 23 2010, 8:04 pm
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And to actually add something to the thread besides defending my own understanding of an argument that I am hardly a part of, I think all of this talk of anyone "cheating the fans" is completely inane.
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post Jun 23 2010, 8:05 pm
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QUOTE(OutToDry @ Jun 23 2010, 8:37 pm) *

You misconstrue my words..........C&C&P were not allowed to write any music for this 'solo' album. Ed's ultimatum ensured this.


Didn't Chad Taylor help write Purifier after Ed's "ultimatum?"
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post Jun 23 2010, 8:10 pm
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Purifier is not on an offical album release, it's an indie compilation with 2 songs. probably a loop hole there.
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post Jun 23 2010, 8:12 pm
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QUOTE(OutToDry @ Jun 23 2010, 9:10 pm) *

Purifier is not on an offical album release, it's an indie compilation with 2 songs. probably a loop hole there.


A loophole with Believe too?
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jun 23 2010, 9:05 pm) *

Didn't Chad Taylor help write Purifier after Ed's "ultimatum?"


This was discussed to death in the court case thread and it was agreed that no one knows why Chad was credited on the song, but some speculate that it was a) because Paradiso was not a full Live album or b) it was a song written before the ultimatum.
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post Jun 23 2010, 8:20 pm
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It has to be something written from a while ago.....They weren't allowed to write past 2005. Ad Nauseum
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post Jun 23 2010, 8:22 pm
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QUOTE(OutToDry @ Jun 23 2010, 9:20 pm) *

It has to be something written from a while ago.....They weren't allowed to write past 2005. Ad Nauseum


What about Believe? Ed mentioned on Twitter it was a new Live song.
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post Jun 23 2010, 8:23 pm
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Either way, once again, I don't really understand what any of this has to do with the original subject matter of that debate. This thread has strayed so far from its beginnings that it is comical.

Internet arguments are the BEST.

Also, can we just get one thread where Nick and OTD can argue by themselves?

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post Jun 23 2010, 8:26 pm
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jun 23 2010, 9:22 pm) *

What about Believe? Ed mentioned on Twitter it was a new Live song.



How many times did Ed lie about the origins and time-line of "Overcome"?
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