Ed responds to allegations, Well, sorta Options

[Pokey]

Most bands don't make 20 years with the original line-up. The guys from Live needed a well-deserved break from each other.

Ed has the ability to tour around as a solo act for many years to come. TGF will have a tougher time having any type of real longevity.

That's because Ed just does the same old, same old, same old .. relying on the same tired people coming to each show, seeing the same songs over and over. It's safe, it's commercial, it's Ed.

TGF are exploring new boundries of themselves, it's what musical artists do, they try to grow. Ed isn't doing anything different than what he was doing with SFBM except it's with new people who will probably give him less lip and that he doesn't have to feel guilty about for earning more money than them.

[+Ed+]

. Just because Chad Taylor has diarrhea of the mouth

That is the guitarist of the band you still are (or was?) worshipping. Have some fucking respect, please.

Its good to know that Ed is so focused on his music and ignoring the very guys and band that afford him these wonderful opportunities. I also find it complete bullshit when he talked about needing a change after 20 years. U2 is doing just fine and they've been together for 30+ years.

Ah sure. A good statement! Wooo! How does it go together with the fact that Lynyrd Skynyrd have been around 40 years with constant change of line-up and still are alive and kicking? Or the tremendous La's, who only released 1 album and still remain one of the biggest British acts?

This post has been edited by +Ed+: May 4 2010, 1:04 pm

[+Ed+]

CAMAAAAAAAAN, LOADSA PEOPLE ONLINE! LET'S CHAAAAAAT!

[brandedwendy]

I agree with Dmitri... don't disrespect people that were in a band you liked.

And having said that.... I don't give a rats A.. which one of the 4 yuo pick to pick on..... just don;t do it

[thefunkyredcaboose]

Most bands do not go into great detail concerning the cause of their break-up, because it is their own personal business. Just because Chad Taylor has diarrhea of the mouth, doesn't mean Ed should join the fray. All that would result is a bitter online argument that wouldn't have a winner.

Ed is doing the right thing by focusing on his music, and not the petty bullshit caused by TGF.

How much does Ed pay you to spin everything in his favor? I'm not sure why I'm bothering since it is like arguing with a wall, but anywho...

A lot of bands reveal details about their break-ups. Nothing that you post on here leads me to believe you pay attention to many bands though, so it is unsurprising that you would say that.

Both Chads and Pat were all a part of the e-mail and have been a part of communicating with fans ever since. Quite frankly, your personal vendetta against Chad Taylor is more than a little disturbing.

And last but not least, TGF did not cause any of this. I don't see how based on any of the evidence that could be claimed. They gave the fans of Live a reason for the break-up. Ed, instead, ignored the break-up entirely.

As for my opinion on Ed's response, well, he didn't really say anything.

[Pokey]

How much does Ed pay you to spin everything in his favor? I'm not sure why I'm bothering since it is like arguing with a wall, but anywho...

A lot of bands reveal details about their break-ups. Nothing that you post on here leads me to believe you pay attention to many bands though, so it is unsurprising that you would say that.

Both Chads and Pat were all a part of the e-mail and have been a part of communicating with fans ever since. Quite frankly, your personal vendetta against Chad Taylor is more than a little disturbing.

And last but not least, TGF did not cause any of this. I don't see how based on any of the evidence that could be claimed. They gave the fans of Live a reason for the break-up. Ed, instead, ignored the break-up entirely.

As for my opinion on Ed's response, well, he didn't really say anything.

You've got it all wrong man ... ok so Ed went behind his life long friend's back, screwed them out of money, played the power game asking for more money in concert for doing the same amount of work as everyone else ... you know, that's all forgivable. What is absolutely reprehensible and downright disgusting is that Chad Taylor brought all of it to light! How dare Chad expose the ill-dealings of Ed. Chad Taylor should be ashamed of himself.


Did I do that right, Nick?

[SecretInsomnia]

Ed has ackowledged that Live isn't working together anymore, but he is leaving the door open for a reunion.

Chad Taylor says that its a permanent break-up, that he never wants to see Ed again, etc. and is going to look like a total asshole when he crawls back to Ed's side in a few years.

Never say never, and always leave the door open.

Well you (and probably many) forget that (if it's all true, ofcourse) Chad told that he was surprised/shocked/angry when they found out about the Ed-2005-contract, but that he (or they) tried everything to contact Ed, contacting him in any way, just to ask: why this has happened. You understand: Chad was (if it's true, again) the one being betrayed, but still tried to make a bridge between Ed and them. According to Chad: he refused. So if ANYONE was willing to keep a door open, it was Chad. His statement he never saw Live reunited in the future, came after that.

This post has been edited by SecretInsomnia: May 4 2010, 12:59 pm

[OutToDry]

Most bands don't make 20 years with the original line-up. The guys from Live needed a well-deserved break from each other.

Ed has the ability to tour around as a solo act for many years to come. TGF will have a tougher time having any type of real longevity.

I think your opinion here doesn't look beyond the nose on your face Nick.

I think TGF will be the beginning of a lot of open doors for Pat, Chad & Chad.

This post has been edited by OutToDry: May 4 2010, 1:01 pm

[SecretInsomnia]

Gert-Jan thanks for posting the interview! You don't post here often, but if you do if it's always quality posting!

