"Legendary" Jerry Harrison producing The Gracious Few!, time to get excited... Options

[iateyourcookie]

I would've been much more fired up if they went with an unknown / obscure diamond in the rough type of lead singer as opposed to someone from an established band with a 'sound' I'm already familiar with (and don't like).

As far as I'm concerned, that's exactly what they did. Never heard of Candlebox til the rumours started around here.

[Pokey]

Same here, never knew candlebox existed until all this but nothing I've seen of them since hearing of them has impressed me... But that might change with the gracious few who knows. The problem I have is the singer is a make or break for me, the music might rock the fuck out but if Kevin martins voice doesn't do it for ne then I doubt I could follow the band

[Senghe]

Same here, never knew candlebox existed until all this but nothing I've seen of them since hearing of them has impressed me... But that might change with the gracious few who knows. The problem I have is the singer is a make or break for me, the music might rock the fuck out but if Kevin martins voice doesn't do it for ne then I doubt I could follow the band

On paper, it's not looking hopeful. Most 'supergroups' formed from other bands much more commercially successful than Live and Candlebox put together don't exactly have a track record of producing anything anywhere near as good as the constituent bands did. I have no great love for Candlebox and they remind me of a far less talented, less interesting version of Matchbox Twenty (and although I find them endearing, they're hardly the most exciting band on the planet). Kevin Martin's vocals are run of the mill and you could easily confuse/swap him for quite a few mediocre lead singers who've had mediocre success in the last 20 years.

They might surprise me, but I have a gut feeling they won't if they've not managed to pull a demo out of their arses as a sample of the great things to come and stuck it up on MySpace. It might have been not everybody's cup of tea, but at least Ed had the balls to inflict Dirty Water Lotus Flower on us.

[LiveFan92]

They might surprise me, but I have a gut feeling they won't if they've not managed to pull a demo out of their arses as a sample of the great things to come and stuck it up on MySpace. It might have been not everybody's cup of tea, but at least Ed had the balls to inflict Dirty Water Lotus Flower on us.

I have this feeling that they're going to go with "something safe" for their first album, while Ed is going to do whatever crazy stuff is running through his head while he happens to be in the studio. I'm curious to see which turns out better. Personally, I'd love for both albums to be awesome. I don't get the fans who are all like, "Screw Ed!" or "The band isn't called Live so they'll suck!" or whatever.

[thefunkyredcaboose]

Just out of curiosity, how old and where from are you guys that had never heard of Candlebox? They broke up for awhile, but their first album was extremely successful in the US around the same time Throwing Copper was. The average 90's rock fan in America is going to remember them.

As far as the "supergroups" not working out comment, that is extremely asinine. Some "supergroups" that didn't work out:

Velvet Revolver
Audioslave
Temple of the Dog
Cream
A Perfect Circle
Traveling Wilburys
Journey
The Postal Service

Not saying I love all these bands, but they are all "supergroups" and all had a very nice round of success.

[Sonic Tonic]

Just out of curiosity, how old and where from are you guys that had never heard of Candlebox? They broke up for awhile, but their first album was extremely successful in the US around the same time Throwing Copper was. The average 90's rock fan in America is going to remember them.

As far as the "supergroups" not working out comment, that is extremely asinine. Some "supergroups" that didn't work out:

Velvet Revolver
Audioslave
Temple of the Dog
Cream
A Perfect Circle
Traveling Wilburys
Journey
The Postal Service

Not saying I love all these bands, but they are all "supergroups" and all had a very nice round of success.

I don't know, but A Perfect circle released 2 awesome albums. Sure they are done, but those albums were great. (or did you mean "some supergroups that DID work out"?

[Distance to Me]

I don't know, but A Perfect circle released 2 awesome albums. Sure they are done, but those albums were great. (or did you mean "some supergroups that DID work out"?

I think he means they didn't last long. And most of those bands were alright. Journey was awful. And I don't like Velvet Revolver, Audioslave, or even Temple of the Dog and Cream much, but they were solid, I suppose.

