Los Angeles, CA (Greek Theatre), August 6, 2019 Options

[dangum]

Bush / Live / Our Lady Peace

1. All Over You
2. Selling the Drama
3. Losing My Religion (R.E.M. cover)
4. Shit Towne
5. The Dolphin's Cry
6. Paint It Black (The Rolling Stones cover)
7. Lakini's Juice
8. I Alone
9. White, Discussion
Encore:
10.Heaven
11. Turn My Head
12. Lightning Crashes

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/live/2019/gr...a-539fbb3d.html

Why are the setlists getting shorter? Live started the tour playing 14 and now it's down to 12.

[dangum]

Videos from [justsayyear7]

I Alone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WknY7rpA3Kw

Lightning Crashes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59_bjo-nRwY

Paint It Black

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-mq7caxjM0

[dangum]

Videos from [Rafael Bravo]

Lightning Crashes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnfcemc0p_U

Turn My Head

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlF5iY3tnUc

[dangum]

Video from [Turd Ferguson]

Lightning Crashes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4QAbr37vko

Video from [TheDiamondave]

The Dolphin's Cry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-dDtilucik

[Possum Kingdom]

Bush / Live / Our Lady Peace
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/live/2019/gr...a-539fbb3d.html

Why are the setlists getting shorter? Live started the tour playing 14 and now it's down to 12.

Maybe they're giving OLP more time?

[dangum]

Maybe they're giving OLP more time?

Nope. Our Lady Peace are still playing the exact same 7 songs as they have all tour.

[LiveForNow]

I attended the show. Here are my unorganized thoughts.

The venue was almost entirely full, although many tickets on Stubhub were listed below face value. Unlike the Counting Crows show I attended where Live took the stage to a half empty amphitheater that filled in over time, the venue was practically full by the time Live took the stage. Live did the video intro for TC, but did not play TDAOC or Iris which was heartbreaking. While I personally would have preferred more Live songs than the covers, the covers got the biggest reactions/participation from the crowd (second only to maybe Lightning Crashes). Ed did not read lyrics from the ground, but he did fuck up on Give Me Shelter.

Between the three bands and set times, this really is a show catered to middle aged casual fans. No band played too long. I'm a casual Bush fan and I got to hear all the songs I know, plus a couple more. I'm sure that was the takeaway for the average person seeing Live. No band really dug into their catalogue. Bush however extended their songs with extended intros, outros, and solos, which is why they do fewer songs than Live.

Ed talked a lot, and Live could definitely fit in one or two more songs if Ed talked less. He also called for common sense gun control during WD, which I'd never heard him do before.

Overall, this concert is a nice stroll down memory lane in a beautiful outdoor amphitheater. Personally, I prefer GA rock shows. James Taylor can play amphitheaters. I want Live, Bush, and OLP to rock a warehouse. I would imagine that wouldn't sell as many tickets given the makeup of the audience. I think the average 50 year old casual fan loves going to a venue like the Greek, and the amphitheaters are one of the big reasons this show is doing do well.

If I were a promoter, I'd be thrilled with this show. I'm shocked this bill is filling 5-6k venues. They clearly did something right but putting this bill together and picking the venues.

I never got to see Live before the breakup, and now that they're back this is probably my fifth show. Knowing the setlist, I'd probably skip this type of show next go around unless I got cheap tickets. I've seen this setlist, and there are no surprises. It's a great show for a casual fan, but for the die hards it leaves a lot to be desired. I'd also take Live at a festival over an amphitheater, since they tend to play early and you can get close to the stage and meet other diehard Live fans.

I may go see Live at the 9:30 Club in DC and I'll report back if that show feels much different. Really, one of my favorite things about seeing Live these days is meeting other diehard fans, who at GA shows can all be found right up front. I really didn't meet any diehards this time around. More people were there to see Bush, and the people around me were all casuals. I'm hoping the 9:30 Club show will be diehards.

