Crowd Size Options

[san_sao]

Definitely a pleaser!

Now that one is the definition of a face melter.

On both counts, Indiana Jones style, lol. Psychotic Supper was a blast. I also remember Love Song on MTV waaaayyyyy back in Junior High. Tesla and Cinderella were my favorites (with the Crüe) from that era, but I was just young enough to not really get it. Live, on the other hand...

Live should do some hair metal covers, lol.

[Bremang]

Why must you resort to child-like patronizing?

you are inferring that sjn is patronizing cause existentalist merely gave a summary of sjns posts

[Ecstatic Fanatic]

Smaller crowd sizes for Live and CC shows seems somewhat expected to me. Both band's are years past their peak popularity and haven't really done much to expand their core group of fans in years. So you don't have a large pool of people who are going to be too interested in the concerts in general and then you throw in overpriced tickets (excluding the lawn seats Groupon deal) and it's no surprise there 100 and 200 level seats are empty.

I really like Live and am excited to see them. How many other people in the US would say that? My guess is that there aren't enough core Live fans left to fill venues like the ones they are visiting now regardless of the setlist or ticket prices, or how the new music sounds. Live with Chris had a lot heavier sound that alot of people liked better than what we are getting now, but if I recall they struggled with crowds then too.

To me the best solution seems to be playing smaller venues alone, similiar to Ed's Throwing Copper unplugged tour. Less seats to fill but they'd likely be able to charge a premium for the seats, and throw in all the extras (backstage passes, meet and greets, etc.) that they didn't do this tour. But maybe thats not financially feasible for a group of 4 to 6 band members and the stage crew and whoever else comes along.

This post has been edited by Ecstatic Fanatic: Aug 14 2018, 10:45 pm

[SJN1279]

PNC Arts Center in. NJ was packed, and the crowd was really into Live. Maybe one of the best shows that I’ve seen. Just awesome.

[OutToDry]

Hey the crowds are decent size. Not sellouts or capacity at all

It’s all fine though. They do sound tight and the performances are good.

Nick. Remember what I told you about propaganda?...think hard and always try to be fair.

The truth is many are enjoying this run and some aren’t and that’s ok. No matter if you support or not, it’s good the band continues

[livetbd]

Well, the Cleveland show had a pretty packed pavillion so no upgrades were given. Most of the people there , at least on the lawn, appeared to be Counting Crows fans and many of them arrived toward the end of Live’s set. I had one group sit directly behind me on the lawn and loudly state that hopefully they did not miss Lightning Crashes because it is the only song they like. Overall, the crowd on the lawn was pretty subdued until they played Lightning Crashes. I did see some more enthusiasm from the pavillion crowd, however.

[SJN1279]

Well, the Cleveland show had a pretty packed pavillion so no upgrades were given. Most of the people there , at least on the lawn, appeared to be Counting Crows fans and many of them arrived toward the end of Live’s set. I had one group sit directly behind me on the lawn and loudly state that hopefully they did not miss Lightning Crashes because it is the only song they like. Overall, the crowd on the lawn was pretty subdued until they played Lightning Crashes. I did see some more enthusiasm from the pavillion crowd, however.

I think the crowds are mainly there to see both bands. 7:30 is an early start time for a band to start a set. The end of Live's set is when the most people are at the shows. As Counting Crows goes on with their set, they lose more and more fans.

In Atlantic City, i stayed for the CC. A decent show, with a boring middle. I would say that nearly half the people were gone by the end of their set.

[lylebeach]

I think the crowds are mainly there to see both bands. 7:30 is an early start time for a band to start a set. The end of Live's set is when the most people are at the shows. As Counting Crows goes on with their set, they lose more and more fans.

In Atlantic City, i stayed for the CC. A decent show, with a boring middle. I would say that nearly half the people were gone by the end of their set.

It’s so weird to me, to think that you truly believe that people can’t get to a show at 7:30pm. I live in one of the worst traffic areas in the country and I was at my show in plenty of time to see Live. In fact, I even worked a full day, had some BBQ with my friends before the show, drove 50 minutes to get to the place, and even played cornhole and drank beers in the venue parking lot for an hour before I meandered into the security line. I still had time to check out the merch booth, and buy a beer.

If you are there to see Live you would be there at the beginning of their set. Plain and simple.

The way you fantasize about it, you make it as if people only want to see the last half of one band, and the first half of the second, and that’s what’s going on.

This post has been edited by lylebeach: Aug 30 2018, 12:29 am

[SJN1279]

It’s so weird to me, to think that you truly believe that people can’t get to a show at 7:30pm. I live in one of the worst traffic areas in the country and I was at my show in plenty of time to see Live. In fact, I even worked a full day, had some BBQ with my friends before the show, drove 50 minutes to get to the place, and even played cornhole and drank beers in the venue parking lot for an hour before I meandered into the security line. I still had time to check out the merch booth, and buy a beer.

If you are there to see Live you would be there at the beginning of their set. Plain and simple.

The way you fantasize about it, you make it as if people only want to see the last half of one band, and the first half of the second, and that’s what’s going on.

Atlantic City Show, Live went on 850, full house at the start of their set. Set time has a lot to do with this tour.

Most people going to these shows are there just to see a concert. Live has their hardcore fans, so does Counting Crows, but a good number this tour are just casual fans of 90s music.

[Possum Kingdom]

but a good number this tour are just casual fans of 90s music.

Spot on and that will be Live's bread and butter until they decide to go their separate ways (again).

They will never be able to fill big venues by themselves so teaming up with another nostalgia act seems like a wise move now and moving forward.

This formula works perfectly for them. They will never have to practice and can keep the same core 15 songs in rotation for their sets. Gravy!