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post Dec 16 2016, 10:50 am
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QUOTE(World Dreamer @ Dec 17 2016, 2:25 am) *

This kind of goes back to what kicked all this crap off. We don't know. If we knew then we could all agree and move on.

Instead we bicker and take sides. Live could fix this so easily, but instead their mouthpiece is on Facebook trashing fans or Shinn or whatever else.


The problem now is with Live fixing things is how can you believe anything they say? Their explanation could just be fake. I mean now according to The Thrill on FB, the turn was pulled because it is owned by some non affiliated record label....I mean, what? Suddenly the first mention of any other label that isn't their own. And why in the blue hell would any label pull an item when Live is to receive publicity like they haven't had in years. The more the story is explained, the less it makes sense. Too many 180s being done by people trying to chase their own BS. So even if there is some truth to whatever is being said, I feel like everyone in that camp now is the boy who cried wolf.

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post Dec 16 2016, 11:08 am
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QUOTE(vivapokey @ Dec 16 2016, 11:50 am) *

The problem now is with Live fixing things is how can you believe anything they say? Their explanation could just be fake. I mean now according to The Thrill on FB, the turn was pulled because it is owned by some non affiliated record label....I mean, what? Suddenly the first mention of any other label that isn't their own. And why in the blue hell would any label pull an item when Live is to receive publicity like they haven't had in years. The more the story is explained, the less it makes sense. Too many 180s being done by people trying to chase their own BS. So even if there is some truth to whatever is being said, I feel like everyone in that camp now is the boy who cried wolf.



Wikipedia shows the label as Think Loud Recordings. Amazon lists it as Think Loud.

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post Dec 16 2016, 12:31 pm
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When you Think Loud, you think Le Chad Le Chad and Le Pat, non?


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post Dec 16 2016, 1:31 pm
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To be honest, the worst thing that ever happened to Live and the fan base (at least those that aren't lemming) was Bill.


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post Dec 16 2016, 2:32 pm
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QUOTE(CTFD40 @ Dec 16 2016, 1:31 pm) *

To be honest, the worst thing that ever happened to Live and the fan base (at least those that aren't lemming) was Bill.



Total shit show.

CCP and Bill are the common denominator. Maybe I was too harsh on Ed?

Wonder if Shinn invested into UFD and if there is more to this story?






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QUOTE(Possum Kingdom @ Dec 16 2016, 3:32 pm) *

Total shit show.




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post Dec 16 2016, 3:08 pm
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shit bags FACT


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post Dec 16 2016, 3:20 pm
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I think +Live+ thinks we are all idiots. In some cases they may be correct. Shit bags


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QUOTE(SoL @ Dec 16 2016, 3:20 pm) *

I think +Live+ thinks we are all idiots. In some cases they may be correct. Shit bags


For following them through this shit storm, you're right, we're all fucking morons.


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post Dec 16 2016, 4:27 pm
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QUOTE(World Dreamer @ Dec 16 2016, 10:22 am) *

He probably never literally said "I hate CCP", but he spoke about them just like The Thrill spoke about Ed (minus the cursing)

He also said that The Turn had too many solo's by CT because CT wanted the spotlight


Funniest thing ever...there's what 2 solos in the turn, and we know it's not Taylor's strength. If he actually said that, that's hilarious.


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I've really lost track of what you people are all talking about. My opinions are thus:

1) Its good to see the original band settling their differences; whether what comes out of it is good or not remains to be seen.

2) I look forward to a new album and new tour.

3) I don't care who is or is not selling The Turn, I bought it on release day.

All this other stuff about shit storms and the band thinking that people are stupid, I really don't understand.


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post Dec 16 2016, 4:48 pm
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I've said it before and I will say it again. This is so entertaining.

Can someone post a bullet point rundown of all that we've learned over the last 2 weeks, from undeserving sh*tbags who dared to question the statement that Ed never stole anything to the fact that ball-less Shinn had nothing to do with The Turn and The Turn was put out by a third party record label? I would love to see a complete summary of this sh*t show.


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post Dec 16 2016, 4:51 pm
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The simple thing is:

1. Noone cares about a bunch of fans on a webboard. Webboard? It's 21 century ffs! The majority will hear an ad or see a banner online saying that the ORIGINAL lineup is back together, hear LC in the back or IA accompanying and go: Huh? They are really back! Haven't head about them since 1995. Cool.

And the majority will recognise the bald head.

2. We will hardly know the truth soon. Who needs it? The Turn did not exist. The truth is that the band is back. Finally. After Ed's solo career.

3. All we get in the nearest future is the same setlist during several shows and the worldwide tour will def be a US + Netherlands and hardly anything else tour.

That's about it.

This band used to mean the world to me. I wish I never had an internet connection.


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post Dec 16 2016, 5:55 pm
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QUOTE(CTFD40 @ Dec 16 2016, 1:31 pm) *

To be honest, the worst thing that ever happened to Live and the fan base (at least those that aren't lemming) was Bill.



FACT. TRIED POINTING THIS OUT SEVERAL TIMES over the last 2 years but I was ganged up on and just kept getting ganged up on and told how great he is.
I know people will get sick of me saying shit about it and I'm sorry but I can't help it.
It really sucked. They need to ban him from posting here.
I'm glad people are now seeing his ugliness like I did. I still think he was the one that made the twitter account of my cat when he died. They Need to break free of everything hynes asap.

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post Dec 16 2016, 10:22 pm
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QUOTE(Live4Life @ Dec 16 2016, 5:55 pm) *

FACT. TRIED POINTING THIS OUT SEVERAL TIMES over the last 2 years but I was ganged up on and just kept getting ganged up on and told how great he is.
I know people will get sick of me saying shit about it and I'm sorry but I can't help it.
It really sucked. They need to ban him from posting here.
I'm glad people are now seeing his ugliness like I did. I still think he was the one that made the twitter account of my cat when he died. They Need to break free of everything hynes asap.



If it's any consolation, I've been thinking this for years. The way the "inner circle" fawns all over him is just ridiculous. Even though he says he doesn't represent the band, he's the closest thing to representation that the band has here and the way he goes after people who disagree with him is unsettling.


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