Ed never stole from his bandmates, according to a source close to the band Options

[alexou]

They don't owe us anything??....OK, I can accept that, but go read Taylor's blog. The band was in trouble for soooo long.

How much money did they get from touring in the 2000's when they were not even able to talk to each other? I paid 5 times big price to see them, even as an opener for Nickelback, for fu...'s sake. We must like them a lot in some way, but true they don't owe us anything.

Live with Shinn looked real, raw. Some of us will have doubt seeing them in concert together again. Telling the truth would help change perceptions. But instead we get some preacher's kind of words.

And I'm open for a good 3.0 Live, if Ed settles and write good songs, I will listen. People can forgive and get back together, ok with this too.

But explain the real thing, no hypocrisy, there was blood, it was bad. Wasn't only a BIG misunderstanding. Ed wanted too much money? Say it. CCP were lazy and were just letting him do his things? Say it. No bullshit, be real!

This post has been edited by alexou: Dec 8 2016, 10:03 am

[gerrycan70]

Must say it's quite comical reading, some of you simply can't let go! I've been reading these boards for years. It's the same few who act like childish 10yr olds in a playground!!

It takes balls for humans to admit: they got it wrong; made a mistake; fell on their sword.

Live fans deserve NOTHING, ZILCH of an explanation of events from 7 years ago. That's all yesterday's news. It's simply none of our business, it's ECCP's business. Get over it; get over throwing mud at people 7 years on, continuing to be a sh*t stirer! Get over taking sides on the whole Ed vs CCP thing. Stop being negative / critical about the reunion of Ed with CCP.

What people should be doing is offering an olive branch out to others they've thrown mud at; trash talked; villified; bad mouthed and just simply say: Hey you know what, I'm sorry dude!

There's not enough FORGIVENESS in the universe! Life on this planet is way too short!! For those who want to live in the vacuum of yesterday's news, I truly feel sorry for you.

How about let's be grateful for this thing called life. Try to live each day in peace and harmony, because tomorrow could be your last.

Be POSITIVE about the future of Live and no longer be judgemental towards any band member or fan.

[Merica]

Live fans deserve NOTHING, ZILCH of an explanation of events from 7 years ago. That's all yesterday's news. It's simply none of our business, it's ECCP's business. Get over it

Clearly absolutely is our business. The fans are a giant stakeholder in the band, and they've made all this quite public over the years and been happy to stoke the fire when it suited them. So yeah, zilch of an explanation? Rubbish.

Have to say, seeing lots of talk about love and forgiveness and don't judge or be critical and embrace it with positivity etc etc. Some of it seems genuine, some of it seems like you're just trying to please Chad Taylor by posting like you're doing one of his CyberDusts.

And it should go without saying that avoiding being critical is a nonstarter. I'm neither a robot nor an idiot, so if or when there's something to be critical about I'm gonna try to be as much of a straight shooter as Le Thrill's saying he is.

[World Dreamer]

I am NOT a company man. I AM THE COMPANY! I'm the straw that stirs the drink, and your someone that has zero knowledge of what they are talking about. I have no problem with Nick, however I don't need to invite him to a party because you said so.

False. The Pokey is quite informed.

[World Dreamer]

If it's a fact that Ed never stole anything then that only strengthens my argument that CCP offer the fans some kind of explanation at some point. As I've said before (on FB if not here), to offer nothing would be insulting to the fans and completely ridiculous. Hopefully this countdown leads to a relaunch of the site with a message/explanation reintroducing Ed, and maybe a new song at the same time. Or the countdown turns into an embedded YouTube video of New City...

Think of all that's been done, all the things Chad has said. All time that's gone by - and now oh hey it turns out Ed never actually stole anything at all? You'll have to forgive me for finding that a little fishy. And hey Bill, hey man. Genuine question: if Ed never stole anything, does that mean CCP's original lawsuit was malicious just like he said?

Above all else, I just want the the guys to return to the FaceCulture guy for another interview. That would be a fucking belter. "So Chad, you said when Ed controlled the band it all went - and I quote - full retard. What do you say now?"

At this point Ed buts in - "Told y'all I never did anything dishonest! EK IN THE HOUSE, whaaaaat."

This made me smile. I rarely smile.

[World Dreamer]

Exactly. I'm not privy to anything. What the heck do I know.
What I do know is this. Make your past...,your PAST! Live for the future.

Holy shit! Did you just accidentally post the new album title?!?!

This post has been edited by World Dreamer: Dec 8 2016, 10:32 am

[Unsheathed]

Clearly absolutely is our business. The fans are a giant stakeholder in the band, and they've made all this quite public over the years and been happy to stoke the fire when it suited them. So yeah, zilch of an explanation? Rubbish.

Have to say, seeing lots of talk about love and forgiveness and don't judge or be critical and embrace it with positivity etc etc. Some of it seems genuine, some of it seems like you're just trying to please Chad Taylor by posting like you're doing one of his CyberDusts.