Never listened to the Traveling Wilsburys. Are they any good?

This post has been edited by Distance to Me: Sep 26 2009, 7:14 pm

[Lebanon Corvalis]

I think he means they didn't last long. And most of those bands were alright. Journey was awful. And I don't like Velvet Revolver, Audioslave, or even Temple of the Dog and Cream much, but they were solid, I suppose.

Never listened to the Traveling Wilsburys. Are they any good?

The Super group of George Harrison, Bob Dylan, Jeff Lynne and Roy Orbison how can you go wrong? the 1st cd is very good the 2nd one was good but not as good as the 1st.

One of The Wilbury's said (can't remember which one) that after Roy Orbison Died it wasn't the same. They did record the 2nd after he died and that was that. They are both worth checking out, especially If you like any of the people mentioned above. There biggest hit was "Handle me w/ care"


LC

[iateyourcookie]

Just out of curiosity, how old and where from are you guys that had never heard of Candlebox? They broke up for awhile, but their first album was extremely successful in the US around the same time Throwing Copper was. The average 90's rock fan in America is going to remember them.

As far as the "supergroups" not working out comment, that is extremely asinine. Some "supergroups" that didn't work out:

Velvet Revolver
Audioslave
Temple of the Dog
Cream
A Perfect Circle
Traveling Wilburys
Journey
The Postal Service

Not saying I love all these bands, but they are all "supergroups" and all had a very nice round of success.

Hertz and I were both born in '85, both from Melbourne. Never met the guy, though. Never met anyone who knew who Candlebox were, either.

TGF remind me so far, in a lot of ways, of Them Crooked Vultures. I've seen posters around town advertising their tour, but again, nobody seems to know who they are either despite the success that Grohl has had here with FF and QOTSA.

[thefunkyredcaboose]

My comment about those supergroups not working out was sarcasm in response to an earlier post about supergroups always being awful. Sorry for the confusion, sometimes sarcasm doesn't come through on the nets.

iateyourcookie, being in Australia I can understand never having heard of Candlebox. An international success they were not, but they did very well in the States. Their music is based a lot less on vocals than it is on awesome electric guitar work. I think Kevin was chosen by the guys of Live because his voice is aggressive and also has some classic rock swagger, not because its a "great" voice.

[Senghe]

Just out of curiosity, how old and where from are you guys that had never heard of Candlebox? They broke up for awhile, but their first album was extremely successful in the US around the same time Throwing Copper was. The average 90's rock fan in America is going to remember them.

As far as the "supergroups" not working out comment, that is extremely asinine. Some "supergroups" that didn't work out:

Velvet Revolver
Audioslave
Temple of the Dog
Cream
A Perfect Circle
Traveling Wilburys
Journey
The Postal Service

Not saying I love all these bands, but they are all "supergroups" and all had a very nice round of success.

Born in the 70s and from the UK. I hate to tell you this but Candlebox never made it particularly big even in the USA, let alone much heard of anywhere else. Can you actually claim, (with the exception of Cream) that any of those supergroups made music as good as their original constituent bands or have been anywhere near as popular, long lived or successful? Yes, they may have had plenty exposure and sold quite a few CDs thank you very much, but rivalling their parent bands in the cases of where the parent bands were well established and popular artists? The best Audioslave could come up with was a debut that ripped off Whole Lotta Love by Led Zeppelin rather than anything of the calibre of Killing In The Name Of or, well frankly most of Superunknown. Temple Of The Dog are hardly what you'd call well known (like Mad Season). A Perfect Circle were sonically only ever Tool lite with a revolving scenery of guest artists filling the seats. Velvet Revolver really are no better and Scott Weiland has flown the coop. Journey were made up of the arse end of Santana and [sarcasm] the internationally reknowned hit makers [/sarcasm] Frumious Bandersnatch. You cannot tell me that, pleasing and whimsical as Handle With Care might have been, The Travelling Wilburys collective output was anywhere near as magnificent as any of their constituent artists. And The Postal Service (not that Death Cab For Cutie are my thing either), if you like that kind of fae twittering electro banality haven't done an album for 6 years or a single for 4. Reached the heady heights of #114 in the billboard charts no less. I think that last one depends on your definition of what a nice round of success is. Mind you, if The Gracious Few sell 900,000 albums on their debut, I'll eat the Zeitgeist they managed to channel into.

