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post Jul 29 2021, 11:06 am
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QUOTE(Bob @ Jul 28 2021, 11:54 pm) *

Speaking of Live shows in 1998, they did something similar when they came to Seattle that year to play Bumbershoot in that they played a "secret show" at a super hip club called the Crocodile Cafe the night before the main event, but there is proof it existed: Me lol

I found out when the DJ on the local alternative radio station was hinting about it, so I called them and they told me where to go. IIRC you had to win tickets, so I took a friend and we bribed our way in. Cash is king, after all.

I was front row center and it was one of the best shows (Live or otherwise) I've ever been to. Live was on fire that night and, as far as I was concerned, on top of the world.

CHECK OUT THIS SETLIST:

Where Fishes Go
Still Aroused
Selling The Drama
Sun
Sparkle
AOY
Overcome
Face and Ghost
TMH
Vine Street
New City
Meltdown
I Alone
Don't Wait

Encore:
LC
LJ
Change

They played the same set the next day at Bumbershoot and I have a setlist, so I have physical proof that these songs were played. What a great weekend of music.


Don’t think there has been a setlist with more rare songs and deep cuts being played than this show. Maybe it was a bit shorter than their setlists post 2000, but it doesn’t matter. Any fan would go nuts, especially considering LIVE in that specific era. Damn.

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Ok, since it was clarified that the 930 Club show was 2001, these were the sets being used in that part of the calendar. I will list the 98 stuff too as there is record of it. I do not see a record of that secret show in my lists.

2001-05-05 - Downtown West Palm Beach - West Palm Beach, FL, USA - Sunfest 2001 – (bootleg avail)
Setlist:
Simple Creed
All Over You
Selling The Drama
The Beauty Of Gray
They Stood Up For Love
Voodoo Lady
Turn My Head*
Freaks
Lightning Crashes
Deep Enough
The Dolphin's Cry
Lakini's Juice
Run To The Water
I Alone
* acoustic

For the 98 shows around Tibetian and the other club shows, the setlists align with what Bob and Briburge have stated.

1998-06-13 - RFK Stadium - Washington, DC, USA - Tibetan Freedom Concert
Setlist:
Where Fishes Go
I Alone
Don't Wait
All Over You
Change
Lightning Crashes

1998-03-08 - CBGB's - New York, NY, USA – (no bootlegs)
Setlist:
Sun
Don't Wait
New City
They Stood Up For Love
Still Aroused
Wash the Blood Away
Change
Lakini's Juice

1998-03-09 - Carnegie Hall - New York, NY, USA - Tibet House Benefit (no bootlegs)
Setlist:
Overcome
Lightning Crashes

1998-05-28 - The Viper Room - Los Angeles, CA, USA (no bootlegs circulated, but exists)
Setlist:
Still Aroused
New City
Meltdown
Overcome
Face and Ghost
Where Fishes Go
Sparkle
Don't Wait
Change
Vine Street
Sun
They Stood Up For Love


1998-06-09 - The Chameleon Club - Lancaster, PA, USA ( partial bootlegs circulating)
Setlist:
Vine Street
Still Aroused
Sun
Sparkle
Meltdown
All Over You
Face and Ghost
Overcome
Turn My Head
Where Fishes Go
I Alone
Don't Wait
Lightning Crashes
Change
They Stood Up For Love

1998-06-10 - The Chameleon Club - Lancaster, PA, USA (bootleg exists - not circulated)
Setlist:
Where Fishes Go
Still Aroused
Sun
Sparkle
Meltdown
All Over You
Face and Ghost
Overcome
Turn My Head
Vine Street
New City
I Alone
Don't Wait
Change
They Stood Up For Love


1998-06-11 - The Chameleon Club - Lancaster, PA, USA (partial bootleg circulating)
Setlist:
Where Fishes Go
Still Aroused
Sun
Sparkle
Meltdown
All Over You
Face and Ghost
Overcome
Turn My Head
Vine Street
New City
I Alone
Don't Wait
Change
Lakini's Juice
They Stood Up For Love


