TGF v. Ed Success Options

[OutToDry]

did you just spill the beans that 92 is Nick?

[sh4rpz]

That's the key question.

I think, if they both put out the albums THEY want to put out, them they're both successful in the way that counts as an artist.

You may think what Ed is doing is shit, but if he's digging it, then it's working for him, and that's cool. He's obviously not making his brand of music for you.

There will be folks who think TGF's music is shit, too, you know? That doesn't make it anymore true than those who don't like Ed's music.

It's all subjective.

So I would say success is defined by the goals you set for yourself.

yep. agree.

I think most of us here get it and pretty much know what sound we're more in favour of. I'll probably pick up Ed's CD even though it won't be my favourite stuff he's done in his career.

This post has been edited by sh4rpz: May 22 2010, 6:05 pm

[Bremang]

That's the key question.

I think, if they both put out the albums THEY want to put out, them they're both successful in the way that counts as an artist.

You may think what Ed is doing is shit, but if he's digging it, then it's working for him, and that's cool. He's obviously not making his brand of music for you.

There will be folks who think TGF's music is shit, too, you know? That doesn't make it anymore true than those who don't like Ed's music.

It's all subjective.

So I would say success is defined by the goals you set for yourself.

All that is true about the nature of success, but the original poster was polling in regards to success defined by album sales, general public perception and reputation.

[Sakhmet2]

did you just spill the beans that 92 is Nick?

What? Who?

This post has been edited by Sakhmet2: May 22 2010, 9:03 pm

[Hoodstock]

I'm being honest with myself. Although it bugs me I'd say Ed.

1st off - both of these bands are older and honestly will struggle to develop young fans. If you disagree then fine, but I firmly believe this. (I don't see Chad Taylor posters on any high school kids walls happening again). They are past that market, so they have to rely on the middle age crowd which devotes less income to music.

Ed will be touring as Ed - lead singer of Live. He also will present a familiar sound because he is the voice of Live. People are familiar with it and the brand Live.

I have to say Kevin, lead singer of Candlebox, although somewhat known, simply does not carry the same weight. The sound also has no nestalgia to it. Kevin simply sounds different and I think the difference in sound will actually cost the band members from both bases. I think that will ultimately leave them with a minute following.

TGF has no name recongnition at all and unless they get on the air, which may or may not happen, I think they'll struggle to develop a substantial fanbase. The only people really aware and care that TGF exist are dedicated Live and Candlebox fans. As you guys know those numbers have been dwindling for years.

Ed will always appeal to the casual Live fan because of the voice.

In the end, however, I think it's safe to say that on any tour these groups will always be opening acts unless they are going for the extremely small venues on their own.

This post has been edited by Hoodstock: May 22 2010, 10:00 pm

[OutToDry]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p4T7_XI7WM...player_embedded

[OutToDry]

What? Who?

Yeah you let it slip......Mr Tunisia 92 = (Tatooie) - Yoda / Star Wars reference (Nick), 92's time zone = to Nick's and same time too. 92 signs off, Nick signs on........Nice when the admin has to alias too.

This post has been edited by OutToDry: May 22 2010, 10:41 pm

[SJN1279]

Yeah you let it slip......Mr Tunisia 92 = (Tatooie) - Yoda / Star Wars reference (Nick), 92's time zone = to Nick's and same time too. 92 signs off, Nick signs on........Nice when the admin has to alias too.

What the hell are you talking about?

[OutToDry]

Please admit to this fine group that you're using an alias here.

[OutToDry]

so you log off w/o answering......what I expected

[SJN1279]

so you log off w/o answering......what I expected

No I am not. What do you think my alias would be? I believe Aitkens is taken by you.

[OutToDry]

Right, why admit it, you'd look more foolish. If you can freaking read, then I can't help you there man.

[OutToDry]

No, Mr. Aitkens is not me, and I know who he is.

I have one account.

[SJN1279]

Right, why admit it, you'd look more foolish. If you can freaking read, then I can't help you there man.

Is there any reason for the hostility towards me tonight?

[OutToDry]

Iam not being hostile, I asked a simple question. Admit it kid, are you LiveFan92 (Your posting style is the same). I think Sak let it slip