What's Going On? Is Live Over? Options

[SinfulEyes]

Excuse me for not recalling which message board I was on. As far as insinuating I “lied”? Really? Must be cool to be so internet tough.

It sounds like Bremang was jokingly saying you were lying...

All of these revelations are making Live interesting again... is it possible it's a ploy to get the fan base talking about them again?

[briburge]

oldmanwithers, please release tdth outtakes and all is forgiven.

[Badman]

It sounds like Bremang was jokingly saying you were lying...

All of these revelations are making Live interesting again... is it possible it's a ploy to get the fan base talking about them again?

I highly doubt the fracturing of Gracey's family is worth the publicity that they'll get from this. All us longtime fans are hearing about it first, but I'm sure once Blabbermouth or some other outlet gets wind of this it'll cause more casual fans to flock to this board. It is interesting, but it is devastating at the same time. For us fans here, this has provided us some answers for why the band has been so stagnant since the "reunion."

[Photograph99]

It sounds like Bremang was jokingly saying you were lying...

All of these revelations are making Live interesting again... is it possible it's a ploy to get the fan base talking about them again?

If that is the case, I apologize. I guess all this just had me on edge. I’d always seen the band members as kind of heroes, because they are what got me into music and playing guitar as a youngster. Not realistic, I know. And I feel terrible for them.

[SinfulEyes]

I highly doubt the fracturing of Gracey's family is worth the publicity that they'll get from this. All us longtime fans are hearing about it first, but I'm sure once Blabbermouth or some other outlet gets wind of this it'll cause more casual fans to flock to this board. It is interesting, but it is devastating at the same time. For us fans here, this has provided us some answers for why the band has been so stagnant since the "reunion."

No you're totally right. That is such a shitty situation for all involved and super sad for us fans to see.

[SinfulEyes]

If that is the case, I apologize. I guess all this just had me on edge. I’d always seen the band members as kind of heroes, because they are what got me into music and playing guitar as a youngster. Not realistic, I know. And I feel terrible for them.

I feel ya. They're also the reason why I picked up a guitar and learned how to play it. All of this drama did inspire me to start listening to their music again though.

[Tips]

I haven't posted in 2 years but lurked around to get news about the band and... fucking hell I wasn't expecting this shit show...

If what is being said now is true, then we've been fooled by an amazing narcissist and props to CT for being very good at his manipulative craft.

For those questionning why CG and PD and others accepted it and went along with it, you might not understand how narcissists work. We're not talking about someone who is self-centered. True narcissists are VERY good at getting what they want from whomever they want (and yes that includes you who is reading these lines even if you think you would never fall for it). They are also excellent at building servile minions who will not only willingly be abused but will actually defend their abuser. So, it's completely possible that CG and PD just went along with it at the time and never saw what was really going on.

Which brings me to my other point: narcissists are masters at making the other party look like they're the problem in the eyes of everyone. Which basically means that, whether the true narcissist is Chad or Ed or even maybe both, as outsiders, we will never know because we cannot trust what ANYONE says. Although it looks like this latest development is reality, we will never know. Can we really trust Bill? Or Chad? Or Ed? Who here knows? No one.

When the whole Ed thing happened I was quite mean towards him. I might have been wrong and if so I'm sorry. But that's when I stopped listening to Live altogether because there was an emotional and spiritual side to Live that was erased by all the drama and bullshit. Since then, with everything that has happened, including the very little insight that came out of Chris Shinn, the only thing I see is a band made up of people who are full of shit because it's impossible for us to know who is and who isn't. So that won't change anything for me unfortunately. It's just another layer of shit added. If anything, to me, this band died after The Distance to Here. Even The Turn, which I loved, was tainted after Ed came back and this isn't helping.

This post has been edited by Tips: Jun 8 2022, 5:15 pm

[Bremang]

Excuse me for not recalling which message board I was on. As far as insinuating I "lied"? Really? Must be cool to be so internet tough.

I thought it was obvious that I was just kidding. Welcome!

[thefunkyredcaboose]

[live2cd]

well im glad someone told me to check FOL tonight.

we finally have some answers on why the band has been so quiet since the pandemic. absolute bummer as to why -- but im glad we have some information.

[dangum]

Ed posted this on Instagram today in the LIVE x AVIRA photo.



Edit: I accidentally cropped Ed's final response)

This post has been edited by dangum: Jun 9 2022, 6:58 am

[Bremang]

aggressive

[Deku]

Can we really trust Bill? Or Chad? Or Ed? Who here knows? No one.

The first thing Bill said that we had the means to actually check was debunked by Dan pretty quickly. So it's worth taking it all with a pinch of salt for now. Hard to ignore the smoke around CT though.

[The Thrill]

The first thing Bill said that we had the means to actually check was debunked by Dan pretty quickly. So it's worth taking it all with a pinch of salt for now. Hard to ignore the smoke around CT though.

What was “debunked”

[Lakini's Juice]

Oh boy! The drama surrounding these guys. smh