Pat Dahlheimer touring with Daughtry, Feb and March 2022 Options

[dangum]

Some footage of Patrick on stage with Daughtry at their first show (I think)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpHL9Vg66_g

[JonSnow]

Some footage of Patrick on stage with Daughtry at their first show (I think)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpHL9Vg66_g

It's so weird seeing him playing with anyone but CCE, but a bass player gotta eat. He's far too talented to just be sitting around doing nothing.

[Bremang]

happy he gets a paycheck, sorry he has to play such lame music

[dangum]

Get to see more of Pat in this video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6umou4CaNqc

[Hoodstock]

If Pat is in, why the hell isn't Live on tour?

[Voodoo Lady]

If Pat is in, why the hell isn't Live on tour?

Because I think it’s Gracey.

Wouldn’t members of bands have to show proof of vaccination or last 24 hour results from Covid test, just like we in the crowd do?? I haven’t traveled in a while, but don’t you have to do the same to get on a plane? And have you seen his stance on it all? It’s obvious by his IG posts.
Also, I don’t think this Chad even talks to the other Chad anymore. Perhaps because of this reason, and perhaps also because Gracey still seems ok with Hynes.
Which, previously led me to suggest the idea in another thread of temporarily replacing our drummer, but I don’t think anyone fully understood why Līve might need to. If Daughtry can get a sub for a bassist, why can’t Līve get a sub for someone who might not be ready to tour (his choice)?

This post has been edited by Voodoo Lady: Feb 12 2022, 12:23 pm

[Ed Addict]

Because I think it’s Gracey.

Wouldn’t members of bands have to show proof of vaccination or last 24 hour results from Covid test, just like we in the crowd do?? I haven’t traveled in a while, but don’t you have to do the same to get on a plane? And have you seen his stance on it all? It’s obvious by his IG posts.
Also, I don’t think this Chad even talks to the other Chad anymore. Perhaps because of this reason, and perhaps also because Gracey still seems ok with Hynes.
Which, previously led me to suggest the idea in another thread of temporarily replacing our drummer, but I don’t think anyone fully understood why Līve might need to. If Daughtry can get a sub for a bassist, why can’t Līve get a sub for someone who might not be ready to tour (his choice)?

Maybe I should be posting this on the "New Drummer" thread however has Chad Gracey's response to this scenario on the Fans of Live FB page from Feb 2 been addressed on this forum? From what I gather he's not done yet.

[Voodoo Lady]

Maybe I should be posting this on the "New Drummer" thread however has Chad Gracey's response to this scenario on the Fans of Live FB page from Feb 2 been addressed on this forum? From what I gather he's not done yet.

I’m not a Facebook user. What was the post?

[Ed Addict]

I’m not a Facebook user. What was the post?

I have no idea how to copy and paste on this forum so I will quote CG.

Nick Sacco says he's holding out hope for LIVE shows in 2022.

A member responds saying not without a drummer, don't think it'll happen.

Enter CG... "you seem to be a very informed authority on all things me. Tell me how I'm not down or in to tour with LIVE this year or any other year. I'm all ears. Spew your bullshit now."

[Voodoo Lady]

I have no idea how to copy and paste on this forum so I will quote CG.

Nick Sacco says he's holding out hope for LIVE shows in 2022.

A member responds saying not without a drummer, don't think it'll happen.

Enter CG... "you seem to be a very informed authority on all things me. Tell me how I'm not down or in to tour with LIVE this year or any other year. I'm all ears. Spew your bullshit now."

Thank you.

Don’t understand why the band just can’t be up front and honest. It is after all, the best policy.

[SJN1279]

Thank you.

Don’t understand why the band just can’t be up front and honest. It is after all, the best policy.

I hope that Ed's social media blackout ends soon.

On the plus side, Pat seems to be having a black on the Daughtry tour. He is also very active on IG!

[grandfalloon]

Because I think it’s Gracey.

Wouldn’t members of bands have to show proof of vaccination or last 24 hour results from Covid test, just like we in the crowd do?? I haven’t traveled in a while, but don’t you have to do the same to get on a plane? And have you seen his stance on it all? It’s obvious by his IG posts.
Also, I don’t think this Chad even talks to the other Chad anymore. Perhaps because of this reason, and perhaps also because Gracey still seems ok with Hynes.
Which, previously led me to suggest the idea in another thread of temporarily replacing our drummer, but I don’t think anyone fully understood why Līve might need to. If Daughtry can get a sub for a bassist, why can’t Līve get a sub for someone who might not be ready to tour (his choice)?

