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post Nov 25 2016, 8:23 pm
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Sweet Surrender (off the Alive album, it's a bonus track from Europe)

There were 3 extra tracks that were mentioned around the release of Alive. They were "A New World", "Eat Your Love" and "Sweet Surrender". The first two were made available (via a bonus vinyl and direct downloads from Ed's store), but Sweet Surrender never surfaced.
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post Nov 25 2016, 8:55 pm
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QUOTE(dangum @ Nov 25 2016, 5:23 pm) *

There were 3 extra tracks that were mentioned around the release of Alive. They were "A New World", "Eat Your Love" and "Sweet Surrender". The first two were made available (via a bonus vinyl and direct downloads from Ed's store), but Sweet Surrender never surfaced.


I was able to buy "Eat Your Love" and "A New World" (by the way, I want to clarify that I attempt to purchase everything I can, it's only the foreign bonus tracks I usually can't get ahold of.) "Sweet Surrender" shows on the Benelux edition of "Alive" on discogs.

https://www.discogs.com/Ed-Kowalczyk-Alive/release/5172578
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post Nov 27 2016, 5:22 pm
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QUOTE(jasonhensley35 @ Nov 25 2016, 2:41 pm) *
Ed Kowalski:
Who's that?
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post Nov 27 2016, 9:00 pm
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QUOTE(throwing_cheetahs @ Nov 27 2016, 2:22 pm) *

Who's that?

Oh that's the new lead singer of Live, didn't you hear? He's just like the old one, just spells his name differently... hehe.gif
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post Nov 28 2016, 6:09 am
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QUOTE(jasonhensley35 @ Nov 25 2016, 7:41 pm) *

Alright, one last test you you LIVE nuts...

Ed Kowalski: Sweet Surrender (off the Alive album, it's a bonus track from Europe)


Pretty sure this has never turned up anywhere and may have been a printing error or something.

Dan or Nick would know better than me though.

EDIT: Ah, I see it's already discussed above. My bad. Dunno how I missed that. Carry on...

EDIT Mk2: Just checked out songs registered to Ed on BMI.com and Sweet Surrender DOES appear there. Which means it is actually a real track. Maybe left off Alive at the last minute, and then he just didn't fancy including old material by the time The Garden and TFATM came around.

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post Nov 28 2016, 4:12 pm
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QUOTE(Merica @ Nov 28 2016, 3:09 am) *

Pretty sure this has never turned up anywhere and may have been a printing error or something.

Dan or Nick would know better than me though.

EDIT: Ah, I see it's already discussed above. My bad. Dunno how I missed that. Carry on...

EDIT Mk2: Just checked out songs registered to Ed on BMI.com and Sweet Surrender DOES appear there. Which means it is actually a real track. Maybe left off Alive at the last minute, and then he just didn't fancy including old material by the time The Garden and TFATM came around.


Soooooo, it has or hasn't been released?
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post Nov 29 2016, 1:15 am
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As far as I'm aware it hasn't been released or surfaced anywhere. But it does appear to be a real thing.
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post Nov 29 2016, 8:14 pm
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Not to sound like a suck up or anything, but if you guys don't have it, then it probably doesn't exist. I mean, that one guy made a 10 album collection of the rarities and bonus tracks of Live. Those tracks are almost impossible to track down outside of this forum! Trust me... I've looked...
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post Dec 2 2016, 12:37 am
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QUOTE(jasonhensley35 @ Nov 30 2016, 9:14 am) *

Not to sound like a suck up or anything, but if you guys don't have it, then it probably doesn't exist.

Does anybody want to hit Ed up on Facebook and ask him whether "Sweet Surrender" is available for download anywhere? I'd do it myself but I don't have a FB account.
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post Dec 2 2016, 8:22 am
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QUOTE(dangum @ Dec 1 2016, 9:37 pm) *

Does anybody want to hit Ed up on Facebook and ask him whether "Sweet Surrender" is available for download anywhere? I'd do it myself but I don't have a FB account.

You guys can talk to him on Facebook?
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post Dec 2 2016, 8:41 am
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Yep. Chad Taylor, Chad Gracey and Ed all have been known to reply to messages.
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post Dec 2 2016, 5:16 pm
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QUOTE(dangum @ Dec 2 2016, 5:41 am) *

Yep. Chad Taylor, Chad Gracey and Ed all have been known to reply to messages.

That's pretty awesome of them! Although at this point, I imagine their fan base isn't too big to be overwhelming, giving them that chance. I would be interested just out curiosity to see if Sweet Surrender is out there.
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Looking for the radio edit of Lightning Crashes where the placenta verse is censored.

"On some radio shows, the entire verse about the new mother’s “placenta [falling] to the floor” got cut out."

http://diffuser.fm/90s-songs-radio-bleeped/
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post Dec 11 2016, 10:47 pm
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I was able to buy "Eat Your Love" and "A New World" (by the way, I want to clarify that I attempt to purchase everything I can, it's only the foreign bonus tracks I usually can't get ahold of.) "Sweet Surrender" shows on the Benelux edition of "Alive" on discogs.

https://www.discogs.com/Ed-Kowalczyk-Alive/release/5172578


I messaged the people who had the benelux release and they say it is a tracklist error, the song is not on that release
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post Dec 16 2016, 7:12 am
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QUOTE(LiveForNow @ Dec 4 2016, 6:15 am) *

"On some radio shows, the entire verse about the new mother’s “placenta [falling] to the floor” got cut out."

I've heard this version of Lightning Crashes on Australian radio over the years. I think another reason why the verse was dropped was due to the length of the track. At 5:27 it's a bit too long for radio so sometimes they play the shortened version.

Anyway, here is a link to the edited version of the track:
https://www.mediafire.com/?i1lemn2qnx692c6

It is also available on the 10 CD Rarities collection:
+Live+ The Complete B-Sides & Rarities Collection


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