1998-06-16 - The Stone Pony - Asbury Park, NJ, USA (no known bootlegs )
Setlist:
Where Fishes Go
Still Aroused
Sun
Sparkle
Meltdown
All Over You
Face and Ghost
Overcome
Turn My Head
Vine Street
New City
I Alone
Don't Wait
Change
They Stood Up For Love


1998-06-17 - Arena's Bar and Deli - Rehoboth Beach, DE, USA (no known bootlegs)
Setlist:
Selling The Drama
Freaks
Pain Lies On The Riverside


1998-06-19 - Trax - Charlottesville, VA, USA (no known bootlegs)
Setlist:
Where Fishes Go
Still Aroused
Sun
Sparkle
New City
All Over You
Face and Ghost
Overcome
Turn My Head
Vine Street
Meltdown
I Alone
Don't Wait
Lakini's Juice
They Stood Up For Love


1998-06-20 - Marshall Park - Charlotte, NC, USA - Summer sounds Festival (many bootlegs)
Setlist:
Where Fishes Go
Still Aroused
Selling The Drama
Sun
Sparkle
All Over You
Face and Ghost
Turn My Head
Vine Street
Freaks
Meltdown
I Alone
Don't Wait
Lakini's Juice
Lightning Crashes

1998-09-03 - Crocodile Cafe - Seattle, WA, USA (no known bootlegs)
Setlist:
Where Fishes Go
Still Aroused
Selling The Drama
Sun
Sparkle
All Over You
Overcome
Face and Ghost
Turn My Head
Vine Street
New City
Meltdown
I Alone
Don't Wait
Lightning Crashes
Lakini's Juice
Change



1998-09-04 - Seattle Center - Seattle, WA, USA – Bumbershoot (no known bootlegs)
Setlist:
Where Fishes Go
Still Aroused
Selling The Drama
Sun
Sparkle
All Over You
Face and Ghost
Turn My Head
Vine Street
New City
Meltdown
I Alone
Don't Wait
Lightning Crashes
Lakini's Juice
Change

no questions on the bootlegs that exist but not circulated!!! talktohand.gif


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QUOTE(Bob @ Jul 29 2021, 7:54 am) *

Speaking of Live shows in 1998, they did something similar when they came to Seattle that year to play Bumbershoot in that they played a "secret show" at a super hip club called the Crocodile Cafe the night before the main event, but there is proof it existed: Me lol

I found out when the DJ on the local alternative radio station was hinting about it, so I called them and they told me where to go. IIRC you had to win tickets, so I took a friend and we bribed our way in. Cash is king, after all.

I was front row center and it was one of the best shows (Live or otherwise) I've ever been to. Live was on fire that night and, as far as I was concerned, on top of the world.

CHECK OUT THIS SETLIST:

Where Fishes Go
Still Aroused
Selling The Drama
Sun
Sparkle
AOY
Overcome
Face and Ghost
TMH
Vine Street
New City
Meltdown
I Alone
Don't Wait

Encore:
LC
LJ
Change

They played the same set the next day at Bumbershoot and I have a setlist, so I have physical proof that these songs were played. What a great weekend of music.

I can swear that i remember video footage from a show with this (or similar) setlist. And it was shot from a balcony in a small club. I perfectly remember wfg (the one with the massive intro and stomping Chad) and a couole of other tracks. I may uave the vid somewhere in my cd archive. Too bad, i have no place to check it. Damned 21 century withiut cd roms.


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QUOTE(+Ed+ @ Jul 30 2021, 4:46 am) *

I can swear that i remember video footage from a show with this (or similar) setlist. And it was shot from a balcony in a small club. I perfectly remember wfg (the one with the massive intro and stomping Chad) and a couole of other tracks.

I think you're referring to a Chameleon Club show in 1998.
1998 Chameleon Club, Live footage of Where Fishes Go and Still Aroused!

QUOTE(+Ed+ @ Jul 30 2021, 4:46 am) *

Damned 21 century withiut cd roms.