[Infrequent Poster]

Not going to speak a whole lot on what Ed said about the break, as he didn't really say anything, other then to say that I partially agree with Nick. Specifically I agree with him that it would serve Ed no benefit to go into any detail about the break up. People have chosen sides (TGF, Ed, or the "fuck it all, let's just hear some goddamn music" side) and providing his perspective is just going to aggravate an already festering wound. Even if you believe everything Chad said is a lie it's still extremely unlikely Ed was a perfect saint through all of this and talking publicly about it would not bring any of the TGFers over, and stands a good chance of pushing some of the "don't cares" away. Saying he didn't notice it was a stupid answer, though. Ed, just because everyone assumes you're a spacey individual doesn't mean we don't have limits to what we believe. A simple "no comment" or "it's a private matter" would have sufficed and not made you sound like a ninny.

What line really caught my eye in the article was this one: "People will be amazed at the rock level. Think a little on the Live from the mid-nineties. The album will be available early this summer and is preceded by a single. This is one of the harder songs I've made so far."

Seriously?

I mean, seriously!?

You said that about BOP. Hell, if I remember right, you even said that about SFBM. Grace is one of the harder songs you've made so far? Seriously? It's catchy, don't get me wrong, but it's Daughtry faux-rock. Just because you turned the guitars up a few notches doesn't mean it's rock and roll. It simply does not hold water with anything off TC or SS, hell, Face and Ghost would kick its ass and steal its lunch money too. Stop with the false advertising. You're not fooling anyone anymore, just admit to what it is, pop-rock. If that's what you want to do that's fine and dandy, just be honest about it. You'd stand a much better chance winning and keeping fans by being honest about what you're putting out then by selling them a lie.

[Pokey]

The other thing is, it's clear now that Ed would never have brought any of the break-up up ... he just wanted to bury his head in the sand and be done with it.

Before CT made his statement, even you would have to agree Nick, that things were getting way out of hand with the rumours. Whether they "owed" us an explanation or not, I dunno. But if nothing at all was said then it could have been a lot worse. Your argument of not many bands talking about their break-ups is bullshit. It's clear you listen to way too much commercially driven music, bands that are run tightly by record companies. That isn't surprisingly given your view on music either. It's no wonder the bands that you listen to don't go into details of break ups, they've most likely got their own spin doctors working for them. As you say, it could be "bad for business", and whats more important than sales in the music industry right? Certainly not art, creativity, honesty with fans etc... It's best to just keep your trap shut and the dollars rolling in.
However, not all bands are like this ... a lot have real people with real emotions behind them. Artists, people who aren't controlled by their record label. These people do talk about the break ups of their bands publicly because it's not always about protecting yours or others image for the sake of money. Some times the truth just needs to be told ... and heaps of bands do this. Just because you're so damn narrow minded and have such a narrow view on music doesn't mean there isn't a whole world of it going on.
I commend CT for speaking his mind and telling his side of the story, and I wish Ed would do the same. Just because you don't like what he has to say doesn't make him wrong for saying it.

[thefunkyredcaboose]

You've got it all wrong man ... ok so Ed went behind his life long friend's back, screwed them out of money, played the power game asking for more money in concert for doing the same amount of work as everyone else ... you know, that's all forgivable. What is absolutely reprehensible and downright disgusting is that Chad Taylor brought all of it to light! How dare Chad expose the ill-dealings of Ed. Chad Taylor should be ashamed of himself.

No, see, none of that is true. You are forgetting about Ed's side. Like, he asked for the lead singer bonus because he didn't want to do the gig and he knew that would get him out of it. Also, he had to sign the contract in secret because he was the one doing EVERYTHING and the other guys wanted the same amount of money for just playing with their wankers. So, it was perfectly okay for him to sign a new deal without their knowledge to get all of his money, even though, we don't even know what songs the deal applied to. He really deserved the most credit for all of Live's music because his voice is what made them famous, so that makes it a-okay.

And he is also a Christian and Christians never do stuff that fucks other people over. So, that is why Chad Taylor is an awful person.

[thefunkyredcaboose]

Not going to speak a whole lot on what Ed said about the break, as he didn't really say anything, other then to say that I partially agree with Nick. Specifically I agree with him that it would serve Ed no benefit to go into any detail about the break up.

The problem with that is, Ed managed to ignore the break-up almost completely. No blog, few tweets, and just a bunch of nothing.

I am not saying he had to respond to what the other guys said, but to not even reflect on it at all in a public forum is just strange and honestly, pretty sad.

CT gets a little too emotional, but I prefer that overwhelmingly to Ed who seemingly didn't give a flying fuck about his band of 20 years. To me, that is really telling.

[+Ed+]

Awright, would it than be better if a holywar online would have blasted?

Doesn't Ed behave well enough in some way not to get it all grown?

Or you all really wanna drown in dirty linnen?

[Pokey]

Awright, would it than be better if a holywar online would have blasted?

Doesn't Ed behave well enough in some way not to get it all grown?

Or you all really wanna drown in dirty linnen?

I just prefer the truth to come out ... it's gone this far.

Again I bring up The Smiths, as they're the only other band who's breaking up I've seen as such a big deal. In a way it was similar to Live where by the initial break up wasn't exactly all that bad, the unrepairable damage came after the breakup when the law suits began.

But it's been years and years now, everyone's side of the story is out, and they are actually all the same story, just with different points of view. No one deny's anything that happend really, it's just everyone has given their reason on why certain things happend, or why they did what they did etc... in a way it's all the truth, it's just up to anyone in particular to choose how they wish to view it. Something like that is the best I could hope for with Live.