Ed's Bootlegs (inc. Supreme Court summons), not so legal after all? Options

[crazy1]

Can we make a rule that no one can post about this until they actually read the document and try to understand that?

I think this thread would be cut in half.

I agree!


Man! I still can't get over #29!!!

[thefunkyredcaboose]

I agree!
Man! I still can't get over #29!!!

It is not surprising at all though, and frighteningly close to how I imagined it went down. This isn't the first time a frontman has pulled the same thing.

[Sakhmet2]

A better direct link to the pdf: http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/C_...67-2010&FName=0

So here it is. Now no one has any excuse not to read it.

This post has been edited by Sakhmet2: Jun 14 2010, 8:40 pm

[BoDoctor]

Eddie,Eddie,Eddie....damn. Nick, in the end you will support TGF because the green you spend on Eddie will be forked over to Chad, Chad, and Pat!

[SJN1279]

Eddie,Eddie,Eddie....damn. Nick, in the end you will support TGF because the green you spend on Eddie will be forked over to Chad, Chad, and Pat!

And in turn they'll spend it on worthless billboards....circle of life.

[Sonic Tonic]

Once again this fits well:

Who are you to wave your finger?
You must have been outta your head
Eye hole deep in muddy waters
You practically raised the dead

Rob the grave to snow the cradle
Then burn the evidence down
Soapbox house of cards and glass so
Don't go tossin' your stones around

You must have been high
You must have been high
You must have been

Foot in mouth and head up ass-hole
Whatcha talkin' 'bout?
Difficult to dance 'round this one
'til you pull it out, boy

You must have been so high
You must have been so high

This post has been edited by Sonic Tonic: Jun 14 2010, 9:03 pm

[LiveFan92]

It's kind of funny to watch a group of people who are SO CERTAIN their view is correct call another person, who is also CERTAIN his view is correct, delusional.



It's kind of like watching a comedy about a mental hospital. You know, one of those funny Hollywood mental hospitals, not the real life ones where everyone's all emo.



Oh yeah, and:

[Sonic Tonic]

oh quite the comedy. I've been watchign this show from the beginning. Best thing on the internet. Just like the gif I posted of MJ eating popcorn at the movies. Just like that man. Minus I'm white and not rich, and alive.

oh and my posts are just the commercial breaks.

This post has been edited by Sonic Tonic: Jun 14 2010, 9:37 pm

[thefunkyredcaboose]

It's kind of funny to watch a group of people who are SO CERTAIN their view is correct call another person, who is also CERTAIN his view is correct, delusional.



It's kind of like watching a comedy about a mental hospital. You know, one of those funny Hollywood mental hospitals, not the real life ones where everyone's all emo.



Oh yeah, and:

What are your thoughts on the court document?

[thefunkyredcaboose]

And in turn they'll spend it on worthless billboards....circle of life.

I bet you don't even know how much an electronic billboard costs. Here's a hint: it isn't as much as you think it is.

[Sonic Tonic]

I bet you don't even know how much an electronic billboard costs. Here's a hint: it isn't as much as you think it is.

I slept on one and let me tells ya, they ain't that well built (neither was I after it all went wrong). Can't cost that much.

[Infrequent Poster]

Damn. It'll be settled but still, damn.

Think I'm going to pass on Eddie's next CD out of principle. New information may change that belief but for now I'll pass.

[Sakhmet2]

There are 5 counts of fraud.
a) Breach of Fiduciary Duty (Levin & DLBM)
b) Aiding and Abetting Breach of Fiduciary Duty (Ed & FVI)
c) Breach of Contract (Ed)
d) Tortious Interference with Contract (Levin, DLBM & FVI)
e) Equitable Accounting (Levin & DLBM)

I have just re-read this and checked a couple of things.
Firstly, these charges are not charges of "fraud" which, as I understand it, is a very specific legal offense in the United States. Amongst the qualifying factors for fraud are: 1. false statements which specifically affect someone's decision to pursue a certain course of action; 2. knowledge on the part of the accused that the statement is untrue; 3. intent to deceive and deny someone their legal rights; 4. the alleged victim must rely on this advice; 5. the alleged victim must be injured by this act.
Now in the document filed by Pat and the Chads, there is a very clear attempt to prove all of these 5 factors were present in the actions of Levin & DLBM, and that some or all of these factors were present in the charges against Ed (aiding & abetting and breach of contract) and FVI. However, the term "fraud" is nowhere used in all 16 pages of the document. Instead, "breach of fiduciary duty" is the major charge against Levin and DLBM - this, although serious, is not the same thing as fraud. It is basically a betrayal of trust, a failure to satisfy the ethical and legal obligations.
I don't know whether this is because of some fine point of definition of NYS law I don't understand (being neither a contract lawyer nor American), but the distinction interests me intellectually.

This post has been edited by Sakhmet2: Jun 14 2010, 10:30 pm

[Sonic Tonic]

Damn. It'll be settled but still, damn.

Think I'm going to pass on Eddie's next CD out of principle. New information may change that belief but for now I'll pass.

I might buy it, need new coaster. After the fall from a cheap billboard I like to enjoy tea a fucking lot, and I'll be damned if I get rings on my tea table.

[Pokey]

Well that was quite the read..
Nick you are an absolute bloody idiot. You're so fucking desperate for Ed to come out of this as the good guy you're really grasping at straws. You're implication that so long as it's a settlement then everything will be ok is ridiculous. In your mind it seems, so long as the judge doesn't actually say the words "guilty" then Ed has done absolutely nothing wrong.