Ed responds to allegations, Well, sorta Options

[Kymra]

That's bullshit and he knows it. I'm sure he read every single thing that was written about him. I too (and I'm sure many people) focus on other things when facing something they don't wanna face.
And if it is true then thanks for neglecting to explain your side of the story to all the Live fans.
Not shitting on Ed, I just want his side of the story and so far his statements are vague cop outs.

Exactly right. He's got far too big of an ego to not read everything written about him.

I also find it sad that he said he 'didn't focus any attention' on the allegations. It's too bad, Ed, because you lost a significant portion of your fan base during that time.

[LiveFan92]

"I had enormous appetite for change."

Oh, snap, look at that shot he took at TGF!!!!!! They are going to be pissed!!!!!!!!!

(Since this is like some bad high school break-up or whatever, according to posters on this board.)

[FishOutaWater]

I think that interview is very enlightening actually. I hate to say it, but Ed's response is pretty much the response I would expect from a guilty person who did what he was accused of. I have been in enough arguments with people to know that when someone is wrong and they have an ego, they think that they were not wrong, there was just a "misunderstanding" and it is not in their character to do the things they were accused of. Few people can look in the mirror when they are fighting with someone else and see themselves for what they are. Most people have an ego that tells them thhat although the facts they are confronted with may be true, there is a "misunderstanding" because they aren't a bad person. He certainly didn't deny the facts. If someone didn't sign publishing contracts to exclude his 3 band-mates or ask for a lead singer signing bonus, the reasonable response would be - that didn't happen, I never signed any contracts or ask for a bonus.

And for him to say that he paid no attention to the serious allegations made against him and the responses, or focus at all on the destruction of the band he has been in for 20 years and that sold millions of albums and friendships with his best friends who now hate him and won't talk to him, is ridiculous. Absolutely ridifculous. I'm calling bullshit here. And it is insulting to me that he thinks he can even say that as if someone will accept it. Nobody, I mean nobody is that detatched from the world and their personal feelings and relatinships. Especially not someone this focused on commercialism and fans and his career. These accusations go straight to the heart of his career. The end of Live directly hits his pocketbook. And he didn't focus on it? And if he is that detatched, and he did not spend any time thinking about his band, his fans and his friends, then he has some serious sociopathic issues. But I don't believe that for a minute. The fact that he thinks his fans will just accept this - "Oh, Ed hasn't given any thought to the end of his lifelong band, lifelong friendships and public damage to his professional credibility because he was so focused on the new album" is insulting to the intelligence and maturity of his fans. His one and only tweet about the accusatoins was correct, his fans do deserve better than this. But I don't know that we will ever hear it.

[Pokey]

I think that interview is very enlightening actually. I hate to say it, but Ed's response is pretty much the response I would expect from a guilty person who did what he was accused of. I have been in enough arguments with people to know that when someone is wrong and they have an ego, they think that they were not wrong, there was just a "misunderstanding" and it is not in their character to do the things they were accused of. Few people can look in the mirror when they are fighting with someone else and see themselves for what they are. Most people have an ego that tells them thhat although the facts they are confronted with may be true, there is a "misunderstanding" because they aren't a bad person. He certainly didn't deny the facts. If someone didn't sign publishing contracts to exclude his 3 band-mates or ask for a lead singer signing bonus, the reasonable response would be - that didn't happen, I never signed any contracts or ask for a bonus.

And for him to say that he paid no attention to the serious allegations made against him and the responses, or focus at all on the destruction of the band he has been in for 20 years and that sold millions of albums and friendships with his best friends who now hate him and won't talk to him, is ridiculous. Absolutely ridifculous. I'm calling bullshit here. And it is insulting to me that he thinks he can even say that as if someone will accept it. Nobody, I mean nobody is that detatched from the world and their personal feelings and relatinships. Especially not someone this focused on commercialism and fans and his career. These accusations go straight to the heart of his career. The end of Live directly hits his pocketbook. And he didn't focus on it? And if he is that detatched, and he did not spend any time thinking about his band, his fans and his friends, then he has some serious sociopathic issues. But I don't believe that for a minute. The fact that he thinks his fans will just accept this - "Oh, Ed hasn't given any thought to the end of his lifelong band, lifelong friendships and public damage to his professional credibility because he was so focused on the new album" is insulting to the intelligence and maturity of his fans. His one and only tweet about the accusatoins was correct, his fans do deserve better than this. But I don't know that we will ever hear it.

Nick will accept this. Nick is exactly the sort of person Ed hopes is his fan. There are plenty of fan girls that would eat it up too.

But you're absolutely right though ... for someone so focused on love and the christian spirit and all these good things he sings about, to say that he hasn't given any thought at all to his life long friends saying they want nothing to do with him is just BS. If he truely believed there was a misunderstanding and he was in the right then man I know if I were him I'd be doing absolutely everything in my power for the people I hurt to understand the situation and to not lose them. Saying you haven't given it any thought is just... wow.
It also goes directly against the "we're cool" line he gave regarding his relationship with the rest of the band.
Of course when fronted with that situation and question on TV in a quick segment no one could expect him to launch into a massive description of the problems, but he could have said any number of other things other than that.

Argh, the whole thing just reeks. Can't believe I held this guy in such high regard for so long.

[OutToDry]

I'd go futher and say he not only cheated his friends and bandmates, he's cheated us consumers as well.

[Deku]

Nobody, I mean nobody is that detatched from the world and their personal feelings and relatinships. Especially not someone this focused on commercialism and fans and his career. These accusations go straight to the heart of his career. The end of Live directly hits his pocketbook. And he didn't focus on it? And if he is that detatched, and he did not spend any time thinking about his band, his fans and his friends, then he has some serious sociopathic issues.