And it should go without saying that avoiding being critical is a nonstarter. I'm neither a robot nor an idiot, so if or when there's something to be critical about I'm gonna try to be as much of a straight shooter as Le Thrill's saying he is.

That's where my mind is at right now. CCP actually wanted it to be everyone's business. They wanted it public; they wanted it to use it as creative fuel.

I don't deserve shit. I don't deserve an explanation. I don't deserve an apology. And I don't really want any of those things. I'm not entitled to those things, even though CCP so desperately wanted fans to feel entitled to them.

I want some new music that doesn't completely suck. I can't take another SFBM.

[World Dreamer]

I guess a lot of Live fans care about why Live broke up, and the details remain a mystery to this very day.

Yep. I guess there's still a question here, in the present, which matters to us, and we happen to care.

Sadly, Live is notorious for not informing its fans of anything. Somehow CT manages to have 7,000 different social media accounts and manages to tell fans nothing.

[vivapokey]

This made me smile. I rarely smile.

You smiling made me smile. You rarely smile.

[World Dreamer]

I have never made a single dime with music.
I apologized to the people that matter.
No sense in bringing up the past. It doesn't matter.
Everyone said shitty things to everyone during that time.
Adults learn how to forgive and move on.
Shit bags like you think your entitled to something that your not.

I hope you aren't in charge of the PR department.

You do realize that you are smashing many Live fans that have been supporting the band for decades despite all the drama. These are fans who really just want some answers and all they get in return is the "you aren't entitled to anything" line.

It really is a slap in the face to the very fans who, when Live split, took it upon themselves to create a new forum, FB fan page, Twitter account, YouTube account etc...

But now we are shit bags. Good on you, bro!

Maybe we don't "deserve" anything but a "hey, cool, thanks for always supporting us." would probably go a long ways. It would go much further than "shit bag".

[Voodoo Lady]

Must say it's quite comical reading, some of you simply can't let go! I've been reading these boards for years. It's the same few who act like childish 10yr olds in a playground!!

It takes balls for humans to admit: they got it wrong; made a mistake; fell on their sword.

Live fans deserve NOTHING, ZILCH of an explanation of events from 7 years ago. That's all yesterday's news. It's simply none of our business, it's ECCP's business. Get over it; get over throwing mud at people 7 years on, continuing to be a sh*t stirer! Get over taking sides on the whole Ed vs CCP thing. Stop being negative / critical about the reunion of Ed with CCP.

What people should be doing is offering an olive branch out to others they've thrown mud at; trash talked; villified; bad mouthed and just simply say: Hey you know what, I'm sorry dude!

There's not enough FORGIVENESS in the universe! Life on this planet is way too short!! For those who want to live in the vacuum of yesterday's news, I truly feel sorry for you.

How about let's be grateful for this thing called life. Try to live each day in peace and harmony, because tomorrow could be your last.

Be POSITIVE about the future of Live and no longer be judgemental towards any band member or fan.

Best post I've read in here in a while and you saved me the time & effort posting something similar (although your way of expressing it is better than mine would have ever been).

[World Dreamer]

Songs aren't past, they aren't future. They are timeless works of art that are always present.
You moderate this shitty board with the negative shitty people you allow to post shit and I'll moderate how none of you assholes will
Be allowed into ANYTHING ever again.
People like you aren't needed. It's negative, cancerous energy.

Again, I hope you aren't in charge of the PR department.

Also, does the above quote mean the band will play songs off The Turn?

[+Ed+]

The funniest thing would be that it all went downhill and everyone got the wrong information.

Ed never stole anything.

The band wanted people to talk about Live when it all went downhill anyway.

FaceCulture does not confirm anything. Ed was surprised to hear those questions because he had never fucked anything up and started calling the musicians "individuals" because during the interview he suddenly understood that it had been THEM who had stabbed him in the back!

Remember in 2009? Ed said that we were to receive two albums: Live and Ed solo. He only wanted to have an outlet, a solo pop-carreer with songs about the Lord and wanted to save some angst for Live. He composed gazillions of perfect tunes, but the musicians took them all and made a TGF record without him! Ha!

And now the musicians decide to make up for it all and without saying anything simply bring Ed back for hype to re-build and get back to where it all ended - back at 2009, fresh start, new beginning, etc etc.

Ed was always great. Musicians only wanted to fuck him up!



Now that would be some funny shit.

This post has been edited by +Ed+: Dec 8 2016, 10:48 am

[+Ed+]

To make things perfectly clear, I hardly give a damn about all the details. I am very glad that the guys really sorted their misunderstandings out (if they really did) and I am really cautiously waiting for the news to appear.

I only want a simple statement about Chris. I really really want it very much. Be it whatever. The magnificent story with him not fronting, but being ONE of the band can NOT end with a silent substitution anyway.


My 2c

[World Dreamer]

Also, who is this "source close to the band"?

I bet it is Ed or CT.