Again, you're just a sourpuss fan who dislikes Gracey because your personal opinions on a tyrannical overreach by Govt/Big Pharma don't align with his.

Did it ever occur to you Gracey isn't holding up anything?

It could be another band member?

It could be the issue around how insurance companies agree to pay bands if the shows get canceled?

It could be how much a venue/or the booking agents were willing to pay a band or artist?

Could be they are waiting until all this stuff goes away? ...looks like people who edict-ed this mess into society are about to run out of places to hide.

Have you even considered the massive hyper-inflation over the past 12 months has cut into after tax, take home pays for crews, support staff, other band/tour folks, not to mention the artists?

Slow your fucking roll on this already. Maybe take Nick's stance about positivity for future performances.

[Bremang]

Again, you're just a sourpuss fan who dislikes Gracey because your personal opinions on a tyrannical overreach by Govt/Big Pharma don't align with his.

Did it ever occur to you Gracey isn't holding up anything?

It could be another band member?

It could be the issue around how insurance companies agree to pay bands if the shows get canceled?

It could be how much a venue/or the booking agents were willing to pay a band or artist?

Could be they are waiting until all this stuff goes away? ...looks like people who edict-ed this mess into society are about to run out of places to hide.

Have you even considered the massive hyper-inflation over the past 12 months has cut into after tax, take home pays for crews, support staff, other band/tour folks, not to mention the artists?

Slow your fucking roll on this already. Maybe take Nick's stance about positivity for future performances.

you fail to understand the point of a message board. We're free to speculate whatever we want. Also, trolling Gracey made him respond. that's all we wanted cause the band is silent.

[SJN1279]

Again, you're just a sourpuss fan who dislikes Gracey because your personal opinions on a tyrannical overreach by Govt/Big Pharma don't align with his.

Did it ever occur to you Gracey isn't holding up anything?

It could be another band member?

It could be the issue around how insurance companies agree to pay bands if the shows get canceled?

It could be how much a venue/or the booking agents were willing to pay a band or artist?

Could be they are waiting until all this stuff goes away? ...looks like people who edict-ed this mess into society are about to run out of places to hide.

If Live is waiting for covid to go away to tour again, I think they will be waiting a very long time.

[Voodoo Lady]

Again, you're just a sourpuss fan who dislikes Gracey because your personal opinions on a tyrannical overreach by Govt/Big Pharma don't align with his.

Did it ever occur to you Gracey isn't holding up anything?

It could be another band member?

It could be the issue around how insurance companies agree to pay bands if the shows get canceled?

It could be how much a venue/or the booking agents were willing to pay a band or artist?

Could be they are waiting until all this stuff goes away? ...looks like people who edict-ed this mess into society are about to run out of places to hide.

Have you even considered the massive hyper-inflation over the past 12 months has cut into after tax, take home pays for crews, support staff, other band/tour folks, not to mention the artists?

Slow your fucking roll on this already. Maybe take Nick's stance about positivity for future performances.

Just because a band is your favorite doesn’t mean you have to always kiss their asses and pretend everything they do or say is perfect and golden. I’ve seen the, “how dare you say anything bad about Līve or any of its members or you’re a horrible fan” thing going on for some time and it is preposterous. I have loved Līve for 30 years, but when they are bullshitting about something, or phoning it in, I can sure enough be honest enough to call them out on it. As Bremang mentioned, this is an online message board, meant for DISCUSSIONS of topics around a common interest. Therefore, I don’t have to “slow my roll” for shit. And that goes both ways. You can post/say what you want, I can/post say what I want, Chad Gracey himself can come in here and say/post what he wants, and we can like it, agree with it, or NOT!!!

I never once stated that I dislike CG’s stance on Covid protocol, mandates, rules, regulations etc. What I -have- stated is that I disagree with how he responds to and treats fans who question Līve’s status quo, setlists, etc (whatever else it’s been that he’s went off on). As I just stated, it’s a free world, he can say what in whatever tone he wants. Also, yes, I don’t always agree with the MANNER in which a fan asks, comments to him/in general, or comes at him with something. It’s my opinion that the way he goes about responding (at times) is NOT a good look. You can agree or not. -If you think what he spouts off about is always acceptable, fine. Go on with your bad self.

You know what, it -has- in fact occurred to me that perhaps he isn’t holding up anything. I’ve speculated tons of scenarios and reasons (your list summarized a lot of them) why Līve is silent and if you dig around, you’ll find it all on this board somewhere. And I see your little word play “ed dicted”, huh? Well guess what, I’ have and WILL call Ed out on subpar bullshit as well.

Anything else, “grandfalloon”? Perhaps you’d like to log in under your alt account and come at me with something else?