Live and Epic Records Part Ways, Band removed from Website Options

[LiveattheOasis]

Well I think we all selfishly want them to put their heart and soul into each song they put out, but maybe they just can't anymore. I mean they decide not to go to college, they have to either sink or swim with MJ and TC. Now they don't have the need, unless something inside of them still needs to create, which I think they still have. It's now a question if they can combine that need with something other than that raw energy that carried them through their first 3-4 albums.

[Hoodstock]

I'm kind of confused by your comment. It would seem that you are saying that if a band gets a ton of radio play and they have a lot of fans it automatically means they are putting out good music. Have you listened to the radio recently? In order to have a lot of airplay you have to be a cookie cutter band that appeals to the masses and has a record label that will pay off the radio stations to get their music played. Radio isn't what it used to be. Just because a band is getting airplay it doesn't mean that they are putting out good music. In fact these days I think it is quite the opposite. All of the good bands are the ones that are being ignored by record labels and that you would rarely ever hear on the radio. Is that the way I want it to be or the way it should be? No. But sadly that is the way that it is.

I'd much rather have Live be "my band" than to have them making the kind of music that appeals to everyone, because that kind of music sucks, in my opinion . But I've had this arguement a million times. I'm shutting up now.

Sorry, I also don't buy the "If Live is on the radio it doesn't mean they are good" crap either. If Live is on the radio than their stuff must be good. In fact, if you are a fan, you know their stuff is always good. With the way music is today they would have to be amazing to get back into radio rotation on a regular basis. That argument is the most tired, played out argument that you can possibly come up with.

By the way Live is not "Your Band". They are anyone's band who wants to listen. If you would rather have them be small time for your personal enjoyment you should hire them. I hear they'll play a requested gig for about $23,000.

And to earlier comments, I'm glad everyone loves M.J. and the older stuff (I do too), but that doesn't mean new fans can't catch on or love the band just as much. You have to be kidding me to make that argument. Besides, who goes to Live concerts to talk about albums that are 15 years old? They go to listen to the band and whatever they are playing.

This post has been edited by Hoodstock: Feb 19 2007, 3:24 pm

[Heather]

If Live is on the radio than their stuff must be good.

Well I just don't know what to say to that. I can't believe you actually think that. It boggles the mind. You are obviously very confused about what it takes to get a song on the radio these days, it has little to do with whether or not the song is good.

I also don't consider Live to be my band, I was simply saying that I would rather have that be the case then have them making music to fit into any kind of mold in order to try to get their song on the radio and appeal to the masses. I'm tired of that kind of music and the reason that I have been a Live fan for so long is because they never fit into a mold.

Oh and the people that go to shows hoping to hear a song that is 15 years old are the the people that have been faithful fans to this band all along. There is certainly nothing wrong with that.

I don't think you get what I'm trying to say so I will stop arguing with you.

This post has been edited by Heather: Feb 19 2007, 3:53 pm

[tangled]

If Live is on the radio than their stuff must be good.

That is, by far, the most absurd thing i've read on here in ages.

Radio is atrocious and has been for a good five years, at least. It's nothing but garbage and 'image' and shit that appeals to the most median masses for five minutes.
It's packaged for stupid people with no taste, no attention span and no intelligence. Because that is their market and it's so SO easy to tell people what's good and what's hip because no one questions it.

[aLIVEinNORWAY]

Sorry, but that anti-mainstream and the band is a sell out argument doesn't work with me. Sure I want the band to sell millions. I want to hear them on the radio every time I turn it on and I would love to share my favorite band with millions. That would mean that they are putting out great stuff and possibly more stuff at a greater pace.

Don't be selfish. Live is not your band. Their music is for the people!

Of course Live is not my band the way you mean it. What I meant was whatever they do, Live will still be "my" fave band. Let them sell millions of cd' and top billboard again that would be great, and I would love that they got lots of new fans. What I meant was that if they sell 40 000 or 5 millions, I would still be there, it's not the amount of copys sold that make me a fan.
And I never mention that the band is a sell out.
Hope I make my self clearer this time, and I'm sorry if I offended someone out there.


