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[LiveRoCkS77]

If we really love the band we should support them if they decide to call it quits. I think we can all kind of agree that the last couple of albums have been fairly disappointing and did not live up to most of our expectations (except Nick).

Do we really want them to continue writing just to fall flat on their faces? They should save themselves that embarassment if they're only going to write without passion.

Completely agree. My 11 year old daughter can write deeper meaning than what I've seen on the last 3 cd's combined.

[sellingthdrama]

If we really love the band we should support them if they decide to call it quits. I think we can all kind of agree that the last couple of albums have been fairly disappointing and did not live up to most of our expectations (except Nick).

Do we really want them to continue writing just to fall flat on their faces? They should save themselves that embarassment if they're only going to write without passion.

They'd have my support if they split. Nothing lasts forever, and if it's time to go, it's time to go. When it gets really ugly (we can all debate on when and if that has happened already) is when the effort is forced in the quality suffers. Who wants that? If you're in the camp of "things have already gotten ugly", would you have preferred they split prior to that?

[SJN1279]

If we really love the band we should support them if they decide to call it quits. I think we can all kind of agree that the last couple of albums have been fairly disappointing and did not live up to most of our expectations (except Nick).

Do we really want them to continue writing just to fall flat on their faces? They should save themselves that embarassment if they're only going to write without passion.

For my money, Live put on the best concert in the business. They also seem to be selling out nearly every solo show they perform. If they call it quits, I'd be really bummed to say the least.

[crazy1]

For my money, Live put on the best concert in the business. They also seem to be selling out nearly every solo show they perform. If they call it quits, I'd be really bummed to say the least.

I support Live in anything they do but I agree that nothing lasts forever. Can't say I wouldn't be upset if they called it quits though. Atleast I have the memories...but memories fade...

[Badman]

Completely agree. My 11 year old daughter can write deeper meaning than what I've seen on the last 3 cd's combined.

V and SFBM may have failed but I don't feel the same about BOP. Heaven is really deep and can be taken so many different ways. I view it from a secular view as Ed saying "I'll believe heaven when I see it" but my Girlfriend feels christian vibes. BOP was a step in the right direction... even if it was a small step.

[SinfulEyes]

V and SFBM may have failed but I don't feel the same about BOP. Heaven is really deep and can be taken so many different ways. I view it from a secular view as Ed saying "I'll believe heaven when I see it" but my Girlfriend feels christian vibes. BOP was a step in the right direction... even if it was a small step.

I agree with you there. BOP did have it's moments. It was certainly head and shoulders over V.

In fact, if SFBM flowed better if might have had a chance. I think most general listeners judge an album from the first couple of songs. The River is a pure atrocity. Nights of Nights definately has a mysteriousness to it and would have been a much better choice to start the album off with.

[lynn32701]

ugh, what happened to our generation

Agree. Ah, Eddie's pre-wax days!

I support Live in anything they do but I agree that nothing lasts forever. Can't say I wouldn't be upset if they called it quits though. Atleast I have the memories...but memories fade...

Agree again. We all eventually retire from our jobs. It's just their job effects our lives SO much. Yeah, I would be totally bummed if I couldn't see them live in concert or wait in anticipation to hear new music. But I do have pictures and fond memories of all the shows I've attended. And unless they make CD players obsolete, I can always pop in a CD for old time's sake.

But even if the band did move on, they're still young guys. I'm sure they'd branch out into other things ... Taylor is already doing that with his production company. I would support them in their other life ventures too.

[LiveRoCkS77]

V and SFBM may have failed but I don't feel the same about BOP. Heaven is really deep and can be taken so many different ways. I view it from a secular view as Ed saying "I'll believe heaven when I see it" but my Girlfriend feels christian vibes. BOP was a step in the right direction... even if it was a small step.

Well, I get my own meaning from Heaven, having two girls. But my 11 year old writes just as well as any of it. It's basic poetry thrown to music really. I find that everything after TDTH has been a trillion steps backward.

Finding myself agreeing with McPheezy, Pokey and Mets here in saying that the music now is so simple, structured and uncreative that it's embarassing. I find myself reading the lyrics and being embarassed for them....it makes me want to laugh really. I just don't understand how a band that once had so much relevance lyrically and musically has turned into what they've turned in to. i mean, do any of them actually think that any of this music is anyhwere near good?

I dunno, i just find myself looking back and thinking "what the fu888 happened"? It's not about change or getting older or any of that bullshit. It's about playing meaningful and creative rock music that means something. Where has Pat's bass gone? Where are the solos that sing with the song jus a lil bit? I don't want another TC but I want to hear some riffs on the bass and electric that give me goosebumps. I want some soul and passion. The last 3 cd's have been a compilation of half assed nosense that amateur bands can play and grade school kids can write.