This post has been edited by Senghe: Sep 27 2009, 7:14 am

[SJN1279]

Born in the 70s and from the UK. I hate to tell you this but Candlebox never made it particularly big even in the USA, let alone much heard of anywhere else. Can you actually claim, (with the exception of Cream) that any of those supergroups made music as good as their original constituent bands or have been anywhere near as popular, long lived or successful? Yes, they may have had plenty exposure and sold quite a few CDs thank you very much, but rivalling their parent bands in the cases of where the parent bands were well established and popular artists? The best Audioslave could come up with was a debut that ripped off Whole Lotta Love by Led Zeppelin rather than anything of the calibre of Killing In The Name Of or, well frankly most of Superunknown. Temple Of The Dog are hardly what you'd call well known (like Mad Season). A Perfect Circle were sonically only ever Tool lite with a revolving scenery of guest artists filling the seats. Velvet Revolver really are no better and Scott Weiland has flown the coop. Journey were made up of the arse end of Santana and [sarcasm] the internationally reknowned hit makers [/sarcasm] Frumious Bandersnatch. You cannot tell me that, pleasing and whimsical as Handle With Care might have been, The Travelling Wilburys collective output was anywhere near as magnificent as any of their constituent artists. And The Postal Service (not that Death Cab For Cutie are my thing either), if you like that kind of fae twittering electro banality haven't done an album for 6 years or a single for 4. Reached the heady heights of #114 in the billboard charts no less. I think that last one depends on your definition of what a nice round of success is. Mind you, if The Gracious Few sell 900,000 albums on their debut, I'll eat the Zeitgeist they managed to channel into.

900,000 CD's sold is an insanely high estimate. I can't see them coming close to that figure in today's market.

[thefunkyredcaboose]

Haha, your post is much more clever than mine. Personally, no I don't like their music more in most cases but I do think some of those bands produced some really cool material. That's the point right? I don't really look to TGF to be AMAZING or as good as TC, SS or Candlebox, but I do think it will be a fun rock 'n roll record. Like many others, I'm just glad the guys from Live seem to be happy and are involved in the creative process. Back to your post...

I picked the bands I did, not because I like all their music. but because they achieved popularity. To sell albums SOMEONE has to like your music. The Postal Service not so much, but I hate their music anyway so I can take them off that list for sure.

I have hope for this project because their have been some really cool collaborations in recent years. RHCP's guitarist with The Mars Volta, Jack White's numerous project bands, Dave Groehl and Queens of the Stone Age, etc. etc.

As for Candlebox, their debut album went platinum 4 times over. That's very solid and enough to make an assumption that most music fans in the US at that time would have heard their single on the radio. I never said they were HUUUUGE and BLOWING UP THE SCENE, but they aren't a band that no one has ever heard of (in the US).

[Sonic Tonic]

So we are back to discussing popularity and sales again. I'm just gonna wait and let the music speak for itself. Don't care at all who is who and who sold how much. Though it is fun reading all these speculations and feeling the anticipation.

[Sonic Tonic]

A Perfect Circle were sonically only ever Tool lite with a revolving scenery of guest artists filling the seats.

Meh, I don't think you know what you're talking about. Besides obviously Maynard's voice/singing (even that is different) musically these two bands are nothing alike. Well maybe a little.. they make music. Two complete different styles in a rock/metal/prog genre. Total different ideas in compositions, presentations, and styles. Tool lite would be something like Rishloo and such.
But will agree this was a revolving door and not such a perfect circle as far as members are considered.

This post has been edited by Sonic Tonic: Sep 27 2009, 3:43 pm