New song?, Take me up to Zion Options

[LiveRoCkS77]

Whilst I agree that he does seem to be singing it from deep down (he seems really into it in the video), the chorus is actually the only bit I question. It's because, at face value, it seems lyrically weak. "They'll run, run away, far away, you'll see, they'll run" etc, it's like little ditti lines and I wonder if he'll keep going on with them. But this is where the studio will play such a big part in the making of this song in my opinion. If the production is BoP / SFBM low-key style, it'll be another little catchy tune (albeit slightly deeper than recent stuff), but if they really work with it with (like they put more thought into Purifier), it could have that Rattlesnake / Gas Hed wide open aura type feel to it... and then the chorus and the song as a whole might work on that more epic type scale.

Slightly ramblish explanation, I hope you get my point.

I don't see them as weak at all. But you miss my point entirely here. He's sings this part with conviction and emotion. I don't want it to be produced at all. This recording is fucking perfect, just like photograph was. It's simple but it says something. Then he follows it up with a powerful chorus where he sings "fucking RUUUUUUUUUUUUN"

Producing this song will ruin it entirely. "see them run far away.....(pause)....(emotional) from me. PERFECT. This is the best chorus I've heard in a LIVE tune since I can't remember. I love this and can't stop listening to it. I find the verses need some tweaking but this chorus, with a little more of Live's anthemic style, will be amazing. I get the chills listening to it with my eyes closed. It's raw and it strikes me hard. Especially when he belts out the last chorus.

I am and have not been a fan of any of his recent work at all, but in this raw form, I love this fucking song more than anything I've heard from anyone in a while. That means a lot coming from me because I've been one of their biggest critics. Listen to the way he sings the words leading into each chorus. The "me" in the first one, pure emotion, it sounds sweet almost. The second, can't make it out but it has the same effect and it flows beautifully into the chorus. Then listen to the way he sings "god" leading into the next one, fucking spectacular and utterly gorgeous. I also love the pause when he separates "far awayyyyy.......from meeee."

Wow, the more I listen to this, the more I love it. It reminds me so much of photograph and I love that tune. It spurs emotion in me and makes me think. It's the old Ed leading you into your own interpretation through his own.

Either way, y'all can have your own opinions, I'm simply floored by this tune. I didn't think Ed had anything close to this left in him. I absolutely and utterly adore this song. Thanks Ed.

[LiveRoCkS77]

I just hope it doesn't get ruined by overproduction, if ever. It could be that kind of song wherein 'less is more', so to speak.

Couldn't agree more. Amen.

I close my eyes and listen to this and it totally takes me somewhere else. THIS is EXACTLY what I wanted to hear come from this man again.

[Bremang]

cmon, this song blows

[Wambangalang]

cmon, this song blows

in that case how could a guy NOT like this song

[Merica]

I don't see them as weak at all. But you miss my point entirely here. He's sings this part with conviction and emotion. I don't want it to be produced at all. This recording is fucking perfect, just like photograph was. It's simple but it says something. Then he follows it up with a powerful chorus where he sings "fucking RUUUUUUUUUUUUN"

Producing this song will ruin it entirely. "see them run far away.....(pause)....(emotional) from me. PERFECT. This is the best chorus I've heard in a LIVE tune since I can't remember. I love this and can't stop listening to it. I find the verses need some tweaking but this chorus, with a little more of Live's anthemic style, will be amazing. I get the chills listening to it with my eyes closed. It's raw and it strikes me hard. Especially when he belts out the last chorus.

I am and have not been a fan of any of his recent work at all, but in this raw form, I love this fucking song more than anything I've heard from anyone in a while. That means a lot coming from me because I've been one of their biggest critics. Listen to the way he sings the words leading into each chorus. The "me" in the first one, pure emotion, it sounds sweet almost. The second, can't make it out but it has the same effect and it flows beautifully into the chorus. Then listen to the way he sings "god" leading into the next one, fucking spectacular and utterly gorgeous. I also love the pause when he separates "far awayyyyy.......from meeee."

Didn't mean to miss your point there. I know he sings with great emotion and conviction and that is great, which is what I mean by the production being so important. By production I don't mean I want them to go in there and gloss it over to perfection, just that when the four get together to make the full band version, they have to have a real good think and work real hard to keep this tune from being flat and forgettable like some recent tunes. They have the oppertunity to keep ther raw emotion, but add that anthemic, epic style like you say.

[SJN1279]

There is no way that the full band version doesn't rock hard, especially in concert.

[Pokey]

Yeah my only hope is it doesn't get glossed over and over produced, giving it the sound of a song like Run Away would be a travisty

[Distance to Me]

This is completely random, but on the Youtube recording you can hear people talking in the background in some parts of the song, and I actually think it would sound pretty cool if they had some voices in the background during the choruses or bridges on the final recording.

Awesome song by the way.

[LiveRoCkS77]

Didn't mean to miss your point there. I know he sings with great emotion and conviction and that is great, which is what I mean by the production being so important. By production I don't mean I want them to go in there and gloss it over to perfection, just that when the four get together to make the full band version, they have to have a real good think and work real hard to keep this tune from being flat and forgettable like some recent tunes. They have the oppertunity to keep ther raw emotion, but add that anthemic, epic style like you say.

Dude, you remember how they messed up life marches on? Production has been a real problem with these guys lately.

I'm just saying that this is the first song in a long time with all those ingredients I mentioned.

Anybody who thinks this song blows, must be speaking from experience.

[zmanpga]

I deleted this song when I got a Pm from FOL about their policy which I totaly respect I just didnt know it..anyhow..when I did get that PM, I also removed the vid from Youtube out of respect..sorry if i pissed anyone off...

[LiveRoCkS77]

I deleted this song when I got a Pm from FOL about their policy which I totaly respect I just didnt know it..anyhow..when I did get that PM, I also removed the vid from Youtube out of respect..sorry if i pissed anyone off...

Yeah, it's a gray area dude. I wouldn't worry about it too much, you're a good guy. I'm glad to have heard the song but can understand how these things get out of control.

[Badman]

Dude, you remember how they messed up life marches on? Production has been a real problem with these guys lately.

I'm just saying that this is the first song in a long time with all those ingredients I mentioned.

Anybody who thinks this song blows, must be speaking from experience.

Can we get an early version of Life marches on out here? I always thought that song blew but I think it would be good to compare.

[Hoodstock]

Dude, you remember how they messed up life marches on? Production has been a real problem with these guys lately.

I'm just saying that this is the first song in a long time with all those ingredients I mentioned.

Anybody who thinks this song blows, must be speaking from experience.

Ex - you're right on with that. The messed it up.

This post has been edited by Hoodstock: Apr 27 2009, 8:07 pm

[Badman]

I got confirmation from a man at the Bayshore show that Take me up to Zion was played.

[seriakiLLa]

I hope we can hear it too.