Jesus, I just listened to and watched this video I'm linking here and I was blown the fuck away at the thought that the same guys playing this song just made SFBM. I'm apalled really, I'm sorry...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T5EmcWsHTM

[Pokey]

I don't know where all the talk of throwing in the towel comes from, he said he didn't know which direction the band was going in now, that could mean anything.
The whole talk of them quitting I find kinda stupid, if their albums aren't selling as much as they used to, so what? They're still making more than for example's sake, a band that might play around here in Melbourne and get less than $300 a performance to devide between 4 people .. they may have been playing around pubs for 10+ years, but if they enjoy it they'll keep doing it. People seem to think that because Live HAS sold millions of albums they should still be doing that, they don't have to.

To me what is more important is the quality of the stuff they put out, which lately has been trite. But if they like it, cool, more power to them, I just won't listen to it. The only reason for them to throw it in should be if they lose the passion for it, nothing financial.

[Wambangalang]

Heaven is really deep and can be taken so many different ways. I view it from a secular view as Ed saying "I'll believe heaven when I see it" but my Girlfriend feels christian vibes. BOP was a step in the right direction... even if it was a small step.

your girlfriend is a nutter. heaven has nothing to do with christianity other than rejecting the idea that a book or doctrine can show you truth..it all goes back to krishnamurti's influence. But i agree that BOP kicked ass i love that album.

I don't know where all the talk of throwing in the towel comes from,

it comes from a few posts ago when I said maybe they're throwing in the towel.

[Wambangalang]

and liverocks you're a little fluffy sheep. i can go back to the old board and pull out quotes of you singing BOPs praises but im too lazy to. stop sucking up to other board members.

yes im in a bad mood

[SecretInsomnia]

Hey light up a cigarette...
and calm the f+ck down!!!!
sorry Ed's words...

hehehe, but really, I agree with Pokey, there is truly nothing, really NOTHING, that shoul bring the discussion of splitting them up, back again.What the hell haha.
a while ago, Jimmy changed ONE word or so on the SOY message board, and everything was like: oke, it's plain, this is the end... come on man, it's really stupid.

Oke, that doesn't mean that the discussion can't be brought up (there's only no reason to do it all of a sudden).
For me, I agree with almost everyone, that pre-V is really good, and post-TDTH is...well not always as good as before. But really. I would like Live to release another BoP for sure. And maybe a second one. It was not as good as their first 4 albums, but it was good enough for me, with 1 or 2 songs that make my favo Live top 10 of all time.

So that''s why I'm just waiting for album no.8. It will be different from SFBM, so we'll see!!

This post has been edited by SecretInsomnia: Sep 11 2007, 1:34 pm

[LiveRoCkS77]

and liverocks you're a little fluffy sheep. i can go back to the old board and pull out quotes of you singing BOPs praises but im too lazy to. stop sucking up to other board members.

yes im in a bad mood

Hehehehe, easy there cock mitten

I like Heaven and think that Like I Do is the most rocking song Live has ever done. At the same time, I think Like I do is a joke lyrically......get the difference yet ass clown?

Also, if you'd pull the giant coconut out of your ass, you'd realize that in hindsight, opinions change. Sometimes you like something because you force yourself to, which I think a lot of fans have done with the past 3 cd's. Although I do find BOP the most listenable of the 3, it still sucks major ass in a creative sense. It's poorly written and void of any valid guitar work, while at the same time being the bands best effort to make catchy pop rock tunes. But that isn't saying much.

When I first heard BOP I was relieved to be honest, for songs such as Like I Do, Lighthouse and Heaven were all better than anything off of V. Still think they are the best 3 tunes LIVE has made since TDTH. Doesn't mean I thought the album was great at any time.

Learn to tell the difference before you open your mouth. fool.

[Longlivelive]

I honestly don't want Live to break up, as I think that if nothing else, their live shows still rock. All artists have ups and downs in their work, there are times when the creativity is flowing and nothing seems to stop them from creating amazing work. Other times, it stops as if a dam were suddenly built.

I don't think the last 3 albums were that great, but I did enjoy BOP much more so than the other two. I think that in order for Live to really create something great, something more along the lines of TDTH, in terms of song quality and flow, I believe they need to create together, and allow time to take care of the work. I could care less if I had to wait 2 or 8 years for an album as long as they were creating something that screamed creativity and genious in it's song style, lyrics and flow. Maybe Live needs to take some time to work out some music, then again, maybe they don't. But I would rather have them create and try to match what they had given us in the past than to just give up.

You don't get anywhere by giving up, and I don't think that's what Live intends to do. Regardless of what fans and critics feel, they are creating something that they obviously, at one time or another, feel very strongly about, and who are we to tell them they should hang that up?

[Badman]

your girlfriend is a nutter. heaven has nothing to do with christianity other than rejecting the idea that a book or doctrine can show you truth..it all goes back to krishnamurti's influence.

Thank You! I tried to explain this! She had heard the song only one time before I had her hear it. Some guy at her church did a cover of it and gave live NO CREDIT. I guess he didn't want the congregation knowing that he was listening to the same group that made so many anti christian remarks.