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post May 12 2009, 7:45 am
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"Nobody should care what religion he is."

if you're a Christian,... you want others to be, too. not for your sake, but for theirs.

"Do you think Ed cares what religion you are?"

if he has truly given his heart and soul to Jesus... then yes, i do.

"yet you turn around and try to push your religion on us"

see, that's the problem... to a non-believer... when anyone that is a Christian even brings up the fact that Jesus is their Lord and Saviour... they think they are trying to "push" their beliefs on someone. i'm not doing that. i'm telling you what i believe and why i believe it. and, for me to want the same for anyone else is my decision. if you think me being happy for ed, that he found Christ, is pushing my beliefs on you... then you're the one with the problem.

"I respect all religions, and believe religion is a great thing. Just not for me, at least not at this point in my life."

see, you don't get it... Christianity isn't "something to get you through the day"... becoming a Christian isn't going to make your life easier... it's actually going to make it harder. but, i know that It will keep my soul for eternity with the Lord.






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post May 12 2009, 9:24 am
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QUOTE(gotigrz @ May 12 2009, 8:45 am) *

"Nobody should care what religion he is."

That's really not the point.
if you're a Christian,... you want others to be, too. not for your sake, but for theirs.

This is the reason why I don't believe in organized religion. Do you think YOUR religion is better
than the others?


see, you don't get it... Christianity isn't "something to get you through the day"... becoming a Christian isn't going to make your life easier... it's actually going to make it harder. but, i know that It will keep my soul for eternity with the Lord.

I like the following...

Believe nothing merely because you have been told it.
Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher.
But whatever, after due examination and analysis,
you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings -
that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.


Buddha

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post May 12 2009, 11:12 am
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you ask "do i believe that my religion is better than others?"

well, no. i don't think it's "better". actually, i don't even compare my religion to others. i don't believe my religion is "better".. i believe it is true. Jesus, said... "no one comes to the Father but through Me." you can't believe that and have tolerance for other religions at the same time.


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post May 12 2009, 3:35 pm
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QUOTE(gotigrz @ May 12 2009, 10:45 pm) *

becoming a Christian isn't going to make your life easier... it's actually going to make it harder.


It's not supposed to. He looks down on martyrdom, y'know smile.gif


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I like the following...

Believe nothing merely because you have been told it.
Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher.
But whatever, after due examination and analysis,
you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings -
that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.


Buddha

Peace smile.gif


Beautiful. Peace indeed. More people should read this stuff.


QUOTE(gotigrz @ May 13 2009, 2:12 am) *

Jesus, said... "no one comes to the Father but through Me." you can't believe that and have tolerance for other religions at the same time.


*feeds the troll*

Why not?


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post May 12 2009, 3:42 pm
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QUOTE(crazy1 @ May 12 2009, 3:24 pm) *

I like the following...

Believe nothing merely because you have been told it.
Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher.
But whatever, after due examination and analysis,
you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings -
that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.


Buddha

Peace smile.gif


Buddha is the fucking man!


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post May 12 2009, 4:07 pm
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"Jesus, said... "no one comes to the Father but through Me." you can't believe that and have tolerance for other religions at the same time."





"Why not?"


because, Jesus said that He is THE TRUTH, THE WAY, AND THE LIFE... in other words, believing in Jesus is believing He is the only way(religion that will lead) to Heaven. and if you believe that, then you believe anything else or any other way or religion is false.

and, when i say "can't have tolerance for other religions" i'm not saying that i can't tolerate the people that believe in other religions. i'm sure there are many "good people" affiliated with all types of religions. but, being a Christian, i don't believe being "good people" will get you into Heaven. being a Christian isn't about being "good"... it's about knowing you're not and will never be "good enough" to get into Heaven by your own doings. In comes Jesus.

i know there are plenty of people that reject Christ for, what they would consider, "good reasons". but, i think a lot of people reject Him cause they don't understand Him.

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Dude, Jesus called...he won't be coming for dinner tonight


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QUOTE(gotigrz @ May 12 2009, 4:07 pm) *

being a Christian isn't about being "good"...


heynow.gif Makes sense to me

That would suck to live a life thinking you weren't good enough. I know I am good enough and challenge the world to show me different.

We got some wacky people in this world laugh.gif


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QUOTE(gotigrz @ May 12 2009, 10:07 pm) *
i'm sure there are many "good people" affiliated with all types of religions. but, being a Christian, i don't believe being "good people" will get you into Heaven. being a Christian isn't about being "good"... it's about knowing you're not and will never be "good enough" to get into Heaven by your own doings. In comes Jesus.


So... we don't get into heaven unless we swallow JC's sticky load?


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QUOTE(Badman @ May 13 2009, 9:14 am) *


We got some wacky people in this world laugh.gif

WE SURE DO! I dont care what he believes, never bothered me b4 nor does it now!! smile.gif


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QUOTE(Badman @ May 13 2009, 2:14 am) *

That would suck to live a life thinking you weren't good enough. I know I am good enough and challenge the world to show me different.

Damn, mate, this is very fucking well stated.

If only I could approve of your reputation again...


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QUOTE(+Ed+ @ May 13 2009, 2:16 am) *

Damn, mate, this is very fucking well stated.

If only I could approve of your reputation again...


You could always go to page 50 and raise some reps over there for people who never return to the board and come back to me.


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QUOTE(Badman @ May 13 2009, 11:20 am) *

You could always go to page 50 and raise some reps over there for people who never return to the board and come back to me.

Oh, nice way out. Well done.


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post May 13 2009, 7:48 am
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badman said... "Who said we loved Ed?"


ShadowStormEK (3 weeks ago) "Oh I love him!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYxIAzDxC4Q&feature=related


"That would suck to live a life thinking you weren't good enough. I know I am good enough and challenge the world to show me different."

you're good enough???.... good enough for what??? i'm sure you're a good person. i'm a good person. as for showing you different.... well, i don't know you, but i'd be willing to bet that you've lied.... or judged... or stole (maybe/maybe not).... lust.... betrayed.... hated.... etc.... those are just a few of many things that we all do or have done that doesn't make us bad people, but keeps us from being perfect or acceptable to God. in comes Jesus. Jesus is the bridge that we all need to have a eternal relationship with God. i'm not pushing this on you... this is just what i believe. if you don't... then that's your decision. no need in cussing me.

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QUOTE(gotigrz @ May 13 2009, 8:48 am) *

badman said... "Who said we loved Ed?"
ShadowStormEK (3 weeks ago) "Oh I love him!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYxIAzDxC4Q&feature=related
"That would suck to live a life thinking you weren't good enough. I know I am good enough and challenge the world to show me different."

you're good enough???.... good enough for what??? i'm sure you're a good person. i'm a good person. as for showing you different.... well, i don't know you, but i'd be willing to bet that you've lied.... or judged... or stole (maybe/maybe not).... lust.... betrayed.... hated.... etc.... those are just a few of many things that we all do or have done that doesn't make us bad people, but keeps us from being perfect or acceptable to God. in comes Jesus. Jesus is the bridge that we all need to have a eternal relationship with God. i'm not pushing this on you... this is just what i believe. if you don't... then that's your decision. no need in cussing me.


I hope you don't speak for the majority of Christians. You seem very close minded. You need to accept that not everyone has the same views or religious beliefs as you. YOUR WAY is not the right or only way. In accepting this, I do believe you will be a better person. Oh.....don't drink the Kool Aid!!! tongue.gif


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