This post has been edited by LiveForNow: Aug 7 2019, 4:40 pm

[LiveForNow]

One last thing about the setlists for all three bands. This is clearly designed for a casual fan audience member to hear the hits and go home. No time wasted hearing songs the average person doesn't know. I think that's a big reason for the covers. Live doesn't have two more hits the average person would know. So instead of playing Hold Me Up or Operation Spirit, they play a cover and the crowd goes crazy. Both Live and Bush kept the casual's attention for 70 minutes, which isn't the easiest thing to do when you only have 5/6 well-known hits. Live fills their time with covers, Bush fills the time with extending their songs musically.

[Voodoo Lady]

I very much appreciate your review and perspective on “the why” of the tour. I think you are correct, this is absolutely a tour for the casuals. I’ve noticed the crowds overseas get more of a treat when they tour there, as it’s not expected as “all casuals.” Bummer. I crave to attend a show with other Līve diehards, too. I hope you get to attend the D.C. show. It will be so interesting to see what they do with that one.

[rivertown]

I very much appreciate your review and perspective on “the why” of the tour. I think you are correct, this is absolutely a tour for the casuals.

I mean, they can't be THAT casual though, right? They bought a ticket. I'd really wager that if the crowd knows "Shit Towne" they know "Waitress".

[SJN1279]

One last thing about the setlists for all three bands. This is clearly designed for a casual fan audience member to hear the hits and go home. No time wasted hearing songs the average person doesn't know. I think that's a big reason for the covers. Live doesn't have two more hits the average person would know. So instead of playing Hold Me Up or Operation Spirit, they play a cover and the crowd goes crazy. Both Live and Bush kept the casual's attention for 70 minutes, which isn't the easiest thing to do when you only have 5/6 well-known hits. Live fills their time with covers, Bush fills the time with extending their songs musically.

Very good perspective. I heard from some fans that Ed was a bit hoarse last week, maybe he cut a song or two to preserve his voice.

Iris sounds like it would be a tough one when your throat is hurting.

This post has been edited by SJN1279: Aug 7 2019, 8:10 pm

[dangum]

Videos from [AJ. Johnson]

Losing My Religion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkOBvLjouQA

Paint It Black

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5FEJ7d3Bqw

Lakini's Juice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAp2T_QNJRA


Videos from [MegaArmymom1]

Selling the Drama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x07NjnrDKNw

The Dolphin's Cry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6KaNwvc638

[LiveForNow]

I mean, they can't be THAT casual though, right? They bought a ticket. I'd really wager that if the crowd knows "Shit Towne" they know "Waitress".

No one around me reacted to Shit Towne. I think most didn't know it.

[LiveForNow]

Also, it seemed like Ed took more breaks during the songs and pointed the mic to the audience accordingly than he usually does. As others have pointed out, I think cutting songs to preserve Ed's voice is a valid theory. However, Ed did point the mic to audience way less during Lightning Crashes than he normally does.

What's also shocking is they didn't sell TC25 at the merch table. You'd think they'd plug TC25 and play Hold Me Up to get people to impulse buy, but alas that's not what they're doing.

The second drummer seems unnecessary except for when he plays tambourine or shaker.

Zak played all the speciality instruments, such as the mandolin for Losing my Religion and a specific guitar for Paint it Black. Many on here have said this is Zak's band now but I'm not really sure what they mean by that?

[Gruno]

What's also shocking is they didn't sell TC25 at the merch table. You'd think they'd plug TC25 and play Hold Me Up to get people to impulse buy, but alas that's not what they're doing.

I don't find that shocking at all. It's a hassle to bring CDs on tour for many reasons.

Venues take a percentage of all sales. This percentage varies from venue to venue. Some venues take as much as 30% from the gross on all sales. Other venues have different percentages based on different products. For example, a venue might take a cut like this: t-shirts 20%; media 30%; paper goods 15%, etc. Live would have to give the venue between 10-30% of all gross sales if they sold TC25 on the road. That means they would need to increase the price at the merch table.

This also answers the questions people have when tour merch goes on sale on a band's website with prices lower than they were on tour.

Another reason to not bring TC25 out is that there will be loss/theft/returns. Some people must have mint condition, so they will stand at the merch booth and request multiple copies to choose from. Any broken or damaged TC25s as a result of tour life would be useless for resale. Bringing vinyl to shows, especially in summer months, is a huge liability. Vinyl being transported each day in a huge metal trailer is not ideal.