This post has been edited by aLIVEinNORWAY: Feb 20 2007, 6:34 am

[Hoodstock]

Well I just don't know what to say to that. I can't believe you actually think that. It boggles the mind. You are obviously very confused about what it takes to get a song on the radio these days, it has little to do with whether or not the song is good.

I think we must be misunderstanding each other. From my perspective, Live puts out great music no matter what. What I am hearing you say is that Live would put out crap, and then it would be on the radio because of it. That won't happen because Live doesn't put out crap. Therefor your argument in invalid all together.

What I am saying is that Live always puts out great stuff and it must be amazing to get on the radio since they have been pulled out of rotation.

For anyone to imply that everything on the radio is garbage "boggles my mind". I know radio play does not mean that a song is good, but it also does not mean that a song is bad.

In fact, there is no actual defenition of what makes a good song. As I have consitently implied on this site, a good song is all in the opinion of the listener. You're so called crap is someone else's gold.

What you dislike is merely your opinion, not fact.

[burd]

There are SO many things I want to say.
But I'm too busy laughing and wetting my pants.

ooooooh boy.
Good times.

[jaybb]

In terms of them getting a record deal, they'll have no problem. They're still quite big internationally, which is an huge (and ever-growing) part of the record business.

[Heather]

In terms of them getting a record deal, they'll have no problem. They're still quite big internationally, which is an huge (and ever-growing) part of the record business.

That is so true. I didn't even think of that. I wonder if they would ever end up being one of those US bands whose main focus would be releasing music overseas?

This post has been edited by Heather: Feb 20 2007, 2:08 pm

[Hoodstock]

If you go to www.friendsoflive.com Live still has the listing for their Epic Records sister site.

[SJN1279]

If you go to www.friendsoflive.com Live still has the listing for their Epic Records sister site.

If you check out listentolive.com, you'll see it hasn't been updated since Live appeared on American Idol in late May. There hasn't been an official announcement about the end of their working relationship, but that's just a matter of time. Live is a free agent in the music industry and I hope it works to their advantage.

[Badman]

Dropped huh... Well, change needed to be done. Their last album didn't fare well but I don't think Live cared. Live is playing what they want instead of the "cookie cutter" music the radio plays. No, I dont think they will get a new Label (At least not soon) or do I think they will ever be on mainstream radio again.

I say it is a good thing. Like someone else said I think the creativity and angst that got them through early on is gone. If they do get a new label, they will have to impress them. You know what that means... They would have to play "cookie cutter" to get the sales back. I don't want them to play what they don't care for because that will encourage them to break up and above all we all don't want that.

I think they need to make a decision soon... Here are some options i think they have:

1) Appeal to mainstream radio and try to create a "hit"
2) Go indie and fund their own style of music
3) Realize that this is the straw that broke the camel's back and, sadly, break up the band.

None of those options seem like good ones to me...

[Hoodstock]

There hasn't been an official announcement about the end of their working relationship, but that's just a matter of time. Live is a free agent in the music industry and I hope it works to their advantage.

Has anyone seen any news or rumors about Live signing with a new record lable yet?
They're definately parting ways with Epic. The link to Epic is now gone from the friendsoflive.com site and they can't be found on the Epic site.

There's been a lot of optimistic talk about an 8th album and a concert CD on this site. I'm sure it will happen but nothing to my knowledge has been done with signing to a new lable to get that done.

Anyone have news?

[ladylakini17]

im really glad that theyre off epic. now their next album might actually be gooood. i mean sfbm was ok but its no copper or tdth

[SecretInsomnia]

maybe they will sign a new label by the time they want to release some stuff
wasn't it with Sony that they first made a cd (SFBM) and than signing Sony?
I even read posts in 2005 or 2006 on this board of people who said they made a commercial sounding album so Sony wanted them. Well that sounds weak, I think.
Now that they experienced that a great label as Sony isn't always that great, they hopefully see they needn't to be that commercial and just do it their own way. (the only thing Sony was good for was that we got a video for the River and my poster of SFBM hanging at my wall , that was all),
Btw, who knows they are release stuff on their own (at their website maybe).