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post Sep 11 2006, 9:55 am
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QUOTE(Kymra @ Sep 11 2006, 12:22 am) *

First of all, I want to say what you wrote is beautiful.

But, do any of you out there think that it's just ...well, wrong, to be memorializing and dramatizing this situtaion so soon after it happened? eh.gif I mean, if we were recognizing something that happened in the Vietnam war, I could see it. WWII, absolutely. But something that happened just 5 years ago? I think it's just a testament to what media whores not only the US are, but the entire world. no.gif


luff ya, Kymra, you know this....

but in my most humblest of opinions, passion and memorializng tragedy doesnt have a shelf life.

Our country did nothing for the GIs, their families, friends, loved ones who gave their all for Vietnam until it was way over due....the media whores had a field day during Vietnam posting daily casualties and the like. So much so that my mother had to stop watching the nightly news in fear of my father being listed. It is the callous oversight that cost our country years of giving OUR vets their due and the heart ache that accompanied my family and my military family was/ is costly.

my heart, prayers are with all affected by the tragedy and for those who are still giving their lives in our armed forces, the police, firefighters and those who love them. nothing we can do or say will ever erase the images of that tragic day.

*mollie hops off the soap box*


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post Sep 11 2006, 11:48 am
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lovely poem............can't believe it's already been 5 years...it's been on the tv here all day!! we must never forget...


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post Sep 13 2006, 11:14 pm
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QUOTE(PearlJamminJason @ Sep 11 2006, 10:13 am) *

As you know tomorrow marks the 5 year anniversary of the darkest day in history.


I dont know, I think the time you's wiped out Hiroshima with a nuke was pretty dark......or light depending on how you think about it.




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post Sep 14 2006, 12:39 am
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Or perhaps Americans should also be remembering September 11 1968 when they launched an attack on Chile because it was living under a socialist Government. and that meant that they were commies.

America kill more people that day then died in NY.

but lets not remember when America act as terrorists. cause their the good guys.


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post Sep 22 2006, 12:09 pm
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I have to say I completely agree with Kymra. And I'll even expand on that. This is going to sound awful and 100% cold, but I am so fucking sick of hearing about 9/11. We CAN'T forget because every single day in the news, at least here in NY, it's mentioned many times. I'm not saying we need to forget about it, but we need to be able to get past it and grow up. You have no idea how pissed I get when every other car out here has some sort of sticker on it that I have to stare at in this hidious traffic; either "Never Forget" or "9-11-01" where the 11 is actually a picture of the towers or "These Colors Don't Bleed", or some sort of salute to someone who was killed printed on the driver-asshole's windshield.

We seriously need to grow the fuck up, deal with it, and move on. That will never happen if every other asshole wears a shirt or slaps a sticker on their car begging for sympathy.

We all have our own tragedies in our personal lives but we don't have t-shirts made when it happens. I know many many many many people were directly affected. And I'm not arguing that this wasn't a huge lifestyle-altering event. And I was really upset and I did suffer from a bleeding, scared heart when it happened, but enough is enough. It can't be healthy to keep focusing on this the way we (as a country) do.



*IMHO*IMHO*IMHO* (for some stupid reason, that makes it ok for me to bitch about things without recourse.)


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QUOTE(slainte @ Sep 11 2006, 10:55 am) *

luff ya, Kymra, you know this....

but in my most humblest of opinions, passion and memorializng tragedy doesnt have a shelf life.

Our country did nothing for the GIs, their families, friends, loved ones who gave their all for Vietnam until it was way over due....the media whores had a field day during Vietnam posting daily casualties and the like. So much so that my mother had to stop watching the nightly news in fear of my father being listed. It is the callous oversight that cost our country years of giving OUR vets their due and the heart ache that accompanied my family and my military family was/ is costly.

my heart, prayers are with all affected by the tragedy and for those who are still giving their lives in our armed forces, the police, firefighters and those who love them. nothing we can do or say will ever erase the images of that tragic day.

*mollie hops off the soap box*

very nicely said


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post Sep 22 2006, 8:49 pm
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QUOTE(rocknerd @ Sep 14 2006, 1:39 am) *

Or perhaps Americans should also be remembering September 11 1968 when they launched an attack on Chile because it was living under a socialist Government. and that meant that they were commies.

America kill more people that day then died in NY.

but lets not remember when America act as terrorists. cause their the good guys.

Rocknerd, would you PLEASE do some research before you post stuff like this. How can anyone take you seriously when you can't even get the dates straight. Salvadore Allende was the socialist elected to be their president on November 3, 1970 (he captured 36.5% of the vote in a three-way race) and he called for a socialist government. He was supported in his run by Popular Unity, a coalition which included the Communist Party. Since he did not receive a majority of the vote, their Constitution called for their Congress to choose between the two candidates receiving the most votes (Jorge Allesandri was second with 35.2% of the vote). Okay, the Congress elected Allende after he agreed to full Constitutional guarantees. Of course, upon taking office one of the first things he called for was a new constitution. It has indeed been established that the CIA supported efforts to thwart his election. It is indeed the first time a socialist was elected in the Western Hemisphere.

The overthrow of the government occurred on September 11, 1973. Gen. Augusto Pinochet Ugarte took over the government and vowed to eradicate Marxists, killing somewhere between 3,000 and 10,000 depending on estimates. The CIA actually contributed to an aborted coup in June 1973 by a right-wing contingent of their military.

And you are damn right, we are the good guys!


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