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post Jun 21 2010, 10:55 am
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QUOTE(sallyinpa @ Jun 21 2010, 11:54 am) *

I was there too and I didn't see it that way. A wise person once told me that the way you see things depends on where you are standing. Hmmmm, fairly intuitive smile.gif

But this would apply to you too, of course smile.gif


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QUOTE(tiger @ Jun 21 2010, 11:06 am) *
I'd hardly call 10% riding the gravy train,

It was diet gravy lol.gif


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post Jun 21 2010, 10:58 am
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post Jun 21 2010, 10:59 am
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QUOTE(sallyinpa @ Jun 22 2010, 1:50 am) *

There was no Gracious Few prior to the "end" of LIVE. Chad, Chad and Pat are very talented all on their own. Anyone of the three could make a nice living without the others. It is, infact, friendship that kept them together. I personally find it difficult to understand why that concept is so hard for people to understand. Think what you will but that's the truth!


Exactly, I mean as Taylor has said he didn't get the call from Gracey and Pat until after Live had gone on the break so it wasn't as if they finally decided to break up Live because they knew the next cash cow was around the corner. As far as I know when the split happend it was off into the unknown for them. But hell Gracey with his business (something automotive I think), CT with his film production and Pat is just way too talented to keep the man down I'm sure he's got things going on ... it's not as if they would end up broke and homeless if they left Live. And unless they lived WAY above their means they'd already have more money put away than any of us are likely to make. So anyone that says money was also the main motivator to keeping Live together for them needs to think more.


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post Jun 21 2010, 11:03 am
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Yeah...i guess that is true.


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post Jun 21 2010, 11:04 am
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QUOTE(Pokey @ Jun 21 2010, 8:59 am) *

Exactly, I mean as Taylor has said he didn't get the call from Gracey and Pat until after Live had gone on the break so it wasn't as if they finally decided to break up Live because they knew the next cash cow was around the corner. As far as I know when the split happend it was off into the unknown for them. But hell Gracey with his business (something automotive I think), CT with his film production and Pat is just way too talented to keep the man down I'm sure he's got things going on ... it's not as if they would end up broke and homeless if they left Live. And unless they lived WAY above their means they'd already have more money put away than any of us are likely to make. So anyone that says money was also the main motivator to keeping Live together for them needs to think more.


And when they decided to accept Ed's demands and continue for 10% each it's laughable to suggest they did it for the money. That applies to the guy who demanded 70%.


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post Jun 21 2010, 11:05 am
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QUOTE(Sakhmet2 @ Jun 21 2010, 11:55 am) *

But this would apply to you too, of course smile.gif




Absolutely, my point exactly. So, we are right back where we began. There are those who know all the details and those who don't. There are those who see what they want to see and those who see something else. Am I going to spill all I know on a message board? Seriously not but it doesn't change what I do infact know. Just trying to point out that what you see isn't always what you get!


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QUOTE(mattyeagles @ Jun 21 2010, 11:46 am) *

i was at the concert - def were mocking ed and no they werent wearing ed masks


The main mocking too place during Forever, and it was obvious. Which show were you at Matt?


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post Jun 21 2010, 11:20 am
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jun 22 2010, 2:15 am) *

The main mocking too place during Forever, and it was obvious. Which show were you at Matt?


So what exactly happend?? What terrible, terrible thing did C,C&P do that made Ed invent a time machine to go back in time and steal money from them just to spite their mocking of him for no reason at all??


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post Jun 21 2010, 11:21 am
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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jun 21 2010, 12:15 pm) *

The main mocking too place during Forever, and it was obvious. Which show were you at Matt?






Obvious to YOU not to the group of people with/around us!


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post Jun 21 2010, 11:22 am
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Wasn't there footage of this? I recall watching it. anyone care to post it? If not for me then do it for Pokey lol.gif


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post Jun 21 2010, 11:28 am
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QUOTE(Sonic Tonic @ Jun 22 2010, 2:22 am) *

Wasn't there footage of this? I recall watching it. anyone care to post it? If not for me then do it for Pokey lol.gif


Yeah do it for Pokey!


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QUOTE(Sakhmet2 @ Jun 21 2010, 4:18 pm) *

Late thirties, actually. Pushing 40.
Pat was 39 at end of May, Ed and Chad G will be 29 next month, Chad T. will be 40 in Nov.


29 you say? They both look a bit haggard, then. Poor guys.


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QUOTE(sallyinpa @ Jun 21 2010, 12:21 pm) *

Obvious to YOU not to the group of people with/around us!


This is one argument that shouldn't engage in. For all the shit I take, the one thing I am is perceptive. I posted after the NH show that Live was done just from their lack of stage interactions. Everyone ripped me a new a-hole, but it was true.

Chad, Pat, and Chad acted like passive aggressive teenagers on stage in NY and especially Cleveland. They tried to undermine Ed, but just came off looking ridiculous themselves.



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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Jun 21 2010, 12:41 pm) *

This is one argument that shouldn't engage in. For all the shit I take, the one thing I am is perceptive. I posted after the NH show that Live was done just from their lack of stage interactions. Everyone ripped me a new a-hole, but it was true.

Chad, Pat, and Chad acted like passive aggressive teenagers on stage in NY and especially Cleveland. They tried to undermine Ed, but just came off looking ridiculous themselves.



THEY tried to undermine ED!!!! THEY tried to undermine ED????? Whoa, you have that somewhat turned around. Wow. Think I'm done here.


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