It's as if his head is on another planet or something. I don't think there has been much humanity in the way he has treated this whole affair. Whether CT was accurate or not in what he said, you could tell that he cared. I wouldn't be too surprised to find Ed hasn't focused on it, as it seems he's more or less got what he wanted now.

[OutToDry]

It's as if his head is on another planet or something. I don't think there has been much humanity in the way he has treated this whole affair. Whether CT was accurate or not in what he said, you could tell that he cared. I wouldn't be too surprised to find Ed hasn't focused on it, as it seems he's more or less got what he wanted now.

I'll give a leap and say it was part of his MO from the very beginning.

[SJN1279]

Ed was out promoting his new CD. Why should he harp on the break-up during a press tour?

TGF and Ed both lost some fans over the email. It was downright stupid and childish thing to publish it in a public forum. Chad Taylor hasn't always shown the best judgement when it comes to publishing blogs though.

[Sonic Tonic]

I think that interview is very enlightening actually. I hate to say it, but Ed's response is pretty much the response I would expect from a guilty person who did what he was accused of. I have been in enough arguments with people to know that when someone is wrong and they have an ego, they think that they were not wrong, there was just a "misunderstanding" and it is not in their character to do the things they were accused of. Few people can look in the mirror when they are fighting with someone else and see themselves for what they are. Most people have an ego that tells them thhat although the facts they are confronted with may be true, there is a "misunderstanding" because they aren't a bad person. He certainly didn't deny the facts. If someone didn't sign publishing contracts to exclude his 3 band-mates or ask for a lead singer signing bonus, the reasonable response would be - that didn't happen, I never signed any contracts or ask for a bonus.

And for him to say that he paid no attention to the serious allegations made against him and the responses, or focus at all on the destruction of the band he has been in for 20 years and that sold millions of albums and friendships with his best friends who now hate him and won't talk to him, is ridiculous. Absolutely ridifculous. I'm calling bullshit here. And it is insulting to me that he thinks he can even say that as if someone will accept it. Nobody, I mean nobody is that detatched from the world and their personal feelings and relatinships. Especially not someone this focused on commercialism and fans and his career. These accusations go straight to the heart of his career. The end of Live directly hits his pocketbook. And he didn't focus on it? And if he is that detatched, and he did not spend any time thinking about his band, his fans and his friends, then he has some serious sociopathic issues. But I don't believe that for a minute. The fact that he thinks his fans will just accept this - "Oh, Ed hasn't given any thought to the end of his lifelong band, lifelong friendships and public damage to his professional credibility because he was so focused on the new album" is insulting to the intelligence and maturity of his fans. His one and only tweet about the accusatoins was correct, his fans do deserve better than this. But I don't know that we will ever hear it.

Well, you elaborated more thoroughly on the point I was making lol. Agreed 100%

[Sonic Tonic]

Ed was out promoting his new CD. Why should he harp on the break-up during a press tour?

Perhaps because he hasn't released his statement/side of story? He knows that's the biggest thing regarding Live right now. Hell, I'd bet every interview he's done and will do will be mostly to find out what the fuck happened with Live. Those interviewers don't really give a shit about his album, they just wanna get the dirt out (from both sides). So get used to it. Until everything comes out in the open, they will all be asked these questions.

[SJN1279]

Perhaps because he hasn't released his statement/side of story? He knows that's the biggest thing regarding Live right now. Hell, I'd bet every interview he's done and will do will be mostly to find out what the fuck happened with Live. Those interviewers don't really give a shit about his album, they just wanna get the dirt out (from both sides). So get used to it. Until everything comes out in the open, they will all be asked these questions.

Most bands do not go into great detail concerning the cause of their break-up, because it is their own personal business. Just because Chad Taylor has diarrhea of the mouth, doesn't mean Ed should join the fray. All that would result is a bitter online argument that wouldn't have a winner.

Ed is doing the right thing by focusing on his music, and not the petty bullshit caused by TGF.

[Sonic Tonic]

Most bands do not go into great detail concerning the cause of their break-up, because it is their own personal business. Just because Chad Taylor has diarrhea of the mouth, doesn't mean Ed should join the fray. All that would result is a bitter online argument that wouldn't have a winner.

Ed is doing the right thing by focusing on his music, and not the petty bullshit caused by TGF.

Every band that I listened to that broke up, released statements on why they broke up or THE LEAST acknowledged it.

Well you're taking jabs so here's one: At least Chad's verbal diarrhea is about the break up on some blogs/forums. Ed's shit spews out onto lyric sheets and cds.

This post has been edited by Sonic Tonic: May 4 2010, 11:45 am

[SJN1279]

Every band that I listened to that broke up, released statements on why they broke up or THE LEAST acknowledged it.

Ed has ackowledged that Live isn't working together anymore, but he is leaving the door open for a reunion.

Chad Taylor says that its a permanent break-up, that he never wants to see Ed again, etc. and is going to look like a total asshole when he crawls back to Ed's side in a few years.

Never say never, and always leave the door open.

[Aitkens]

Its good to know that Ed is so focused on his music and ignoring the very guys and band that afford him these wonderful opportunities. I also find it complete bullshit when he talked about needing a change after 20 years. U2 is doing just fine and they've been together for 30+ years.

I can't wait for Ed, his high and mighty attitude, and his crap music to fade away.

[SJN1279]

Its good to know that Ed is so focused on his music and ignoring the very guys and band that afford him these wonderful opportunities. I also find it complete bullshit when he talked about needing a change after 20 years. U2 is doing just fine and they've been together for 30+ years.

I can't wait for Ed, his high and mighty attitude, and his crap music to fade away.

Most bands don't make 20 years with the original line-up. The guys from Live needed a well-deserved break from each other.

Ed has the ability to tour around as a solo act for many years to come. TGF will have a tougher time having any type of real longevity.