Get yourself a USB DVD drive lol.gif
https://www.amazon.com/External-CD-DVD-Driv.../dp/B07MJW5BXZ/


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QUOTE(dangum @ Jul 30 2021, 3:24 am) *

I think you're referring to a Chameleon Club show in 1998.

Oh, exactly, Dan! So that's not a rarity. Thanks.

Funny enough, back in the days those videos seemed to be fine-quality lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif

QUOTE(dangum @ Jul 30 2021, 3:24 am) *

Get yourself a USB DVD drive lol.gif

Jokes aside, I checked the link and the shipment = the price of the product to my place.

Bleh

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QUOTE(+Ed+ @ Jul 30 2021, 2:24 pm) *
Funny enough, back in the days those videos seemed to be fine-quality lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif

Yeah, those videos looked great when your monitor was only 800x600 pixels in resolution.

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Jokes aside, I checked the link and the shipment = the price of the product to my place

Yeah, international shipping is a killer. I recently purchased a cassette tape from eBay. I was charged US $20.15 for postage to Australia. And it still took over a month to get here!

I'm sure USB DVD drives are available in a local store in Russia.


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They are!

Not that I need one anyway lol.gif


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QUOTE(livetbd @ Jul 27 2021, 12:43 pm) *

Thanks for the answers. I guess my years were off. It seems the 2001 show is it. I am just annoyed. That I cannot remember too much about this show when all their other shows are vivid in my head.


If you go into the "Multimedia" forum and search for 2001 then you will find a few shows from that year. There are setlists that will give you a general idea of what was played. However it looks like this 9:30 Club show was a special one so the setlist may have differed from the usual.


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QUOTE(dangum @ Jul 30 2021, 8:38 am) *

If you go into the "Multimedia" forum and search for 2001 then you will find a few shows from that year. There are setlists that will give you a general idea of what was played. However it looks like this 9:30 Club show was a special one so the setlist may have differed from the usual.


I checked my audio list and the only 9:30 club is from 2008.


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So we're saying there are recordings of New City that exist but are not in circulation? Anyone have them?


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QUOTE(briburge @ Jul 29 2021, 10:09 pm) *

saw a similar show at the stone pony in 1997 or 1998. they also played the alternative version (big band version) of tsufl that was awesome.

The Stone Pony show you're referring to was in 1998.
http://www.fansoflive.com/tour/history/1998/

Live did play the same venue in 1997, however it was a few days prior to the release of Secret Samadhi so they wouldn't have played the big bang version of TSUFL.


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QUOTE(dangum @ Aug 1 2021, 12:46 am) *

The Stone Pony show you're referring to was in 1998.
http://www.fansoflive.com/tour/history/1998/

Live did play the same venue in 1997, however it was a few days prior to the release of Secret Samadhi so they wouldn't have played the big bang version of TSUFL.

They played don’t wait, new city, still aroused, and change (all songs that didn’t make the cut for Ss). It was definitely the Big Bang version.


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QUOTE(briburge @ Aug 1 2021, 7:04 pm) *

They played don’t wait, new city, still aroused, and change (all songs that didn’t make the cut for Ss).

Those songs didn't make the cut for The Distance to Here. They were all played in 1998 and could have appeared on TDTH but for Ed's trip to the desert which resulted in a new direction for the album.


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QUOTE(dangum @ Aug 1 2021, 8:16 am) *

Those songs didn't make the cut for The Distance to Here. They were all played in 1998 and could have appeared on TDTH but for Ed's trip to the desert which resulted in a new direction for the album.

Correct. I misspoke with the album. My point was it was the Big Bang version. The final track listing must not have been done when that show happened. They played songs that didn’t make it along with a different version of tsufl.


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Of all the Live albums, The Distance To Here (along with Secret Samadhi) definitely have the most amount of studio outtakes, alternate edits, alternate arrangements, and unreleased studio tracks. There were a lot of "working" and "in progress" mixes to take home from their studio dailies.

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