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> Lightning Crashes remix with Avira, Releases June 17, 2022
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post Jun 3 2022, 6:05 am
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This fucking band honestly. Can't even split up in a way that isn't confusing.

They've deflated like a balloon in these last couple of years. Other lesser bands grafted through Covid and are now back out there playing shows and with new music. Ed and Chad were on a weed podcast and we learnt Gracey is into some mad shit.

I know we're thirsty but this remix ain't it.


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post Jun 3 2022, 6:35 am
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Jun 3 2022, 4:27 am) *

All of the vocals are not from the original song. They're a re-recording.


Looks like re-recorded

https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h0OjE...id=MDJmNzVkMjY=


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post Jun 3 2022, 6:35 am
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This whole time, I thought there was an Ed and Chad T. alliance.
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This is a shit show.


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post Jun 3 2022, 7:29 am
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QUOTE(mattyeagles @ Jun 3 2022, 6:35 am) *



Good job finding this. That’s the armada PR lady who posted ed recording the new LC vocals

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post Jun 3 2022, 7:46 am
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Big thanks to everybody who has contributed links, photos, audio, video and screen shots. Great to see some activity in Live-land.


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post Jun 3 2022, 7:51 am
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QUOTE(Voodoo Lady @ Jun 3 2022, 6:35 am) *

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This whole time, I thought there was an Ed and Chad T. alliance.
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This is a shit show.



Seems like every sentence out of Bill contradicts the previous one. But ultimately you can tell he’s trying to say Ed good, Chad bad.

Ed is coming across as a heel in the comments for this IG post, talking about how all musicians these days have their head up their ass, and telling off that one fan who tried to say Live fans enjoy the band as a whole. Next, Ed then goes ahead and agrees with Mr Harassment and Fraud himself - Bill Hynes, about being Michael Jordan and how the others have an overblown sense of self worth. This shit is almost comical. During the first breakup like 12 years ago, the Chad supporters would ******relentlessly****** accuse Ed of allowing his ego to break up the band. However, there was really not a single sign of Ed having a big ego - it was a completely one sided and absurd smear campaign. Fast forward up to today - the same Chad lovers have now switched back to loving Ed - and even denouncing Chad, all while Ed’s ego is for once appearing to be overblown.

Behind the scenes it makes you wonder how each band member feels about the others and what has happened over covid. Obviously we know Bill and Chad had legal problems. What else happened? Or could the whole reconciliation leading to the reunion have been totally fake? Or does it go even deeper, do they manufacture drama just to grab attention to their new venture and give them an excuse to do side projects? TFG album 2 on the way? Haha


Ed might be Michael Jordan but that makes Chad into Pippen.. CCP proved they still put out good instrumental rock music with TGF and The Turn.

Good luck trying to rock any harder than adult contemporary with Loy as the VH1 readymade guitarist.

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post Jun 3 2022, 8:37 am
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Yeah, talking about a turn. I always thought Bill to be in the CCP camp but everything seems different now. Maybe they indeed had a fallout over Think Loud. Does Bill by any change own any rights over LIVE's catalog? He seems to defend that more than any person in particular.


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post Jun 3 2022, 10:47 am
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QUOTE
During the first breakup like 12 years ago, the Chad supporters
would ******relentlessly****** accuse Ed of allowing his ego to break up the band.


the same Chad supporters.... Ok, I'll play.

So once time passes and people figure out other people, how they are totally off their center, and behavior and words once told as the truth to paint the narrative...creating division
..people choosing sides based on louder voices.....people aren't allowed form a different opinion or belief? Especially when the onion gets peeled back, or the curtains are drawn open a bit?

Guess what.....to err is to be human.

In time, the settling down of all this will eventually come. But who knows if personal issues that cause many avenues of pain and confusion can be rectified. Eventually people run out of other peoples money and the next angle is attempted. The band performs the best when all are on the same page. Us fans know that. Ed brings the Live dynamic and CCP compliment perfectly to form the whole. Live is always the best as the 4 giving 120%. So to coin a phrase uttered in the past..."if you can give something and you won't, you have to ask yourself why you won't give it". The past few years, covid aside, have shown that the public face of Live is so far off from the internal face. And there are reasons for that.

From these instagrams, i think people can figure out who the fucking fool is. Trying to understand it
and make sense of it won't occur to some. Yeah, he said, he said......blah, blah

Something being communicated about some new activity quickly turns to the ugly side and the everything sets off, yet again. I get it, and only time and space will get to the other side.

Why has the band did odd thing instead of capitalizing on music they made that was suppressed?
Why were things handled oddly? Fans expecting some momentum and continuity, but often left wondering. The break up, TGF fizzling momentum, CS period, reunion drama?
Agreements...yes....Dynamics...yes.....ego...yes......some deception? definitely!

Hope that all this stuff gets sorted out and back to the music. If not, then call it a day and move on.

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post Jun 3 2022, 11:09 am
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Choosing sides based on louder voices is truly stupid.


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post Jun 3 2022, 7:34 pm
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Ed made his ig private


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post Jun 4 2022, 4:12 am
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Jun 3 2022, 7:34 pm) *

Ed made his ig private


Yes, it already was for quite some time or at least was set to private a while ago as well.


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post Jun 5 2022, 1:18 pm
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QUOTE(SecretInsomnia @ Jun 4 2022, 4:12 am) *

Yes, it already was for quite some time or at least was set to private a while ago as well.


Meaning? If you already follow him, nothing would appear different.
However, he’s now done something with his privacy settings because the option to comment on any of his IG posts isn’t available and all previous comments are gone/erased.


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QUOTE(Voodoo Lady @ Jun 5 2022, 1:18 pm) *

Meaning? If you already follow him, nothing would appear different.
However, he’s now done something with his privacy settings because the option to comment on any of his IG posts isn’t available and all previous comments are gone/erased.


I meant, I wasn’t following him for a while because nothing happened in LIVE-land. Then around the time he changed his profile picture, his profile was private. Decided to follow him again and now I still do.


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post Jun 5 2022, 10:32 pm
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QUOTE(ridley @ Jun 3 2022, 12:52 pm) *

They are the original vocals, just sped up and manipulated.

QUOTE(Bremang @ Jun 3 2022, 1:51 pm) *

Honestly, I love that you said this! And I'm a huge fan of your compilations.

I've had people question my ears before. I'm telling you - not the same as the original.

If you want me to point out some of the differences in the singing I will isolate a couple seconds that would leave no doubt.

QUOTE(Bremang @ Jun 3 2022, 10:29 pm) *

Good job finding this. That’s the armada PR lady who posted ed recording the new LC vocals

Well shut my mouth - I was wrong! facepalm.gif

He is definitely trying to sound more like TC era Ed than his usual in concert performances - had me fooled...

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post Jun 6 2022, 4:10 am
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it does sound like he tried to mimic the original recording a bit. I'm assuming there would be some legalities to sort out if they sampled the original song.


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