Tour Announcement coming soon, Summer 2018 Options

[SJN1279]

Brilliant post with all valid points. But what do we know?... we are not in the music business. We just
have fantasy opinions.

Live haven't played an ampitheater tour in North America since 2000. The fact that we are getting one that hits all across the country is a great thing.

Live did play a few solo headline shows last year, and last year was very successful for the band. Small venues will come, but I feel Live should be playing in front of as many people as possible. The summer tour gives them that chance.

[Voodoo Lady]

Live haven't played an ampitheater tour in North America since 2000. The fact that we are getting one that hits all across the country is a great thing.

Live did play a few solo headline shows last year, and last year was very successful for the band. Small venues will come, but I feel Live should be playing in front of as many people as possible. The summer tour gives them that chance.

But what initiated this conversation is that they have to either open or coheadline to make it to these amphitheaters. When as someone else said, they are too great of a band for that; the best band from their time. I reiterate, that if Live played their cards differently and were faster about things, they wouldn’t have to open or coheadline this summer.

[SJN1279]

But what initiated this conversation is that they have to either open or coheadline to make it to these amphitheaters. When as someone else said, they are too great of a band for that; the best band from their time. I reiterate, that if Live played their cards differently and were faster about things, they wouldn’t have to open or coheadline this summer.

Not necessarily. Some fans will love the new music, and some won't. Radio play is always an uphill battle, and nothing is a given. I rather the band take their time, than rush for the sake of rushing out new music.

[Bremang]

I'm not a newer fan, so not sure one's preference might be unless he comments in the thread.

aw man, how come you haven't seen them in a smaller venue?

[Bremang]

The reissue was cool but it could have been over the top had they reissued it with one, two, or three new songs added on. I can think of another band that reunited in a successful way doing that with a greatest hits album. They put out videos for the songs too and went on a full scale headlining tour afterwards. It was awesome.

Yeah I wish there were more MJ b-sides out there. The only one that never saw an official release was born branded. The concert cd was a nice touch. I hope you meet Chad one day and get some answers

[Bremang]

If Live performed a new song at the reunion show and it kicked ass, then people like Pokey might still be around.

more hardcore fans would show up if their was new music for sure, but i think pokey rejection the reunion in general

[SJN1279]

Yeah I wish there were more MJ b-sides out there. The only one that never saw an official release was born branded. The concert cd was a nice touch. I hope you meet Chad one day and get some answers

I like most of Live's music, but I didn't care for the Mental Jewelry b-sides much at all. However, I'm looking forward to the Throwing Copper, Secret Samahdi, and TDTH b-sides if they come.

[throwing_cheetahs]

I like most of Live's music, but I didn't care for the Mental Jewelry b-sides much at all. However, I'm looking forward to the Throwing Copper, Secret Samahdi, and TDTH b-sides if they come.

You haven't got the Secret Samadhi demos? The Churchbox Sessions are available if you ask and they are lossless studio quality. Chad released them a few years back online.

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[Voodoo Lady]

Yeah I wish there were more MJ b-sides out there. The only one that never saw an official release was born branded. The concert cd was a nice touch. I hope you meet Chad one day and get some answers

Really no need to patronize.

[throwing_cheetahs]

If Live performed a new song at the reunion show and it kicked ass, then people like Pokey might still be around.

The main reason i am disappointed we (almost all of us) haven't heard a new song is because they already performed one (10,000 Cups) almost a year ago at a rehearsal.

Link to thread about new song:
http://www.fansoflive.com/forums/index.php...5&hl=10000+cups

This post has been edited by throwing_cheetahs: Mar 21 2018, 11:40 pm

[Gruno]

Brilliant post with all valid points. But what do we know?... we are not in the music business. We just
have fantasy opinions.

I agree with your last statement -- even though it was riddled with sarcasm.

Voodoo Lady, you said: “Live’s spent a lot of the last year and first three months of this year sitting on their hands.” And also: “They currently could still tour mid sized venues with someone opening for them.”

How do you come up with the idea of mid-sized venue? What would you base your claim upon? Just curious.

Do you realize a band just doesn’t decide to book shows in venues they want with the dates they want? They might request certain venues, but those requests may not be met for numerous reasons. Marketing and projections are determined based off of the bands popularity within a country—then wittled down to territories, then cities, which includes previous tour financial returns with regards to profits/losses.

A band decides what time of year they go on tour. That is usually decided between band and management based off of many factors. A booking agent is given the timeframe and desired net income that the band has agreed upon. That booking agent then routes options for the band including their financial guarantees per venue. The band then decides which option works best for them.

Sometimes it is a better financial avenue to do co-headlining/package tours based off of many factors, two of those being promotion and production cost. Do you know what each band asks for as a financial guarantee from promoters? Have you a clue at what the overhead is for all production costs for each band? What is the bottom line for staff wages, transportation (equipment & individuals), cartage fees, equipment supplies, meals, promotion, lodging, graphic design, management, and on and on?

Would you rather they not have done any shows since their New Year’s Eve reunion performance? Maybe they should not have done that NYE show, in your eyes? Would you rather they not tour, which is a good source of income for Live (and all staff involved) and their well being for their families? It is, after all, their jobs. It's their business.

You want new music from Live, but you want it when you want it; not when Live is ready to deliver – no, that’s not good enough for you. So they played "10.000 Cups" as a new song. Does that mean it is ready to be released? Have you any insight into the creative process from songwriting to production? Demoing? Rewrites? Mixing, remixing, mastering? Don’t you want them to deliver some kickass songs? Would you rather half-assed tracks because “the fans want something new”? Do you know if they have secured a record deal (if that is their intent) or united with a distributor? Any idea if they have those in place, what that company is requiring as far as timeframe? What about their publishing legalities – is all of that finalized?

As a footnote in general: one can’t compare bands such as Stone Temple Pilots with Live and expect them to mimic the same design.

You also said: When as someone else said, they are too great of a band for that; the best band from their time. -- That's pure opinion (one that I agree with as far as great band from their time), but that does not exactly translate to what the general public agrees with. Go to the Bush message boards, STP boards, etc, and I'm sure those fans will proclaim the same for their band they are championing.

There are many more factors involved with touring and releasing music, I just outlined a portion of it. You can be snarky about it in return, or understand the difference between knowing the way things are within the music industry/music business vs. fantasizing about what your favorite band should do.

Trust me when I say that I fully understand your passion for Live.

[throwing_cheetahs]

Hey Gruno
Your link doesn't work for your radio show you use for your sig at the bottom. I was gonna check it out.

This post has been edited by throwing_cheetahs: Mar 22 2018, 12:51 pm

[Gruno]

Hey Gruno
Your link doesn't work for your radio show you use for your sig at the bottom. I was gonna check it out.

Yeah, after 10+ years I decided to halt it as I had grown tired of doing a weekly format. I used to run it on Monday nights, which took me away from Monday Night Football for many years. Then I changed it to Friday nights, which killed my Fridays. So, I will resume one day in the near future, as I've recently gotten a fair amount of requests for it. Thanks!

[Hoodstock]

There are rumblings of a big North American tour for this summer. An announcement is on the way, and I’m hearing sooner than later. Stay tuned......

Rumblings from where? Seems pretty obvious with a new single coming out that there will be some shows.

Anyone could have made that post about a possible upcoming tour.

Based on the title of this thread and the dates of these statements I'd say I was pretty spot on.

Still waiting ............

This post has been edited by Hoodstock: Mar 22 2018, 2:37 pm

[SJN1279]

Based on the title of this thread and the dates of these statements I'd say I was pretty spot on.

Still waiting ............

It was thought to announce much sooner than it did. It's coming