home, too political? Options

[SJN1279]

I think the song is very positive. Its not like Pearl Jam, Bruce Springsteen, and Green Day forcing their views down others throats. I don't think the song is very political, its just about soldiers getting home safely. We all want that.

This post has been edited by SJN1279: May 4 2006, 8:27 am

[beau99]

I think the song is very positive. Its not like Pearl Jam, Bruce Springsteen, and Green Day forcing their views down others throats. I don't think the song is very political, its just about soldiers getting home safely. We all want that.

Only Green Day is satirizing the media, not being political.

But I agree with your post otherwise.

[MetsOwnYou]

I'm staunchly anti-war so Home and WAWFF aren't weak to me.

I am quite anti-war myself but that doesn't make the songs weak; the songs themselves make the songs weak.

Home is as irrelavant as WAWFF was back in 2003.

[arlecia]

Well, about WAWFF I was also a bit surprised...
bands have right to speak about everything,but they should never add some political thing in songs.

[MetsOwnYou]

Well, about WAWFF I was also a bit surprised...
bands have right to speak about everything,but they should never add some political thing in songs.

The fact that Live has these "anti-war" songs on their last two albums makes me not take the rest of the albums seriously.

[Gertjan]

The fact that Live has these "anti-war" songs on their last two albums makes me not take the rest of the albums seriously.

How's that?

[serene23]

When war is political (which is often the case), you can argue that anything about it is political. SFBM is clearly about love, hope and freedom so in that sense I see where this song comes from. That said, the message is kind of stating the obvious, nobody likes to see one their own men suffer or die.

Its a song, I don't think Ed meant to be deep with this song or the album. He likes to write upbeat, positive songs. Yes, its kinda corny, and one of my least favorite Live songs, but its growing on me, and not quite the crap that everyone says it is. SUre, its obvious, so what. Yeah, he has never fought in a war, nor has he ever killed anyone and dumped their body in a creek. Its simple, pop fluff, not overly political. It has a nice message.

[Gertjan]

Its simple, pop fluff, not overly political. It has a nice message.

That's exactly what I meant to say.

[phungi]

I completely agree with you (in fact, I have been saying this all along). WAWFF and Home really have no place on Live's albums. It bothers me that "rock" bands put ONE political outcry song on a cd full of songs with completely different messages. If you want to sing about politics, write the whole cd about it. If you really care about the war, get out there and say something (or actually fight dammit). As far as I'm concerned, Ed doesn't know anything about war and he should shut the fuck up. If you want to know about war, ask me. I'll tell you about war. Or better yet, ask someone who has fought in one. This is probably one of my least favorite songs on the cd. Honestly I'm glad someone from outside the United States realizes this because I've noticed that many non-Americans say this is their favorite song (and, for those of you that like this song - no, I am not saying your OPINION is wrong).

Ok sorry about that

reality check: Live/Ed can put whatever they want/feel/like on their albums. It is a work of art by artists. it makes more sense not to buy something that you disagree with than to censore the artist.

[torcatofan]

reality check: Live/Ed can put whatever they want/feel/like on their albums. It is a work of art by artists. it makes more sense not to buy something that you disagree with than to censore the artist.

Never said they couldn't...just said I didn't like it.

[rocknerd]

Music has always been political! it is necessary for musicians to write songs about politics as it affects both their fans and them personally.
Take artists like Bruce Springstein and Bob Dylan, their music is mainly about politics as it was the dominant factor in everyones life between 1950 and 1980.
and since 2001 politics has become the dominant factor in our lives again so its natural to have musicians writting political songs to show their point of view on what ever it is thats in the news.

If you dont like politics in your music its probably best to listen to jessica simpson.

[LiveattheOasis]

I find it laughable and even pathetic when ANY "artist" takes his/her liberties with things they have no clue about. I would not write about being president, because I have never been president. I am pretty sure going to war is not like being in love or any other great idea songwriters try to write about without having necessarily experiencing it. I suppose it would be one thing if there was some irony in what was being said, though I wouldn't necessarily be for it, I could respect it alot more. When it comes out as earnest it just seems so weak.

Artists can do whatever they want, and I will protect their ability to express themselves freely, but I will also express myself freely for/against their work.

[rocknerd]

I find it laughable and even pathetic when ANY "artist" takes his/her liberties with things they have no clue about. I would not write about being president, because I have never been president. I am pretty sure going to war is not like being in love or any other great idea songwriters try to write about without having necessarily experiencing it. I suppose it would be one thing if there was some irony in what was being said, though I wouldn't necessarily be for it, I could respect it alot more. When it comes out as earnest it just seems so weak.

Artists can do whatever they want, and I will protect their ability to express themselves freely, but I will also express myself freely for/against their work.

the song is not about what its like to be in the army! its about setting a clear date so that all those soldiers and their familes will know when their sons and daughters are coming home.

anyone can know what its like to worry about friends and family in war zones so get off your pro war horse and actually listen to the song instead of just presuming its anti-war......

[Gertjan]

I am pretty sure going to war is not like being in love or any other great idea songwriters try to write about without having necessarily experiencing it.

Ed has said he was very careful not to take stance against some particular war or make it overtly political. I guess that's why the song Home is written from the perspective of the individual with love and care for his family (lover and kids), something Ed has experience with.

[rocknerd]

Ed has said he was very careful not to take stance against some particular war or make it overtly political. I guess that's why the song Home is written from the perspective of the individual with love and care for his family (lover and kids), something Ed has experience with.

Well said.